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one thing that has me puzzled we know for a fact that Venezuela open their prisons and sent their criminals to the US when they are caught how are they going to be sent back when the military plane is not able to land in that country will they just open the door and fly over the country and boot them out
Venezuela will take them back via the Colombian border if they want to continue selling oil
 
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one thing that has me puzzled we know for a fact that Venezuela open their prisons and sent their criminals to the US when they are caught how are they going to be sent back when the military plane is not able to land in that country will they just open the door and fly over the country and boot them out
Send them back to the country they entered from/ point of entry. Not our problem. Problem solved.
 

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Colombia will not accept flights either.

I saw that on another site. I think they will be convinced otherwise. Since they receive $450 million annually in financial aid, and they export $14 billion annually in products to the US and they have a $10 billion military assistance package called "Plan Colombia".
Let's see what they do when phone calls are made by Rubio
 
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I saw that on another site. I think they will be convinced otherwise. Since they receive $450 million annually in financial aid, and they export $14 billion annually in products to the US and they have a $10 billion military assistance package called "Plan Colombia".
Let's see what they do when phone calls are made by Rubio
Maduro has already said he would accept Venezuelan deportees;


He is looking for sanctions relief and no new sanctions to be put on the country.

As for Colombia, the President was only against US military flights bringing the deportees home.....not commercial or charter flights. He needs to be very careful as President Trump has frozen foreign aid for 90 days to all but a handful of countries......Colombia included in that freeze.

It is no coincidence that Sec. of State Marco Rubio is headed to Central America and the Dominican Republic next week.


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Maduro has already said he would accept Venezuelan deportees;


He is looking for sanctions relief and no new sanctions to be put on the country.

As for Colombia, the President was only against US military flights bringing the deportees home.....not commercial or charter flights. He needs to be very careful as President Trump has frozen foreign aid for 90 days to all but a handful of countries......Colombia included in that freeze.

It is no coincidence that Sec. of State Marco Rubio is headed to Central America and the Dominican Republic next week.


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Trump just now announced a ban on tourism travel to the US by Colombians and a 25% tariff on all Colombian imports.
Your move Gustavo
 

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We really need to get back to posts being DR related. I realize that there is a lot happening with immigration but being DR1 we need to try and keep it DR related.
 
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What do you mean by this? The US has repatriated Dominicans for decades on a monthly or quarterly basis. There has never been an issue of cooperation. The US/DR diplomatic relationship is unmatched on the geopolitical spectrum
Yes I agree. Just saying it won't happen like the news from Mexico and Colombia where they were not allowed to land. It is a forum about the DR.
 

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I think the DR will cooperate.
You bet they will. If 45% of tourism comes from the US it's in their best interest.

I just heard on TV that Colombia now said they will cooperate and accept the repatriation of Colombian criminals.

I would expect every country not to deny this, especially when agreements are in place.
 
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You bet they will. If 45% of tourism comes from the US it's in their best interest.

I just heard on TV that Colombia now said they will cooperate and accept the repatriation of Colombian criminals.

I would expect every country not to deny this, especially when agreements are in place.
Yes in the case of the DR it is tourism from the US they are dependent on. 45% now really. I think that increased during and after the pandemic.
 

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In raw numbers I doubt Dominicans are a big percentage of deportees.
But the drugs going through DR hurts everyone in DR.
Were it not for that perhaps Visas to the US might be easier to obtain
The reason visas for Dominicans are hard to get is that many overstay them illegally and remain in the USA.
Not because of the failed drug war and all the drug transhipment via the DR to the USA.

Those illegal aliens in the USA will now be deported if they are detected where they were previously allowed sanctuary.

Any country refusing to accept deportees of their own citizens from the USA will face sanctions.
 
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There was an alert published in a Puerto Plata whatsapp group about ICE and ERO agents near 18th Street in Union City, NJ amid enforcement activities in Hudson County and asking Dominicans in the area to 'If you are in the area, stay informed and in contact with local authorities or legal advocates.'

I suppose the legally resident Dominicans will be happy. I am happy that the Donald is doing what he said so quickly whereas in the UK they are still waffling about trying to appease
 

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Another update from local Whatsapp group (minus the video):

NOTICIA EN PUERTO RICO | A pesar de que la gobernadora Jenniffer González aseguró que las políticas migratorias de Donald Trump no afectarían a dominicanos indocumentados en Puerto Rico, hoy la realidad fue otra.

🚨 Redada migratoria en Barrio Obrero, Santurce, realizada por autoridades federales, demuestra que las leyes migratorias de EE. UU. aplican 100% en la isla.
BREAKING NEWS IN PUERTO RICO | Although Governor Jenniffer González assured that Donald Trump's immigration policies would not affect undocumented Dominicans in Puerto Rico, today the reality was different.

🚨 Immigration raid in Barrio Obrero, Santurce, carried out by federal authorities, demonstrates that U.S. immigration laws apply 100% on the island.
 

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Another update from local Whatsapp group (minus the video):


BREAKING NEWS IN PUERTO RICO | Although Governor Jenniffer González assured that Donald Trump's immigration policies would not affect undocumented Dominicans in Puerto Rico, today the reality was different.

🚨 Immigration raid in Barrio Obrero, Santurce, carried out by federal authorities, demonstrates that U.S. immigration laws apply 100% on the island.
Puerto Rico does not control immigration and smuggling into PR.
It's US DEA, Coast Guard, TSA or Customs & Border Control in Puerto Rico.
The governor is a newbie so maybe she needs some quick lessons.

There is a reason the US CBP has it's base in Ramey in Aguadilla - because it is closest base to the East Coast of DR.
And they stage operations out of there with the USCG.
They also have tethered Blimps with radar as early detection over the Mona Passage.
They can see when a yolo enters territorial waters, especially with heat signature.
It's a dangerous passage and not very successful.
I used to sit in at an outdoor bar with a DEA agent in San Juan and monitor Coast Guard/DEA video & audio he got on his phone.
This was in 2009. They could tell how many Dominicans left DR and were in the boat.
And technology is light years ahead now,15 years later
 
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The reason visas for Dominicans are hard to get is that many overstay them illegally and remain in the USA.
Not because of the failed drug war and all the drug transhipment via the DR to the USA.

Those illegal aliens in the USA will now be deported if they are detected where they were previously allowed sanctuary.

Any country refusing to accept deportees of their own citizens from the USA will face sanctions.
Looks like the cowards that embrace drugs and anti-drug enforcement have been losing even more battles. More incarcerations, more deportations and more asset seizures. It is really a losing battle to be involved in drugs now.
 

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Looks like the cowards that embrace drugs and anti-drug enforcement have been losing even more battles. More incarcerations, more deportations and more asset seizures. It is really a losing battle to be involved in drugs now.
I worked with a very smart guy in Puerto Rico for several years. Wilfredo was good looking, had some college education and a good career with the company I was contracted to. He was taking pilot training lessons when I worked with him, which I thought then was great.
But in 2008 he got himself fired for defying his boss and being frequently absent.

A short time later he bought his own small plane, and began making frequent flights from a remote airport in PR to the Virgin Islands and a few flights between DR & the USVI and everyone said he was doing 'very well' and had 'a retail cellphone business' in St Thomas and was looking at expanding to DR.

He kept inviting my best friend, an attractive Puerto Rican girl, to go with him to see his store and she always told me about his invites. We both discussed how we were suspicious of his activities and she wisely refused his invitations. You knew he wasn't totally upfront.

Later he showed up at a Christmas party of a contractor I used. That was the last contact I had with him. I remember telling the Contractor I was not comfortable being around with him, because of 'rumors', so I left early.

Just a few months later he was arrested returning in his plane flying into PR. Sometime after his arrest my DEA agent friend told me he knew this guy was at that same Christmas party I attended. The guy & his 'crew' had been under surveillance.

He lost his plane, his home. His money and cocaine were seized and his parents had to put their home up as collateral for bail & his defense. He got 5 years in the Federal prison in Guaynabo.

You can get rich dealing drugs but all drug dealers get greedy, like to be flashy and start living above their means. Most are stupid & don't realize what they are doing draws attention & they're being watched - that's their downfall.