Attacked and Left for Dead at a Dominican Republic All-Inclusive Resort

[KyleMackey]

Violence in Mexico (Playa del Carmen) has significantly curtailed tourism there. And Mazatlan and Puerto Vallarta have become ghost destinations, now only for the uninformed and rich drug dealers on holiday. They were once bustling posh hotel beach resorts frequented by the Hollywood crowd and spring break college trips. A handful of incidents can certainly kill an tourism economy.

Imagine the if what happened in Mazatlan with the murders and decapitation of a few people happened in Punta Cana....this country would go into flat-line status

Don't foresee anything like that happening in PC/DR. Acapulco is a good case study for a ghost town former resort.

 

[AlterEgo]

I used to work close to this field; don't want to go into details on where I worked and exactly what I did, but when it came to a rape, there was no DNA testing, rape kits or getting samples of scraps under the nails of the victim. The procedure was like this: Medico legista examined the person and determined if there was penetration, if it was recent or not, and if there was violence involved like bruises, cuts, etc. That was pretty much it. Then there was the "he said-She said" part. As far as I know, not much advance has been made in the forensic part ever since.

Very sad situation, but I can’t say I’m surprised. A few years ago, a poster on the north coast had some shirts made that said “Remember where you are” (or something similar).

 

[flyinroom]

How about this for a plausible theory of the case.

Both Mr. and Mrs. had too much too drink that night. (very common with visitors to A.I. on their first night of revelry.)
Mr. was not happy about how or with whom the Mrs. danced the evening away nor was he happy about her mysterious late night decision to go outside and wander about on her own.
He was suspicious.
She came back and an argument broke out.
He smacked her around a little, not too much, so as not to leave any obvious marks.
But it hurt.
At some point the Mrs. took the decision that it was time for..."fight or flight".
She chose flight.
She grabbed her bag and ran for it.
Not knowing her surroundings, being frightened and three sheets to the wind, her panic levels were off the charts.
All she knew was that she wanted a dark corner somewhere, where she'd be safe from the Mr. until he'd had a chance to calm down.
Rounding a corner or going down some stairs or at some other point she slipped, lost control and fell headfirst into an immovable object.
Hurt, dazed and frightened...
She crawled into the aforementioned damp watery crawl space and passed out.

to be cont'd.

 

[Fulano2]

I just don't get the sense of this kind of posts. Help me out.

 

[Big]

I just don't get the sense of this kind of posts. Help me out.

anything is more plausible than what she reported

 

[drstock]

44 pages...... it's a beach day .......i need to give all of you folks hugs and tell you it's not your fault

You've been a pretty major contributor!

 

[Big]

Punta Cana is a AI destination that caters to the drink- food- beach, pass out and repeat crowd. Their main concern is budget. Their culinary intellect is the more food the better. This will not affect them much, as price is their #1 destination.

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

"...you don't know what the police did or didn't do."

Yeah we do - very little.

There is no CSI here in the DR. No training on the proper collection of evidence, no collection tools/kits and no ability to deliver collected evidence to an accredited testing facility in any sort of timely manner. Chain of custody is an as yet an unheard of concept.

It is not yet a priority to fund expensive laboratories full of expensive equipment, costly consumables and well paid professionals. Advanced scientific inquiries are outsourced - to the CDC for anything related with disease, to the FDA for anything related to agriculture and pests and to the FBI for guidance on anything criminal in nature that the govt here feels the need to solve that outweighs the embarrassment of admitting they can't do it themselves - which isn't often.

The DR is a good forty years of advancement behind the current state of criminal investigations elsewhere. What happened at the Salem Witch Trials is what currently happens here. An accusation is made, a confession is extorted and someone sends the accused away or not. About the only investigative practice that is possible here are fingerprints but even that rudimentary procedure requires sampling kits and supplies that are not routinely available to the on scene police.

Most pathology reports are suspect and incomplete because of no equipment, poor sampling and storage, scant laboratory testing and a need to keep things moving as there is not sufficient storage space but for a day or two in most cases.

When it comes to tourists who are victims of crime, it is assumed that the victim will leave the island at the first possible opportunity and be very reluctant to return later to testify or offer evidence. A typical crime scene is a charlie foxtrot of police milling about looking in the bushes or pointing out blood drops to others. The investigators can usually be picked out of the crowd as they are the ones in the plaid shirts and bluejeans.

The DR does not have the means to consistently deliver justice to citizens and visitors. From the beat cop to the judges the system is broken, corrupt and rife with political interference. Try as anyone might, it just isn't possible to put together a criminal case that Perry Mason would accept. It is clear that the police know what they should be doing in these cases but with no resources and no support from the system or the politicos to embrace forensic science and make it possible to collect, analyze and store evidence, things will not change here anytime soon.

If you are a tourist and victim of a serious or violent crime and manage to survive, leave as quickly as you can, the insult to injury only gets worse from there.

 

[flyinroom]

I just don't get the sense of this kind of posts. Help me out.

We're lap top cops.
It's what we do.

(thanks to the dr1'er who earlier in the thread used that phrase. I don't know if it originated with him or not but....I like it.)

Ok, found it.
Post #252
Page 26
RDKNIGHT

 

[the gorgon]

I just don't get the sense of this kind of posts. Help me out.

so let us hear your theory. you are one of the guys who is quick to criticize the theories of others, but offer nothing yourself, least of all some semblance of an apology when others prove to be right.

 

[Caonabo]

deleted by poster.

 

[Caonabo]

How about this for a plausible theory of the case.

Both Mr. and Mrs. had too much too drink that night. (very common with visitors to A.I. on their first night of revelry.)
Mr. was not happy about how or with whom the Mrs. danced the evening away nor was he happy about her mysterious late night decision to go outside and wander about on her own.
He was suspicious.
She came back and an argument broke out.
He smacked her around a little, not too much, so as not to leave any obvious marks.
But it hurt.
At some point the Mrs. took the decision that it was time for..."fight or flight".
She chose flight.
She grabbed her bag and ran for it.
Not knowing her surroundings, being frightened and three sheets to the wind, her panic levels were off the charts.
All she knew was that she wanted a dark corner somewhere, where she'd be safe from the Mr. until he'd had a chance to calm down.
Rounding a corner or going down some stairs or at some other point she slipped, lost control and fell headfirst into an immovable object.
Hurt, dazed and frightened...
She crawled into the aforementioned damp watery crawl space and passed out.

to be cont'd.

This is the route I, myself have been leaning towards from the very beginning. For those that do not believe this is plausible, you have not spent enough time on resorts. Now, I am not saying you may not have time/experience in Punta Cana, nor RD, but rather constant resort experiences. These types of scenarios occur every day. A victim savagely beaten, no. Couples and family members drinking too much free alcohol, and violent episodes occurring, yes. I do not say "play out", but because it is most definitely not a game. There are real life stakes involved. This victim is a victim, and that is not in denial. It is just my concrete belief that poster flyinroom's scenario is more likely the real truth, rather than the truth presented by the victim four months after the event occurred.

 

[the gorgon]

deleted by poster.

i am with you on this. my childhood friend started the hotel Negril Beach Village, which became Hedonism2. i used to stay there whenever i was in that part of the world, and if some of you guys had seen what i have seen happen there, you would not be skeptical of a scenario which depicts an inebriated woman going too far with a local guy, and an equally inebriated hubby handing her a lashing.

 

[Caonabo]

i am with you on this. my childhood friend started the hotel Negril Beach Village, which became Hedonism2. i used to stay there whenever i was in that part of the world, and if some of you guys had seen what i have seen happen there, you would not be skeptical of a scenario which depicts an inebriated woman going too far with a local guy, and an equally inebriated hubby handing her a lashing.

And with enough experience with AI's, I am sure you aware this scenario plays out vice versa as well.

 

[RDKNIGHT]

48 pages a counting......we should get James comey on the case he needs a job now..

 

[cobraboy]

Well probably those imputados just couldn't pay the get out of jail fee to the authorities...if you get my drift.....Yah maybe I'm jaded.....but I don't think so......

Actually, the cops would not let the two perps out of jail until we dropped the charges.

In the other case, the burglary, almost a year later a detective came by the house to inform us they knew who did it and that the perp was found "apparently dead." Wink, wink. If a known ladrone cannot be proven guilty, seems justice is administered anyway.

 

[Fulano2]

i am with you on this. my childhood friend started the hotel Negril Beach Village, which became Hedonism2. i used to stay there whenever i was in that part of the world, and if some of you guys had seen what i have seen happen there, you would not be skeptical of a scenario which depicts an inebriated woman going too far with a local guy, and an equally inebriated hubby handing her a lashing.

So you saw a lot of beatings in your life didn't you?

 

[cobraboy]

This is the route I, myself have been leaning towards from the very beginning. For those that do not believe this is plausible, you have not spent enough time on resorts. Now, I am not saying you may not have time/experience in Punta Cana, nor RD, but rather constant resort experiences. These types of scenarios occur every day. A victim savagely beaten, no. Couples and family members drinking too much free alcohol, and violent episodes occurring, yes. I do not say "play out", but because it is most definitely not a game. There are real life stakes involved. This victim is a victim, and that is not in denial. It is just my concrete belief that poster flyinroom's scenario is more likely the real truth, rather than the truth presented by the victim four months after the event occurred.

fly's scenario is interesting, but those injuries are not consistent with a fall down the stairs, even head first.

 

[monfongo]

She forgot to bring him back a hamburger so he beat the living shyte out of her.

 

[jimmythegreek]

She forgot to bring him back a hamburger so he beat the living shyte out of her.

Heck anything is possible here right now.....people are hungry...money is becoming tighter by the day. LOL.