Next minister of Interior & Police says government will apply the law

[MikeFisher]

It would be so much easier for the government to issue a six month visa. Money could be easily collected as cash when leaving at the overstay desk is much harder to track. A six month tourist Visa in my opinion would create a good revenue source for the govt

yes, a snow bird visa is what is missing in all the DR immigrations paperwork.
but then also, the ones who overstay those 6 months, as there are many who overstay for years and decades, should not have any desk to pay overstyay fines anywhere.
overstaying such long period then is simply the point where the Illegal has to be kicked out with closed doors for any return.

 

[william webster]

I say the 6 mo 'SnowBird' should be sold and issued prior to travel ...
in the traveler's home country......

Present it at departure .... no pay then - prepay only

That might flush out the chronic overstayers....
Certainly will satisfy the SnowBirds

 

[aarhus]

I don't know where you live but if they started deporting overstaying foreigners all those condos in piantini and naco would be empty. Hell most are only half full now. But that's another topic.

I lived in Santo Domingo in Bella Vista until recently but just relocated to Las Terrenas. Both in Santo Domingo and Las Terrenas I know very resourceful people who come and go and are like snowbirds.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

I lived in Santo Domingo in Bella Vista until recently but just relocated to Las Terrenas. Both in Santo Domingo and Las Terrenas I know very resourceful people who come and go and are like snowbirds.

Is "resourceful" code speak for wanted by Interpol?

 

[aarhus]

They need to figure out what to do about snowbirds. Most i know will not go through the residency process. There are many other warm places ready to accept snowbirds. The DR and the people will lose money.

Some people have different countries they “snowbird” to. Should they then have residency each place.

 

[aarhus]

Is "resourceful" code speak for wanted by Interpol?

No I dont know people like that. I mean people who travel back and forth between typically NA and the DR. I have never met those types that are referred to here who stay for years without leaving. Sorry to disappoint you. You have a certain mean streak I have noticed.

 

[GusFring]

The visa solution

Please explain what the visa solution is. Gracias.

 

[aarhus]

Well I am not going to comment more on the subject nor on dr1. I merely was making the point that a visitor who comes and leaves and pays overstay fees can’t be considered to be illegal. I am allowed to my opinion and to not agree with Dominican lawyers who claim the opposite. If immigration does nothing about it and accepts it then it must be legal. Strange legal system or lack of legal system. If someone stays for years and does not apply for legal residency I would think that is different and I don’t understand what the motivation is behind that.

 

[windeguy]

Abinader, I'm sure will address how to draw and KEEP tourists. After all, that would be a win win for him now, and after he leaves office. I can't see any downside for him to do it and do it right.

Tourists don't stay for 6 months or years.

 

[windeguy]

Well I am not going to comment more on the subject nor on dr1. I merely was making the point that a visitor who comes and leaves and pays overstay fees can’t be considered to be illegal. I am allowed to my opinion and to not agree with Dominican lawyers who claim the opposite. If immigration does nothing about it and accepts it then it must be legal. Strange legal system or lack of legal system. If someone stays for years and does not apply for legal residency I would think that is different and I don’t understand what the motivation is behind that.

It is not legal. Can you not read?

 

[windeguy]

He is adressing the settlement of people(s) into the DR be they Haitian or otherwise but most assuredly Haitian.

Your basic no illegal Haitian migration policy. Rinse. Repeat.

They deport Haitians all the time.

Can't non-residents go to the migration office and renew their visa there before it expires? That way they would be legal. It's not wrong for DR to want to know who is residing in or visiting their country. Some people have told me in the past that this is what they do to be here legally.

You can get another 30 days of legal time on top of a tourist card by taking a medical test, proving your net worth and more, all done in Santo Domingo. Very few people would do that from the north coast.

 

[windeguy]

This " not understanding" is a common tread that runs thru you and argument concerning the interpretation. That is certainly your privilege. Since you are now a citizen of the DR I'm sure you have your new country's health and welfare being held close to your heart. I admire that as well. Along with being a citizen is the responsibility that you try to uphold the law of the land. Go for it Popi and I hope you make a difference in clearing up the fine points of the law.
You're doing good and I await news on any new developments concerning this issue. I'm just a tourist. . but interested

The fact, and it is a fact, that people who enter on a tourist card are illegal aliens after 30 days, is what people simply don't want to understand. There is nothing in the laws that is subject to interpretation. There seems to be nothing that will prove this to them. Not reading the DR law and not reading what DR1's own lawyer says about anyone after 30 days being illegal. They make up some story in their mind that if they can pay a fee when they leave that it must have been legal. Bright? They are not.

 

[windeguy]

Some people have different countries they “snowbird” to. Should they then have residency each place.

That depends purely upon what each country allows. This is about the DR, not about other countries.

 

[windeguy]

No I dont know people like that. I mean people who travel back and forth between typically NA and the DR. I have never met those types that are referred to here who stay for years without leaving. Sorry to disappoint you. You have a certain mean streak I have noticed.

You must have missed a point that the PLD , for the past 16 years they were in power, put in an exit fee system for overstayers that has no basis in DR law. Many have missed that point. Because someone faces no repercussions has zero to do with something being legal. People get away with illegal actions all of the time.

 

[NanSanPedro]

The fact, and it is a fact, that people who enter on a tourist card are illegal aliens after 30 days, is what people simply don't want to understand. There is nothing in the laws that is subject to interpretation. There seems to be nothing that will prove this to them. Not reading the DR law and not reading what DR1's own lawyer says about anyone after 30 days being illegal. They make up some story in their mind that if they can pay a fee when they leave that it must have been legal. Bright? They are not.

Not true, winde. I know I'm illegal and accept that. It's their country. If they want to kick me out they can and I can't do squat (ok, maybe $10k pesos) about it. They accept $ when I leave and allow me to return, at least up to this past January.

 

[windeguy]

Not true, winde. I know I'm illegal and accept that. It's their country. If they want to kick me out they can and I can't do squat (ok, maybe $10k pesos) about it. They accept $ when I leave and allow me to return, at least up to this past January.

You understand the situation. You understand the risks. You are then, not one of the people I referred to about not realizing what is legal.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Not true, winde. I know I'm illegal and accept that. It's their country. If they want to kick me out they can and I can't do squat (ok, maybe $10k pesos) about it. They accept $ when I leave and allow me to return, at least up to this past January.

Just go legalize. It's ok, no one's gonna deport you. Take 500 bucks and invest in your well being. And your kid's well being. If you need help please PM

 

[johne]

You understand the situation. You understand the risks. You are then, not one of the people I referred to about not realizing what is legal.

Mombo jumbo. Windy you were doing fineIMHO defending YOUR position. ((although I don't agree) Now you are taking the "I' m a little bit pregnant" stance.

 

[slowmo]

You understand the situation. You understand the risks. You are then, not one of the people I referred to about not realizing what is legal.

Risks? A fine? A stern talking to? I think driving a car in the DR is riskier behavior.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Mombo jumbo. Windy you were doing fineIMHO defending YOUR position. ((although I don't agree) Now you are taking the "I' m a little bit pregnant" stance.

I dont think he needs your reaffirmation