Problems with Vaccines.. past and present.

[Ecoman1949]

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In a few years we will know more on how long natural immunity lasts, or if any so-called booster shots help.
Or we could know in a 6 months if natural immunity only lasts for 6 months, in different age groups, etc., etc..

I mentioned from day one that the Wuhan Flu is here, there and everywhere to stay. I expected a resolution in 4 to 5 years from day one. All the details on vaccines, boosters and natural immunity and mutations is a work in progress that will take years to understand.

Israel is ground zero for the booster shot. The results of their latest vaccinations should be available quickly.

 

[DR fan1990]

The problem showing up with vaccines is reduced efficacy, on some. or all of them over time. As little as 6 months is showing a drop off in preventing disease.

If true for all vaccines, that means the world will never reach herd immunity. Never is a long time, so what then?

My thought is that since CV19 is here, there and everywhere to stay, we will just have to live with the consequences.

Probably because everyone is getting vaccinated.
When you create vaccines against a virus, the virus mutates to dodge the vaccine properties in order to keep spreading from one person to another. That is how variants pop up and that is how new strains of the regular flu appear every year despite the flu vaccine being around for years.

Will people finally wake up when they realize that the very act of getting vaccinated is likely to trigger new Covid variants, which in turn will give them constant restrictions and lockdowns like in a never-ending pandemic cycle? So much for "getting back to normal".

 

[flyinroom]

When we start quoting/linking places like...
You tube/Project Veritas
Well, let's just say that we might be diving into "alternative facts" territory.
They have a very sketchy track record.
Can you say take it with a grain of salt?
How about an entire salt shaker?

 

[lifeisgreat]

The problem showing up with vaccines is reduced efficacy, on some. or all of them over time. As little as 6 months is showing a drop off in preventing disease.

If true for all vaccines, that means the world will never reach herd immunity. Never is a long time, so what then?

My thought is that since CV19 is here, there and everywhere to stay, we will just have to live with the consequences.

Define your view on consequences , do nothing?

 

[lifeisgreat]

Probably because everyone is getting vaccinated.
When you create vaccines against a virus, the virus mutates to dodge the vaccine properties in order to keep spreading from one person to another. That is how variants pop up and that is how new strains of the regular flu appear every year despite the flu vaccine being around for years.

Will people finally wake up when they realize that the very act of getting vaccinated is likely to trigger new Covid variants, which in turn will give them constant restrictions and lockdowns like in a never-ending pandemic cycle? So much for "getting back to normal".

Your theory is wrong with delta variant it came from India in April unvaccinated time period..

 

[lifeisgreat]

Common Adverse Events After Covid-19 Vaccination: Top 80 | Sharyl Attkisson

Discover 80 of the most common adverse events reported post-Covid-19 vaccination. Stay informed about vaccine-related concerns.

sharylattkisson.com

Have you seen a pharmaceutical commercial lately..you have to pay attention to what it’s selling 98% of air time is how it’s going to F you up..

 

[lifeisgreat]

Probably because everyone is getting vaccinated.
When you create vaccines against a virus, the virus mutates to dodge the vaccine properties in order to keep spreading from one person to another. That is how variants pop up and that is how new strains of the regular flu appear every year despite the flu vaccine being around for years.

Will people finally wake up when they realize that the very act of getting vaccinated is likely to trigger new Covid variants, which in turn will give them constant restrictions and lockdowns like in a never-ending pandemic cycle? So much for "getting back to normal".

Do you realize all viruses mutate? Flu faster and flu shot only 60% effective while COVID mutates at most slower pace thank God..

COVID-19 Variants & Vaccines: Why Does a Virus Mutate?

As of April 25, 2021, more than 42% of the U.S. population have received at least one COVID-19 vaccine. Many are asking how effective are the vaccines against the mutant or variant strains of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

www.nationaljewish.org

 

[chico bill]

And now this, Moderna vaccine being halted in Sweden and Denmark.
So if it causes inflammation of the heart problems for healthy adults under 30 why is it still safe for older hearts ?
I don't get it. Last time I checked your heart doesn't have an age timer on it.

But you see these vaccines are all safe - go get a 3rd or 4th booster, then let's play Russian Roulette

BREAKING BIG: Sweden and Denmark Halt Moderna Vaccinations on Those 30-and-Under Due to Potential Side Effects | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Sweden and Denmark announced on Tuesday they were halting Moderna COVID vaccinations for those under 30-years-old due to possible side effects.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[JD Jones]

Interesting artcle:

News 4 Fact Check: Examining claims that thousands of people died from COVID-19 vaccine

Websites and social media posts have been misusing a federal government database and spreading false information claiming thousands of people have died from taking the COVID-19 vaccine. Experts tell News

www.kmov.com

 

[bob saunders]

And now this, Moderna vaccine being halted in Sweden and Denmark.
So if it causes inflammation of the heart problems for healthy adults under 30 why is it still safe for older hearts ?
I don't get it. Last time I checked your heart doesn't have an age timer on it.

But you see these vaccines are all safe - go get a 3rd or 4th booster, then let's play Russian Roulette

BREAKING BIG: Sweden and Denmark Halt Moderna Vaccinations on Those 30-and-Under Due to Potential Side Effects | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

Sweden and Denmark announced on Tuesday they were halting Moderna COVID vaccinations for those under 30-years-old due to possible side effects.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Certainly is a concern for me as I have no pericardium surrounding my heart. I had pericarditis twice and the se ond time it solidified and had to be removed, an long open heaet surgery. Now supposedly I have no indlamation peotection.

 

[lifeisgreat]

Interesting artcle:

News 4 Fact Check: Examining claims that thousands of people died from COVID-19 vaccine

Websites and social media posts have been misusing a federal government database and spreading false information claiming thousands of people have died from taking the COVID-19 vaccine. Experts tell News

www.kmov.com

the anti Vaxxer only believes COVID deaths have been exaggerated…

 

[cavok]

"“There is no reason to believe those deaths are caused by the vaccine itself,” Dr. Laura Morris said, a physician with the University of Missouri."

The same can be said about Covid deaths - and many doctors have.

 

[chico bill]

Certainly is a concern for me as I have no pericardium surrounding my heart. I had pericarditis twice and the se ond time it solidified and had to be removed, an long open heaet surgery. Now supposedly I have no indlamation peotection.

I think I would avoid all vaccines in your case and put down that Viagra too Bob

 

[chico bill]

the anti Vaxxer only believes COVID deaths have been exaggerated…

And the audio starts off saying "Social Mefia sites cracking down on reports..."
So you put your trust in social media.
You need to have a heart to heart talk with yourself if you put faith in YouTube which censors everything that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

 

[lifeisgreat]

And the audio starts off saying "Social Mefia sites cracking down on reports..."
So you put your trust in social media.
You need to have a heart to heart talk with yourself if you put faith in YouTube which censors everything that doesn't fit the liberal narrative.

That’s a problem you assume so much..I told you my media source is my Wife isn’t yours right all the time also?

 

[cavok]

Check out vaersanalysis.info. 2900 of the deaths happened in the first two days after getting the vaccine and about 40% of them within 5 days of receiving it.

 

[windeguy]

Define your view on consequences , do nothing?

Consequences in this case? Sure. Here goes

It means there has been enough time for everyone to be vaxed that wants to be. Additional shots for potentially more protection if needed as well.
All that can be done, has been done. So:

That means that everything can re-open and the chips will fall where they may. CV19 is, after all, here, there and everywhere to stay. Nowhere near enough people have been vaxed throughout the world to come close to heard immunity and that will almost certainly never happen. It is now time to move on.

In other words, those not vaxed have that right and might get sick and or die from CV19. Those not vaxed also have the right to be second class citizens with some or many restrictions on what they can do depending upon where they live.

Here in the DR, that means no more State of Emergency for CV19 and hence no curfew starting Monday.

Question: Does the lack of an SOE also mean that masks can no longer be mandated?

 

[Lobo Tropical]

Certainly is a concern for me as I have no pericardium surrounding my heart. I had pericarditis twice and the se ond time it solidified and had to be removed, an long open heaet surgery. Now supposedly I have no indlamation peotection.

For some people with medical conditions as indicated by your physician, vaccination may not be recommended.
For most people vaccination is recommended by medical professionals, regardless of what internet contra propaganda says.

Here in PUJ my driver was vaccinated twice with Sinovac and once with Pfizer, he felt that with continuous exposure to arriving passengers it is just prudent.
At the hotel I am staying prior to driving to POP next week,
Employees wear buttons twice vaccinated.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

the anti Vaxxer only believes COVID deaths have been exaggerated…

As much as the internet can be positive and helpful,
It also is turning out to be a dark force for some people with malicious intentions to destroy and disrupt.
One can only hope that people use their inherent intelligence to arrive at conclusions.
However, the world affairs indicate otherwise.

It is now in vogue to utter malicious lies, keep on repeating them question science and to achieve political goals.
Dark forces are on the rise, Democracy is in peril.
The internet has become a big part of this.

 

[windeguy]

Probably because everyone is getting vaccinated.
When you create vaccines against a virus, the virus mutates to dodge the vaccine properties in order to keep spreading from one person to another. That is how variants pop up and that is how new strains of the regular flu appear every year despite the flu vaccine being around for years.

Will people finally wake up when they realize that the very act of getting vaccinated is likely to trigger new Covid variants, which in turn will give them constant restrictions and lockdowns like in a never-ending pandemic cycle? So much for "getting back to normal".

With herd immunity a physical impossibility in the world, there will always be new variants. We will just have to live with it.
Or some governments will just continue restrictions until whenever they give up on them.