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Question for smokers
At the resort I paid 70 pesos for two packs. I reccommend that you venture to the supermarket and try some different brands...I fell in love with the vogues!!!! It was like smoking a toothpick 
Crazy. I also developed a taste for the Nancionals suave. The blue pack is good. Didn't really like the menthols.
Crazy. I also developed a taste for the Nancionals suave. The blue pack is good. Didn't really like the menthols.Fresher would be a better description than stronger.
I pay RD$25 for a pack of cigarettes, up from $RD20 last year.
This is the street vendor price. Cheaper at a colmado or even cheaper by the carton (RD$200 for 10). I import 4-5 cartons a month into the USA for friends from the DR and Brasil (American brand cigaretts cost the equivalent to about RD$15 in Brasil).
I pay RD$25 for a pack of cigarettes, up from $RD20 last year.
This is the street vendor price. Cheaper at a colmado or even cheaper by the carton (RD$200 for 10). I import 4-5 cartons a month into the USA for friends from the DR and Brasil (American brand cigaretts cost the equivalent to about RD$15 in Brasil).
Cigarettes are discusting. I hope they go up to 20- dollars US a pack and they put that money in a fund to pay for all your cancer treatments you will need before you die a horrible uncomfortable death.
Sheesh, did I just say that? I guess I intolerant as the Taliban.
Sheesh, did I just say that? I guess I intolerant as the Taliban.
Fact:
Nearly half of us will get cancer and only about 1 in 20 will be related to smoking. So don't try to make cigarettes the big cause of cancer.
Fact:
Alcohol is a major factor in 2/3 of all deaths, far more than than cigarettes (1/40). So you favor artificial price increases for alcoholic beverages too, are are you just going by smell?
Sources: http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/CFF2002.pdf, page 14, http://www.lungusa.org/diseases/lungcanc.html#what,
http://www.state.nj.us/health/news/p11119a.htm.
Nearly half of us will get cancer and only about 1 in 20 will be related to smoking. So don't try to make cigarettes the big cause of cancer.
Fact:
Alcohol is a major factor in 2/3 of all deaths, far more than than cigarettes (1/40). So you favor artificial price increases for alcoholic beverages too, are are you just going by smell?
Sources: http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/CFF2002.pdf, page 14, http://www.lungusa.org/diseases/lungcanc.html#what,
http://www.state.nj.us/health/news/p11119a.htm.
Jim Hinsch said:
Is that fact you posted relating to "Lung Cancer" or all cancers including breast cancer?
What percentage of Lung and Throat Cancer sufferers are/were smokers would be the more pertinent info I think.
Is alcohol a factor in your health or car accidents when you give those statistics? Big difference to me.
To answer your question, the smell is very offensive to me but more to the point is that passive smoke hurts others also. When I have a beer it will never hurt you. If I was not a responsible person and drove after 40 beers it would but I don't think that is a good comparison.
Regards
41% of us will get cancer.
21% of us will die of cancer.
16% of cancers are lung cancer.
25% of cancer deaths are lung cancer.
87% of lung cancer is caused by smoking.
25% of people smoke.
Chances of getting cancer (all): 1 in 2.5
Chances of getting lung cancer (all): 1 in 15
Chances of getting lung cancer (smokers): 1 in 4.3
Chances of getting lung cancer (non-smokers): 1 in 52
Source:
http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/CFF2002.pdf
Car accidents are included in the alcohol related death rate.
21% of us will die of cancer.
16% of cancers are lung cancer.
25% of cancer deaths are lung cancer.
87% of lung cancer is caused by smoking.
25% of people smoke.
Chances of getting cancer (all): 1 in 2.5
Chances of getting lung cancer (all): 1 in 15
Chances of getting lung cancer (smokers): 1 in 4.3
Chances of getting lung cancer (non-smokers): 1 in 52
Source:
http://www.cancer.org/downloads/STT/CFF2002.pdf
Car accidents are included in the alcohol related death rate.
Jim, thanks for the websites...but your numbers dont add up
These are some statistics I pulled from that web site (cancer.org):
in 2002 its estimated that 170,000 new deaths from tobacco, while 19,000 to excessive alcochol use.
In the USA, risk of developing cancer over a lifetime: men < 50%, women < 33%, total ~42%
tobacco is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 deaths in the USA
heart disease is responsible for nearly 1 in 4 deaths
approximately half of all continuing smokers die from diseases related to smoking
smoking is a major cause of heart disease,cerebrovascular disease,chronic bronchitis and emphysenma, and is associated with gastric ulcers
smoking is associated with the cancers of the: mouth, pharynx,larynx,esophagus,pancreas,uterine cervix,kidney and bladder
smokers who quit before the age of 50 halve their risk of dying over the succeding 15 years, as compared to those who continue to smoke
http://www.lungusa.org/data/
"Lung disease is America's number three killer, responsible for one in seven deaths. "
when you add the other cancers that smoke contributes to, then you get the number of 1 in 5.
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/ncrash02.htm
less than 1 in 10,000 die from alcohol realted traffic fatalities. insignificant compared to tobacco related deaths.
http://www.madd.org/stats/0,1056,1298,00.html
Jim, where did you get your numbers?
These are some statistics I pulled from that web site (cancer.org):
in 2002 its estimated that 170,000 new deaths from tobacco, while 19,000 to excessive alcochol use.
In the USA, risk of developing cancer over a lifetime: men < 50%, women < 33%, total ~42%
tobacco is responsible for nearly 1 in 5 deaths in the USA
heart disease is responsible for nearly 1 in 4 deaths
approximately half of all continuing smokers die from diseases related to smoking
smoking is a major cause of heart disease,cerebrovascular disease,chronic bronchitis and emphysenma, and is associated with gastric ulcers
smoking is associated with the cancers of the: mouth, pharynx,larynx,esophagus,pancreas,uterine cervix,kidney and bladder
smokers who quit before the age of 50 halve their risk of dying over the succeding 15 years, as compared to those who continue to smoke
http://www.lungusa.org/data/
"Lung disease is America's number three killer, responsible for one in seven deaths. "
when you add the other cancers that smoke contributes to, then you get the number of 1 in 5.
http://alcoholism.about.com/library/ncrash02.htm
less than 1 in 10,000 die from alcohol realted traffic fatalities. insignificant compared to tobacco related deaths.
http://www.madd.org/stats/0,1056,1298,00.html
Jim, where did you get your numbers?
just got back from the "barceo bavaro beach hotel and there, they were $3.00 per pack for the marlboro, and only $2.00 for the local brand, which was nationals, I think. My husband smokes benson and hedges, which they didnt have available. The best bet is to get them at the airport. They were $15.00 a carton there. My son in law brought back about 9 cartons and no one even checked his luggage, Supposedly you can only bring back one carton.I do not smoke, but why pay $42.00 a carton here, when you can get as much as you want there for one third the price!!.
Jim Hinsch said:
Well I guess smoking in particular if not good for your health.
IF it made you live 10 years longer it still stinks. Smokers have a far greater chance of croaking from their self inflicted desires than people that don't.
Oh well, knowing what it does to you and you continue is just "shame on you" and "shame on you for what your passive smoke does to others".
Good luck.
Happy monday everyone...
I dont smoke now but when I did the had an inexpensive brand call cremas. short balck pure tobbaco cigerette was very good.. I also found that most shoppers have to get out of the habit of big storesw and shop in the colmados the prices always cheaper.. but remeber to barter prices never fixed ...
I dont smoke now but when I did the had an inexpensive brand call cremas. short balck pure tobbaco cigerette was very good.. I also found that most shoppers have to get out of the habit of big storesw and shop in the colmados the prices always cheaper.. but remeber to barter prices never fixed ...
Cremas...??
Man, do they still make those. I remember when those were about the only cigarettes around. They would sure knock you on your butt if you wern't used to them. Glad I quit too (for the fourth time).
Man, do they still make those. I remember when those were about the only cigarettes around. They would sure knock you on your butt if you wern't used to them. Glad I quit too (for the fourth time).