Government will insist that all are vaccinated

DR Solar

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So what? What misinformation? The odds are miniscule on dying from the Wuhan flu. We know that. We don't know very much about the vax at all, except that it doesn't work all the time.

You have elected to get the vax and that's your decision. I don't care and I doubt anyone else does. I have elected not to get the vax and get labeled by you people.
You never post your source of misinformation. Publish our sources .
Or are you just making all this up?

Time to back up all your theories with proof.
 
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DR Solar

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Those that are filling the hospitals and graveyards are the same people who were filling the hospitals and graveyards BEFORE this vaccine scam came around, i.e. the elderly and those with preexisting medical conditions.
Nothing has changed.

The rest of the healthy population is doing just fine, vaccinated or not. Maybe try to think for yourself instead of believing and repeating whatever fear mongering crap the media is feeding you.
Your sources of information?
 

SKY

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Sorry...WTF? Where do you get your information?
No reliable medical or science based sources has claimed that you can not get covid after full vaccination. In fact, they acknowledge that a vaccinated person CAN get covid. And they may be able to infect others.
The big difference is 99.2% of those vaccinated that get the virus have very mild symptoms and stay home being just fine.
Those that are filling the hospitals, in ICUs and graveyards had no vaccination.
So let us keep our facts to real and reliable facts.
Misinformation is the now the worlds greatest deterrent to Conqueror this pandemic.
Don't waste your time with these "CovidFools", Anyone that looks at a Soccer game with 75,000 people attending, or the NBA Finals with full arenas only has to look back before vaccines to know how well vaccines are doing.

Let them post all their BS. It only confirms how dumb you can be. 100 people are dead from Covid, 99 of them had no vaccine you figure it out...................................To me they are on my "Pay No Mind LIst'.....................
 

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Variants

From the NYTimes
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Good morning. The Delta variant is more contagious. It does not appear to be more severe.

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Confusion over Delta​

There are two basic questions to ask about any variant of the Covid-19 virus: Is it more contagious than earlier versions of the virus? And is it more severe?​
When a variant is more contagious, it leads to a rise in the number of infections, especially among the unvaccinated. When a variant is more severe, it causes worse symptoms for the average person who gets the virus and leads to a greater percentage of cases that result in hospitalization or death.​
It is easy to confuse these two different concepts when a variant — like Delta — begins spreading. If the variant is more contagious, it often appears to be more severe as well because the increase in caseloads leads to an increase in the raw number of hospitalizations and deaths, as Dr. Robert Wachter of the University of California, San Francisco, explained to me.​
In response, journalists and some experts talk about the new variant being “worse,” “riskier” or “more dangerous” — broad concepts that muddy the difference between contagiousness and severity. “Part of the problem is imprecision in language,” Dr. Rebecca Wurtz, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota, said.​
The difference between the two concepts is important. If a new variant is not actually more severe, it doesn’t present a greater threat to a typical person who contracts Covid. Vaccinated people would remain protected. For children too young to be vaccinated, serious Covid symptoms would still be exceedingly rare — rarer than many other everyday risks, like riding in a car — and still concentrated among children with other health problems.​
After the Alpha variant began spreading late last year, many people assumed that it was both more contagious and more severe. The data soon told a different story, though: Alpha seems to be only more contagious.​
Now the story may be repeating itself with Delta. It is significantly more contagious than even Alpha by almost every measure. It does not appear to be more severe, based on the data available so far.​

‘A sneaky opportunist’​

That data remains messy, and it could change. You can find narrow statistics that point in any direction, variously suggesting that Delta is more severe, similarly severe or less severe than earlier versions of the virus. But the bulk of the evidence indicates no meaningful change.​
“As far as anyone can tell, Delta isn’t more dangerous in the sense that it causes worse disease,” Wurtz told me. “It’s a sneaky opportunist, not a mayhem man.”​
Janet Baseman, a University of Washington epidemiologist, said: “I have not seen compelling evidence that the Delta variant is more severe.” Dr. Paul Sax of Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston told me, “This sense of greater disease severity is more anecdotal than driven by actual data.” Dr. Eric Topol of Scripps Research said, “I don’t think it makes kids sicker.”​
Dr. Aaron Richterman of the University of Pennsylvania said that he did not think Delta required vaccinated parents to behave differently than they did a few weeks ago. Richterman has young children himself, and his family has not changed its behavior, he said.​
 

Lobo Tropical

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I swear you people are the most statistically ignorant of anyone I know. The mortality rate is < 1%. Why is being vaxd so important to you?

Yeah,
So what's the big deal???

I think it's a international government conspiracy to control us.
Usually those guy's can't agree on anything, but go figure... now they did.

The worst was when we couldn't go to the beach and drink beer.
Seems the Japanese and the IOC have it together for the Olympics, right???

Keep on working on your actuary tables for your survival.
 
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Variants

From the NYTimes
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Good morning. The Delta variant is more contagious. It does not appear to be more severe.

Getty Images​

Confusion over Delta​

There are two basic questions to ask about any variant of the Covid-19 virus: Is it more contagious than earlier versions of the virus? And is it more severe?​
When a variant is more contagious, it leads to a rise in the number of infections, especially among the unvaccinated. When a variant is more severe, it causes worse symptoms for the average person who gets the virus and leads to a greater percentage of cases that result in hospitalization or death.​
It is easy to confuse these two different concepts when a variant — like Delta — begins spreading. If the variant is more contagious, it often appears to be more severe as well because the increase in caseloads leads to an increase in the raw number of hospitalizations and deaths, as Dr. Robert Wachter of the University of California, San Francisco, explained to me.​
In response, journalists and some experts talk about the new variant being “worse,” “riskier” or “more dangerous” — broad concepts that muddy the difference between contagiousness and severity. “Part of the problem is imprecision in language,” Dr. Rebecca Wurtz, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota, said.​
The difference between the two concepts is important. If a new variant is not actually more severe, it doesn’t present a greater threat to a typical person who contracts Covid. Vaccinated people would remain protected. For children too young to be vaccinated, serious Covid symptoms would still be exceedingly rare — rarer than many other everyday risks, like riding in a car — and still concentrated among children with other health problems.​
After the Alpha variant began spreading late last year, many people assumed that it was both more contagious and more severe. The data soon told a different story, though: Alpha seems to be only more contagious.​
Now the story may be repeating itself with Delta. It is significantly more contagious than even Alpha by almost every measure. It does not appear to be more severe, based on the data available so far.​

‘A sneaky opportunist’​

That data remains messy, and it could change. You can find narrow statistics that point in any direction, variously suggesting that Delta is more severe, similarly severe or less severe than earlier versions of the virus. But the bulk of the evidence indicates no meaningful change.​
“As far as anyone can tell, Delta isn’t more dangerous in the sense that it causes worse disease,” Wurtz told me. “It’s a sneaky opportunist, not a mayhem man.”​
Janet Baseman, a University of Washington epidemiologist, said: “I have not seen compelling evidence that the Delta variant is more severe.”​

Yep, all viruses act like this. When they mutate they become MORE CONTAGIOUS, but LESS SEVERE/LETHAL.
it is the mechanism all viruses use to spread to more people more easily, they have to become less lethal to spread faster.
So Delta is more contagious but NOT more lethal.
This is basic science that pro vax twats can't comprehend. Instead, they rather learn from all the fear and BS the media feeds them daily.
 
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Lobo Tropical

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They are afraid of dying you know... The Rona is SOOO dangerous that even governments across the world are giving out free lottery tickets to convince people to get jabbed.. hey folks get injected with this experimental vax and MAYBE, just MAYBE if you're lucky, you could become a millionaire 😂


And yet you are afraid😰 of dying of an injection, or medical complications?

Ask NanaSanPedro what the percentage is, of that happening.
He seems to be very competent at that. 😃
 

Lobo Tropical

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Sorry...WTF? Where do you get your information?
No reliable medical or science based sources has claimed that you can not get covid after full vaccination. In fact, they acknowledge that a vaccinated person CAN get covid. And they may be able to infect others.
The big difference is 99.2% of those vaccinated that get the virus have very mild symptoms and stay home being just fine.
Those that are filling the hospitals, in ICUs and graveyards had no vaccination.
So let us keep our facts to real and reliable facts.
Misinformation is the now the worlds greatest deterrent to Conqueror this pandemic.

You must forgive Nana,
He lives in the campo and someone told him.......
Reminds me of little t.
 

Lobo Tropical

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Those that are filling the hospitals and graveyards are the same people who were filling the hospitals and graveyards BEFORE this vaccine scam came around, i.e. the elderly and those with preexisting medical conditions.
Nothing has changed.

The rest of the healthy population is doing just fine, vaccinated or not. Maybe try to think for yourself instead of believing and repeating whatever fear mongering crap the media is feeding you.

Yeah,
Screw your older relatives.
They are a drag and boring, who needs them, right?

You parents and grand parents deserve a more caring person.
 

jd426

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Peoples choice,
Get vacced or not.
The vaccinated can get infected and pass the virus on.
However they are unlikely to be in hospital and they are very unlikely to die of CV19.

Don't worry, as Prof. Windy assured us most of the unvacced won't die.
Some seem to think that the world is overpopulated with stupid people anyway, surely CV19 is send by God to even things out.
As everything, it's God's Will.


Let the chips fall where they may, natural selection and Darwin Awards and keep on laughing as I am. 😂😂😂🍺

I Pray and hope you are 100% right, and I thank God EVERY Day for Giving me COVID, letting me live, and showing me the Light ..
I am a Proud Covid 19 LEPER ... and anti Vaxxer and " unclean " one as you Vaccinated like to call us while pointing your dirty end of the stick..

The planet certainly does need a cleansing , as you say.... the question you have to ask yourself is who will be the chosen ones to be cleaned ... and who will get the last laugh ...
 
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cavok

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Evolution In Action

Since you like laughing, I have provided a link of the Darwin Awards for your enjoyment.
As of yet they have not included the covid 19 section.
Once they do, this will be cause for further hilarity for you.

Don't worry our resident specialist Prof. Windy (comes with age) assured us that most won't die, so why worry???
So enjoy the DR beach and beer, as long as permitted by law.


P.S.

Charles Darwin
Geologist
Charles Robert Darwin FRS FRGS FLS FZS was an English naturalist, geologist and biologist, best known for his contributions to the science of evolution.
One of those pesky so called scientists, like the modern epidemiologists and the WHO.
WTF do they know??? Better rely on dr1 specialists and facebook.
Cheers mates. 🍺
After 150 years, it is still just a theory.
 
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Lobo Tropical

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I Pray and hope you are 100% right, and I thank God EVERY Day for Giving me COVID, letting me live, and showing me the Light ..
I am a Proud Covid 19 LEPER ... and anti Vaxxer and " unclean " one as you Vaccinated like to call us while pointing your dirty end of the stick..

The planet certainly does need a cleansing , as you say.... the question you have to ask yourself is who will be the chosen ones to be cleaned ... and who will get the last laugh ...

I hazard a guess,
The ones that had covid and have antibodies and those vaccinated twice,
Stand a better chance against covid19 than those who have no antibodies.

The facts are, that covid is rising in many countries.
Attending soccer games or holding the Olympics in Japan even without spectators is questionable.
But some people will make money.
No economy wants further lockdowns or economic disruption.

On July 14, 3,211 cases were reported, per Johns Hopkins University. Per AP, Tokyo reported 1,149 cases the same day–the highest total in six months.

But, then there’s the Japanese public, which, obviously, Japan is more concerned about. The country’s population is still below 20% fully vaccinated–a drastically low number. The number has tripled in the last month. This is a good sign, but it won’t create a safer in environment for the public in time for the Tokyo Olympics.

In addition to hotel employees having covid.

Risk of COVID spread is 'zero', IOC chief says, amid rising cases​

Now if that ain't confidence.

JD,
It's not about accusing people, but to contain the worldwide spread of CV19 with the lest amount of suffering medically and economically.

The last laugh will be by those still alive, unavoidably many.

Peace Bro.
 

ejl293

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So what? What misinformation? The odds are miniscule on dying from the Wuhan flu. We know that. We don't know very much about the vax at all, except that it doesn't work all the time.

You have elected to get the vax and that's your decision. I don't care and I doubt anyone else does. I have elected not to get the vax and get labeled by you people.
It isn't all about--you live or you die. There are some very nasty effects from the virus. Just read about a 24 year old fellow now waiting (and hoping for) a double lung transplant. There is a lot more than living or dying.