Coronavirus - In the DR

[Xavier_Onassis]

Are the closing supermarkets?

The latest I hear from Barahona is that the President ordered the markets closed.:surprised
How can they do this?

 

[etolw]

ET STAY HOME!

Any chance that this already is forbidden, and that PN can show up? I am not gonna spend time in a hospital 15 days...

 

[william webster]

No food store closures.....

 

[cavok]

Anyone have any idea how this lock-down will affect Residency and Cedula renewals?

Good question. I'm wondering the same thing. I have a renewal coming up in April.

 

[sylindr]

Amazing what you have seen. Never happened to me in 22 years

Yes, I have seen both of these things regularly especially near pay day. So It is a concern as it happens with full staff imagine the restrictions on cash with reduced staff to fill these atm's

 

[etolw]

Yes, I have seen both of these things regularly especially near pay day. So It is a concern as it happens with full staff imagine the restrictions on cash with reduced staff to fill these atm's

I have seen it many times. What I say is that it has never happened to me. Got It?

 

[Chirimoya]

Open air markets, maybe? Not supermarkets.

 

[NanSanPedro]

Have you got any idea of how the Dominican economy works? Nobody could say that hotels are non-essential.

My point is simple. There is no point of locking everything down for just 15 days. You need probably 12 weeks for this virus. And if you lock down all businesses and shut all the hotels for 12 weeks in DR then you are going to have a lot of starving people who will die because they have no food. Already people are being fired from hotels in Bavaro in large numbers, these people will have no money to live on, no chance of getting another job anytime soon. And we really are talking 10's of thousands of lives affected. By contrast nobody knows whether the virus can survive the DR climate, and there seems to be an absence of any statistical modelling on what its impact will be.

What about the remaining guests? They can't kick them out, can they? If so, where would they go?

 

[NanSanPedro]

Open air markets, maybe? Not supermarkets.

I would also assume they won't shut down colmados. But that's my speculation only.

 

[bienamor]

asked my colmado if they are open tomorrow and they indicated yes. maybe colmados are what was referenced as food shops in DR1 News

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

I'm waiting for an appointment to go get photographed and pickup the new cards and seem to have been placed into a holding pattern for the last three weeks by DGM.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Unsubstantiated Rumor Alert:

I have heard that a significant property here on the North Coast is closing as of Sunday and guests have been asked to leave. I haven't been able to confirm this but I'll know on Sunday when friends are scheduled to leave. If true will they kick people out onto the street, maybe not right away but in short order as more and more services are shut down and deliveries stopped.

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Commados not ordered to close.

 

[windeguy]

I have a question. People avoid contact, either by government edict or personal decision for 15 or 30 or 60 days.

Then after the shut down period, they act normally again.

The shutdown slows the spread, but a few people still have the virus, which I suspect is very likely.

Those few people that have the virus then come into contact with those who are now acting normally again. The virus starts to spread again. What happens next?

Shut down again for 15 or more days in a rinse and repeat manner?

 

[cobraboy]

I have a question. People avoid contact, either by government edict or personal decision for 15 or 30 or 60 days.

Then after the shut down period, they act normally again.

The shutdown slows the spread, but a few people still have the virus, which I suspect is very likely.

Those few people that have the virus then come into contact with those who are now acting normally again. The virus starts to spread again. What happens next?

Shut down again for 15 or more days in a rinse and repeat manner?

I understand the 15 days is the window where a person will develop symptoms and make detection more easily identifiable. If you don't have symptoms after 15 days, you most likely are not a carrier. I have not heard of a benign infectious carrier.

 

[caribmike]

https://hoy.com.do/salud-publica-re...-fallecido-y-un-caso-de-contagio-comunitario/

Total 34 now.

13 new cases, one more dead. 1 of the 13 new ones through community spread.

 

[etolw]

Swim home?

Good question there!

 

[cobraboy]

Cobra, that's all there is are benign infectious carriers! C'mon man!

Asymptomatic carriers, no symptoms but infecting everybody they go near.

THAT IS THE SOLE REASON THIS VIRUS IS SO FRIGGIN DEADLY.

That is the reason everything need to be locked down now.

It's like a 2 week locust infestation. No locusts then all of a sudden, millions of locusts.

These asymptomatic people are incubating the virus. Totally benign, zero symptoms!

So people who will NEVER have a symptom transmit the virus?

And the virus lives in them indefinitely?

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Commercial flights over at 9am tomorrow morning. No more in or out.

We have to be careful here as the details are confusing and subject to change. As I understand the current situation:

Airlines can decide to stop or limit operations whenever they wish.

Flights that arrive empty for the purpose of repatriating foreigners already in the DR may continue to arrive and perform that function after the borders close at 6am tomorrow.

The DR is not forcing people to stay here against their will. The logistics of leaving is complicated only if airlines and travel charters don't come to pick up their clients.

It is not possible to call an airline and buy a ticket to either come to the DR or leave the DR as no more regularly scheduled flights are set to arrive or depart after the border is closed. Special flights to repatriate foreigners already here may continue to operate for that purpose until all of the foreigners are gone or the airlines give up the effort and pack it in until they resume normal flight operations.

We're on an island so that presents a challenge in coming and going as most people are dependent on a 3rd party to get here. If a citizen or legal resident presents themselves at the border for entry, legally they have to be allowed to enter the country. If such n individual is deemed to be ill, they may be isolated but they can't be turned away.

So, repatriation flights will continue after the borders close tomorrow. How many flights there will be, for how long those flights will be available and where those flights are going is entirely up to the travel companies, the airlines themselves or the govt that is chartering aircraft to collect stranded travelers.

 

[malko]

I have a question. People avoid contact, either by government edict or personal decision for 15 or 30 or 60 days.

Then after the shut down period, they act normally again.

The shutdown slows the spread, but a few people still have the virus, which I suspect is very likely.

Those few people that have the virus then come into contact with those who are now acting normally again. The virus starts to spread again. What happens next?

Shut down again for 15 or more days in a rinse and repeat manner?

As I understand, the plan is to avoid overwhelming the health system. Apparently the US/EU do not have the capacity to treat covid19 infected and in need AND run everyday operations.
It would kind of su.ck if people started dying of minor stuff, like infections or whatnot, because the hospitals are overflowing.

Lets not forget that for the vast majority of us, covid19 is just a bad moment---- if even that------- BUT if we want to protect the weak, the old, the immuno deficient, etc we need to avoid the fast spread of this virus.
As time goes by, not only will we understand better and hence have better "weapons" to fight it, but our health systems will also have reorganised to attend the sick. Also the most at risk will already been through the hospital systems and back home again------ or not :/.

Personally I would have chosen the herd immunity way, and let the cards fall how they may......
But there again i am not in a " at risk" category, so kind of a selfish choice