I am with this. With disasters it’s proven to better have regular official press conferences then have the news dominated by all kinds of rumors.
Some keep insisting it is to soon for conclusions, I would say it is too late.
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Jet Set Disaster
Some keep insisting it is to soon for conclusions, I would say it is too late.
I know the DR government approach to things is different compared to other governments. During a disaster of this scale, I expected the President to be quickly on scene assuring the relatives that everything would be done to rescue the injured and retrieve the dead and a full investigation would be carried out to find the causes and prevent future disasters of this type. That’s a proactive approach that serves political interests well and reduces media misinformation. A lot more effective than trying to control the media with decrees from your office, which so far hasn’t been very successful.
Any of us that have spent time in the DR know how the previous and current governments operates during high profile negative media events where their actions are under close scrutiny. It’s chaotic and muted. Always reactive, never proactive. I understand why. Self preservation is a necessity for politicians. The President’s actions, so far, appear to be motivated by self preservation, media control, and biding for time, hoping the heat from the impacted families on his government cools down.
I agree with your perspective on the conclusions. Any conclusions released to the media will absolve the government of all liability. Only class action lawsuits will hold them accountable and we know that doesn’t happen in the DR.
Really? Everything in Cabarete open as usual yesterday, although pretty quiet due to heavy rain.
Just curious, you're saying that they should know by now what happened and why?
I don't live there. I report what I see with my own eyes and hear from the owner. Certainly not from this site.
You do realize the President visited the site the next day, correct?
Didn’t you know that any one of the DR1 “Keyboard Warriors” can run the Dominican Republic better than the President. Just ask them…………
Perhaps not yet conclusions, but report on progress or something.
Found this, which to my surprise is pretty detailed:
Afloran hipótesis sobre el porqué del colapso del techo de Jet Set
Especialistas han ofrecido sus consideraciones sobre la posible causa de este incidente
www.diariolibre.com
Exactly JD (post #186), and he has given comments on what happened and what he expects. I think he is doing the right thing by being careful what he says, what information he gives. Give people the time to bury their loved ones, to mourn. As for Ecoman1949 comments: His actions are self-motivated? Maybe he is being careful, making sure all the right steps are being taken. Controlling the media? Do you think it is fair for loved ones to see their family members that way? To have unproven accusations being thrown around in the media? What does that accomplish, who does that help. It is easy to criticize when you (we) have no idea what is going on in private.
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If they started investigation onsite before it was cleared they should have a clue by now. It’s a collapsed roof, not a complicated plane crash. If they started afterwards when the site was cleared and the debris dumped it is much harder to draw conclusions so yes that would be too late. Any delay here would allow for diverting culpability. Thats how it goes.
But do you know that they didn't? We were not there (that I know of), so we do not know exactly what took place and when. Again, believing everything in the media is naive on our part. I am not defending anything, but I know better than to come to conclusions when clearly the facts are not all there.
It really was the same day. It happened Tuesday morning and he was there Tuesday afternoon.
They've taken a lot of high definition fotos and debris had to be removed to try and find any survivors. They probably saved any pieces that they thought might provide clues to the cause of the collapse.
I think the hypothesis presented in the article in post #188 is probably correct. Water penetrated the roof due to the use of incorrect material and oxidized the rebar causing it to expand and weaken the concrete. Probably something that should have been noticed during regular inspections(if any). The heavy bass sound from the speakers and the vibrations it caused precipitated the collapse.
Yes! I said in my post I expected the President to make an appearance at the site which he did. My point was it was better than issuing decrees to stop media rumours. I thought that was clear.
No I don’t know when the official investigation started and it’s progress, that’s why I posted both possibilities. Yes, believing everything in the media is naive. But the facts leading to the collapse itself are out there. Its the consequences for those responsible that may be the tricky part.
The club owner Mr. Antonio Espaillat, who also owns a restaurant in ZC called "Jalao" has announced a temporary closure of its operations effective immediately.
I'm guessing there must be a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes that none of us are privy to?
dominicantoday.com
I'm guessing there must be a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes that none of us are privy to?
Jalao Restaurant, linked to Jet Set owner, shuts doors amid tragedy investigation
<p>Santo Domingo.- Jalao, a popular restaurant located in the Colonial City of Santo Domingo, has announced a temporary closure of its operations. The restaurant conveyed the information through an official statement on its Instagram account, amidst growing public scrutiny surrounding its...
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So what happens to the employees? Will they get a severance?The club owner Mr. Antonio Espaillat, who also owns a restaurant in ZC called "Jalao" has announced a temporary closure of its operations effective immediately.
I'm guessing there must be a lot of conversations happening behind the scenes that none of us are privy to?
Jalao Restaurant, linked to Jet Set owner, shuts doors amid tragedy investigation
<p>Santo Domingo.- Jalao, a popular restaurant located in the Colonial City of Santo Domingo, has announced a temporary closure of its operations. The restaurant conveyed the information through an official statement on its Instagram account, amidst growing public scrutiny surrounding its...
Good question.
I don't think a "temporary" closure in this type of situation would allow them to collect however I'm not the best person to ask.
Just to mention it again: The majority of us here on the board do not grasp the full extent of the dynamics of what is going on behind the scenes in this tragedy.
Dona Grecia (The owner of the Disco) has over 50 years of friendship with many, many members of the DR elite and movers and doers in this country.
Not only on a first name basis, but sharing good times and bad with them. Folks like the Grullon family (BPD owners) are on their third and fourth generation of knowing each other. They have all known each other for decades and have shared many special moments together.
Most of these folks are from families who were part of the power matrix that ran the country so to speak, back during much simpler times of the sixties and seventies and have watched the country grow together.
Even the President's father, José Rafael Abinader Wassaf, a Dominican businessman, politician, lawyer, and writer. He founded the Universidad Dominicana O&M and was president of Grupo Abicor, a business consortium.
He served as a senator, finance minister, and vice-president of the Dominican Revolutionary Party, and ran for president multiple times, so they are also a part of that long standing power dynamic.
It will be interesting to see how this case is handled in the coming weeks.
For some strange reason the words "low hanging fruit" came to mind while reading your comment.