Dominicans in favor of Trump’s increase of raids and deportations

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Or it’s simply that NYC neighborhoods with a heavy Dominican population saw a marked increase in crime during the “vuelta por México” craze and even the introduction of new crimes that were unheard of in NYC but not in rough neighborhoods of places like Caracas. That many of the new criminals have been recent illegal immigrants (since the V por M) simply adds to the suspicion. Most of the criminals that have been caught since the ICE upswing are lightskin and many seen as white by many Dominicans.

ICE is in every decent size urban center right now. My friend has a restaurant/bar in a heavy central american area. His business has dropped 80% because most of his customers are illegals. They don't go out because ICE is in the area.

Also, citizens that are from immigrant backgrounds should carry their passports or legal status documents because a regular ID is not enough identification.
 
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ICE is in every decent size urban center right now. My friend has a restaurant/bar in a heavy central american area. His business has dropped 80% because most of his customers are illegals. They don't go out because ICE is in the area.

Also, citizens that are from immigrant backgrounds should carry their passports or legal status documents because a regular ID is not enough identification.
His customers are illegals? Interesting.
 
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I don't see a reason for someone to fabricate a story like this. It is most likely true.
This person sounds like your typical "victim" to me. The bus driver may well have not allowed the kid to board the bus, but no rational person is just going to pick up and leave solely because of what a bus driver did on one day. There's more to the story than this.
 

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There are different types of immigrants ...those that come with both hands out looking for everything for nothing and those that come here to make a life for themselves
 

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They cross the border to work construction. They leave their family behind so his business is a place for them to socialize. Most haven't seen their families in years they just send them money.
Many are seeking a better life. But so is the entire world.
I can empathize with them. I know many of them.
What happened to the US border under Biden (basically no border) caused a backlash that got Trump reelected. Gluttony is a sin.

People did not want school gyms, airports or hotels taken over by thousands of invetted people who turned to crime or public funding.

I wish the peaceful & self-sufficient immigrants best of luck. They took a risk but it may not work out for them.

The videos were mostly long lines of 17-40 year old men - that creates a population imbalance.
Also the US could benefit from immigration from other (non-Latino) countries - because there is an overload from South of the border.
Yes speed up legal application process, once the border is secured.
 
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Not Dominicans in general. Dominicans that have the same type of short-sighted rich-person worship mixed in with a very strong racist/"anti-other" cultural upbringing. Anybody either old enough or with a sense of history, and logic, can see where this is really coming from and where it is going. The "caught a criminal stories" are deliberate PR, what's actually happening is manipulation and someone, somewhere's making good money or working a political angle. US, DR, UK it's all the same thing. Unfortunately it's not just fraud-for-profit, it has real effects, on migrants, on anyone who looks like a "migrant", on taxpayers, on the economy and ultimately on peoples continued increased tolerance of bigotry. If they don't wise up soon we'll be set back 75 years. Mark my words, some idiot somewhere is going to pull some posse crap and go after some innocent kid on his way home from school.
Deporting illegal aliens is not bigotry. It is doing the right thing. People have no right to be in any country illegally.

Unfortunately there will be instances of people that are legally in a country that are rounded up by accident.
In the massive deportations under way, that will be impossible to avoid.

Some people like the play the race card. And so it goes.
 

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There are different types of immigrants ...those that come with both hands out looking for everything for nothing and those that come here to make a life for themselves
All of them should be in the country legally regardless of their goals. If they are illegal, deport them. This is the current goal and is very hard to accomplish with the vast numbers of illegal aliens in the USA. Anybody who thinks they are just deporting felons, I have a bridge in Brooklyn for you.
 

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I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.
I would mention that you must be right because 1,500 convicted criminals in the US were just released to live among other citizens. But that would not be DR related. But then most of this thread is not DR related.
 

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I would mention that you must be right because 1,500 convicted criminals in the US were just released to live among other citizens. But that would not be DR related. But then most of this thread is not DR related.
Nothing to do with the DR and zero to do with sending illegal aliens home.
 

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Earnestly believing that immigrants are the causes of crimewaves says you have lived a very sheltered or rural life and never really been in an area where crime really happens, and that lets people who think we are all suckers benefit, I just don't agree with what I see as disingenuous.
Years ago I think most immigrant communities (legal or not) were able to do a better job of policing their own but unfortunately this is no longer the case.
 

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well well well....... let's see how much "in favor" the Dominicans in the DR will be when we get the estimated 13,000 Hard Core Criminals returned to the DR.
 

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Against my advice, an old Dominican friend entered the U.S. on a tourist visa with her daughter 2 years ago and never left. She believed the lie that the previous administration told the world and figured she'd be okay. After Trump was elected, she joked that she was afraid I'd turn her in. After the election I asked her if she was concerned. She said no. After the recent raids in NYC (she's in the Bronx), she's now afraid to answer her door. Things have suddenly gotten real for her and a lot of other people. The two advantages she has are that she speaks English, and her daughter's father is American (not me!). She tearfully asked if she could stay with me for a while since I live in the woods and no one would bother her. Of course I would, but for the time being I told her to stay away from anyone and any place that looks shady.

Directly to the title of thread, she is disappointed that legal Dominicans are not doing more to advocate for her and people like her. I feel for her and others like her, but what does she expect them to do? A particular American political party has been screaming for years: "No one is above the law"!
 
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How soon they forget. Obama earned the moniker "Deporter-In-Chief" for his tough stance on illegal immigration and for having deported more illegals than any previous President. Yet, the very same same that applauded and supported this have flip-flopped and now find this a terrible thing to do. How does that happen?
 

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I guess some people don't mind living amongst criminals, murderers, rapists and thieves. The gov is doing what they are commissioned to do, thankfully.
Yup Criminals , Murderers , and Rapists seem to be OK with them..

As long as people dont use words which Hurt some people's Feelings ..

You cant make this Isht up folks ..

I cant even believe the level of stupidity from some People ( like Selena ) .

Show me ONE case where a FAMILY living peacefully in the USA was " rounded up" and deported ?
Unless ONE person in that family is a stone cold Criminal and they are hiding him , they got nothing to worry about .
Ice does not even have TIME for such foolishness .. they got Serious Criminals to go after . Tens of THOUSANDS of them
Why is this so complicated for some people to comprehend ?
 
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Why is this so complicated for some people to comprehend ?
Unless these Dominicans (and other illegals) are hanging around or housing criminals wanted for deportation, they have little to worry about at this point in time. Head down, chin up...
keep it moving.
 

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Against my advice, an old Dominican friend entered the U.S. on a tourist visa with her daughter 2 years ago and never left. She believed the lie that the previous administration told the world and figured she'd be okay. After Trump was elected, she joked that she was afraid I'd turn her in. After the election I asked her if she was concerned. She said no. After the recent raids in NYC (she's in the Bronx), she's now afraid to answer her door. Things have suddenly gotten real for her and a lot of other people. The two advantages she has are that she speaks English, and her daughter's father is American (not me!). She tearfully asked if she could stay with me for a while since I live in the woods and no one would bother her. Of course I would, but for the time being I told her to stay away from anyone and any place that looks shady.

Directly to the title of thread, she is disappointed that legal Dominicans are not doing more to advocate for her and people like her. I feel for her and others like her, but what does she expect them to do? A particular American political party has been screaming for years: "No one is above the law"!
How does she work and support her and her kid?
 

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Unless these Dominicans (and other illegals) are hanging around or housing criminals wanted for deportation, they have little to worry about at this point in time. Head down, chin up...
keep it moving.
Yes and no. Step 2 of the Deportation Plan is to fine everybody that employs illegals. They are talking about 25k per employee (first offense), 50k (second offense) and 100k third offense. If they really go through with this one, they will all leave voluntarily. Also "Catch and Release has already been canceled. If they arrest anybody for even a minor offense, they will hand them over to ICE (except some sanctuary cities). The Goal of all this is to spread as much fear among illegals as possible and it is clearly working. I just came back from NY (Manhattan) and all the guys that sold stolen goods in public view on the streets are gone. And NY is one of the sanctuary cities. I don't even want to imagine how illegals feel in Mexico o Florida for example. Bottom line: The Good Times are truly over for Illegals.