The future of Sosua

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Timotero

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how many?

O’pppps, I forgot to post the answer.

My first visit to Sosua was in 2004. Now 15 years later as I walked the length of Pedro Clisante from the closed High Caribbean to the beach entrance past the (closed, burned out, and now garishly painted) LaRoca. I counted the number of businesses that are still operating in the same location, and under the same name. (I’m guessing some have changed ownership?).

And the total number was sixteen (16).

That included all types of businesses small (such as the fruit stall) and large (Banco Progresso). From entertainment venues (Classicos/Merengue bar) to recreational (North Coast Diving) to restaurants (Cafe Cubano).

Frankly I was surprised the number was that large.
 
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You should have went to the meeting. I think you would have gotten a better understanding for how middle class doms think. Not to mention some water front land owners.

You're misinterpreting their inconsistent efforts (boarding up windows, chasing chicas, closing bars, etc) and lackadaisical planning as failure to change Pedro Clisante. There has been no huge rush to change PC. But the day is coming. It will be dictated by tourism numbers and construction schedules. Then things will happen fairly fast.

Meanwhile, enjoy the spandex.

as stated, have been hearing these same predictions for 15 years
 
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there will peace in the middle east before Sosua has any significant changes
 
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jd426

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He left the DR months ago. I doubt he came back for more punishment.

He had his time in the Sun, so to speak . At least he was smart enough to know when to finally quit .
That disco on the new end of Town ( HC) ... I Cant wait to see how this turns out for them ( the new owners) .
 
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ctrob

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Mono meaning monkey, what would monkeys do with a train?

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ogunjobi123

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I observed the future of Sosua last night. A delicious dinner @ Margot and then an after dinner drink on Pedro C which had more chicas in the bars and on the street than one could count.

Cant wait till march gets here, any decent looking ones or are they really as bad as people say here?
 
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cavok

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He had his time in the Sun, so to speak . At least he was smart enough to know when to finally quit .
That disco on the new end of Town ( HC) ... I Cant wait to see how this turns out for them ( the new owners) .

Did you go there when it re-opened briefly about 2 years ago? He did a fantastic job. It's gotta be the nicest and best designed club in Sosua. Largest, too. Very classy.

It was a great club back in the late 90's and early 2000's. Always packed when I was there. Much better than any club on the west end of PC IMO.
 
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Ecoman1949

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Cultural, political, and social changes in the DR evolve in their own way and time. Don’t expect Sosua to change overnight or in ways that are immediately noticeable. I was in Sosua several times last week. Walked PC, had a few cold ones at Plan B, sat back and observed the street action. Very quiet compared to last Winter but the same things are going on, just more low key. The government should be focused on the effects of the past Springs negative publicity on the tourist trade. If it continues, it will affect all tourism areas including Sosua. If legitimate tourism business declines in Sosua, illegitimate businesses like the sex trade will increase to fill the gaps. When the resort closed in Luperon, the town was hit hard economically and there was an increase in the level of prostitution years ago. The town has stabilized and is now chugging along at a different economic rate. It adapted to the times. Sosua will do the same. Just don’t expect massive change on mañana time. The current paving fiasco in Sosua is an example of what I am talking about.
 
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Meeting on the future of Sosúa
Wednesday afternoon, 16 October, around 4 thirty, a meeting was held in the amphitheater of the Casa Marina hotel by the city council on the future developments in Sosúa. All entrepreneurs and representatives of interest in Sosúa were invited to this meeting. The meeting was opened by a speech and prayer by pastor Luis Alberto Reynoso. Andrés Pastoriza, coordinator of the Economic and Social Council of the municipality of Sosúa (CESMS), spoke about the need to implement changes to make family tourism possible again. The speeches by Colonel Ignacio Peña Grullón of the tourist police and Ms. Jakaira Cid, regional director of the Ministry of Tourism, underlined that the intended changes in Sosúa are also supported by the central government. Subsequently, Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosúa explained what these changes entail. She said the Pedro Clisante is the entrance to the beach resort. The 'face of Sosúa' and apparently now that is the red light nightlife. A large part of the population of Sosúa is ashamed of this. They want Sosúa to be a beautiful seaside resort where families can enjoy the beach and good restaurants. 18 months ago the mayor told all the owners of the bars and discos in this part of the Pedro Clisante that they should choose.

Either they change their business to a restaurant or a shop or they have to close and they can then move to the end of the Pedro Clisante near the High Caribbean disco. That will become the new red light tolerance zone. Only one entrepreneur has responded to this call and is currently setting up a catering facility at that location. The mayor also stated with certainty that she is not out to harm entrepreneurs, but that she is determined to continue this intended policy. However, the mayor did not make any concrete statements about which actions are expected in the near future. Then there was the opportunity for the 200 or so attendees to ask questions. No critical questions were asked.

https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5701&article=1
 
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So you see, based upon the meeting this week about Sosua, nothing will change in Sosua....:pirate: Nothing at all, things always remain the same in the DR.

Well, maybe except for the bar only locations needing to move to the area near High Caribe or close...

Dominicans are ashamed of Sosua. Who knew? Well, I did because I read the news.
 
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Uzin

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What a joke, so 18 months ago they decided that and what happened so far, do you think 18 years is a good estimate that anything will change.... ! lol

And were would the mayor be this time next year.... ? Adioooooos.....
 
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windeguy

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What a joke, so 18 months ago they decided that and what happened so far, do you think 18 years is a good estimate that anything will change.... ! lol

And were would the mayor be this time next year.... ? Adioooooos.....

It is true that only one bar owner paid attention to what was said 18 months ago.

What happens next regarding those two very small parts of Sosua is anyone's guess, but I have my suspicions.
 
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Uzin

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Who is that bar owner who paid attention, do you know... !? As far as I can see there are just messing around, building something over there, no idea what/who, but I don't think any current bar owner in the strip is planning to move.

Maybe someone trying to get ahead of the crowd, follow the order, probably a friend of the mayor/ADSS trying to set an example, and prepare something maybe even funded by them, but is he a current owner, not sure !!!
 
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JDJones

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What a joke, so 18 months ago they decided that and what happened so far, do you think 18 years is a good estimate that anything will change.... ! lol

And were would the mayor be this time next year.... ? Adioooooos.....

I'm pretty sure Illana will still be around next year.
 
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windeguy

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What a joke, so 18 months ago they decided that and what happened so far, do you think 18 years is a good estimate that anything will change.... ! lol

And were would the mayor be this time next year.... ? Adioooooos.....

Why would the closing of a few bar only locations, considered undesirable by the local citizens, in a very small section of Sosua cause the mayor to not be re-elected?

I think it was posted who moved, but I don't recall. Maybe that was fake news. Everyone takes the risks they see fit. If you don't believe anything will happen, why bother to move until after you are closed and then just re-open somewhere else?

If she is not going for re-election, then that is certainly a moot point.

Any action to be taken regarding this small part of Sosua most likely comes at the direction of the federal government in Santo Domingo.
 
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18 October 2019
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Meeting on the future of Sosúa
Wednesday afternoon, 16 October, around 4 thirty, a meeting was held in the amphitheater of the Casa Marina hotel by the city council on the future developments in Sosúa. All entrepreneurs and representatives of interest in Sosúa were invited to this meeting. The meeting was opened by a speech and prayer by pastor Luis Alberto Reynoso. Andrés Pastoriza, coordinator of the Economic and Social Council of the municipality of Sosúa (CESMS), spoke about the need to implement changes to make family tourism possible again. The speeches by Colonel Ignacio Peña Grullón of the tourist police and Ms. Jakaira Cid, regional director of the Ministry of Tourism, underlined that the intended changes in Sosúa are also supported by the central government. Subsequently, Mayor Ilana Neumann of Sosúa explained what these changes entail. She said the Pedro Clisante is the entrance to the beach resort. The 'face of Sosúa' and apparently now that is the red light nightlife. A large part of the population of Sosúa is ashamed of this. They want Sosúa to be a beautiful seaside resort where families can enjoy the beach and good restaurants. 18 months ago the mayor told all the owners of the bars and discos in this part of the Pedro Clisante that they should choose.

Either they change their business to a restaurant or a shop or they have to close and they can then move to the end of the Pedro Clisante near the High Caribbean disco. That will become the new red light tolerance zone. Only one entrepreneur has responded to this call and is currently setting up a catering facility at that location. The mayor also stated with certainty that she is not out to harm entrepreneurs, but that she is determined to continue this intended policy. However, the mayor did not make any concrete statements about which actions are expected in the near future. Then there was the opportunity for the 200 or so attendees to ask questions. No critical questions were asked.

https://www.sosuanews.com/index.php?id=5701&article=1

Nice to see Illiana has lost some weight.
Love the "we rescue our paradise" sign.
These folks see themselves as moral rescuers?
I do not hear anyone calling "help, come rescue me."

These folks are moral evangelists offended by legal behavior in the DR.
They cannot change the laws on the national level so they go after the locals.

"A large part of the population is ashamed of this"?????? No they are not its just you guys.
How about a large part of the population is not ashamed of this?
Its a fake illogical argument. Like "many people are saying" or "lets all jump on the bandwagon, everyone is doing it".

Next its back to the old family values argument.
Bus loads of families just waiting to come to Sosua but will not until "we rescue the city".

They did not leave out the beach with all the families just waiting to "enjoy the beach".
The beach is dangerous with exposed rock formations and the city has never done one thing to improve the area.
Is there a plan to fix the beach rocks when all the families start pouring into town to enjoy the beach and restaurants?
Not long ago it was put up barriers to block the view of girls in the bars but that was not enough and here we are with plan B

The politicians add large doses of dishonesty to hide the fact that they are morally outraged and that is what this is all about.
Why not be honest and come right out and say it.
We are offended by the working girls and want to hide them out of "our"sight.
 
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