10,000 Euros for a Baby

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Yeah I do. Bunch of religious zealots that probably wanted to start a new doomsday cult.

On another note... love that handle! Commander! :bunny:

Dont get me started on those Kooks. But I had always thought they had planned on using those children for sex rings and personal whipping boys for perverts. And no disrespect, but their parents were exceptionally ignorant of the World-At-Large. They would buy the whole sales pitch, hook, line and sinker, sell their children for $300 of rice.

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Sosua Sonny

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Ever study the Old Testament? The price for a daughter should be a year's worth of food if you have to sell her. $300.00 worth of rice would probably feed the rest of the family. What would make you think the people wanted babies as sex toys? Anything more than your own predilection? Or the word of some preacher which reflects on his predilections?

Sometimes I feel you just post to get your post count up. Don't sweat it... you will get to 9000 posts soon enough,
 
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Ever study the Old Testament? The price for a daughter should be a year's worth of food if you have to sell her. $300.00 worth of rice would probably feed the rest of the family. What would make you think the people wanted babies as sex toys? Anything more than your own predilection? Or the word of some preacher which reflects on his predilections?


Why? because if the price is right, everyone is prone to be exploited. And if your price was less than the airfare, then I dont think you will fare well once no one knows where you have been sent. Plus, I also think that the people here have a childish view of the outside world where people are judged solely based on the useless $20 words they use. "He said he was going to send him to France to get an education.", "They said they would train her to be a nurse" Then they arrive and they never go to school, they become some personal sex slave. Do I have predilections for this? Nope, but it ALREADY happens everywhere(in Europe, in Asia, in the Americas-the US included) so why add to this madness because some one had "good intentions" or a magical pipe dream?
 

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Some people are creatures of emotion. Other peoples are creatures of logic. Obviously you are very emotionally attached to this issue which is probably clouding your judgement. It is ludicrous to think that to adopt a baby it should take no more than a week. Beauty of life is everybody is allowed their own opinion. But I thank God that you are not in charge of any adoption process in any country.

life would be SO MUCH BETTER if i was the ruler of the world. boy oh boy.

how much time does it take to verify the paperwork supplied? surely, not years. all the lazy, overpaid social worker needs to do is to type some stuff into google and made few phone calls. current process is beyond ridiculous. which is why people go to such extremes in order to fulfill their dream of having children.
 

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life would be SO MUCH BETTER if i was the ruler of the world. boy oh boy.

how much time does it take to verify the paperwork supplied? surely, not years. all the lazy, overpaid social worker needs to do is to type some stuff into google and made few phone calls. current process is beyond ridiculous. which is why people go to such extremes in order to fulfill their dream of having children.


Yes you should also have Derfish as your Vice President. Between the 2 of you with your sound logic, intelligence and reasoning I am sure that the two of you would make fabulous leaders of the world. :lick:
 

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Yes you should also have Derfish as your Vice President. Between the 2 of you with your sound logic, intelligence and reasoning I am sure that the two of you would make fabulous leaders of the world. :lick:

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Not necessarily. But when it comes to adoption background checks should be done. A financial assessment should be done. A feasibility study of the child's future home environment should be done. If you do not see the validity, the necessity and the benefit of these checks and balances then you are too far gone.

Too bad this is not done with EVERY parent to be :)
 

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Too bad this is not done with EVERY parent to be :)

If they implemented these standards on natural births you would have world wide riots against governments with the reasoning the government is running our lives. The last thing I need or want is the government regulating my penis.
 

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They paid but did not receive the children.

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A lawyer and a mother (24) were accused of selling three of four sons and were remanded in custody.

Two brothers (!) from Puerto Rico denounced that the woman refused to hand over her three children (3, 7 and 8) in spite of having received a down payment of 10,000 US$.
The total for the sale of the children allegedly was agreed upon to be 1 million pesos.

The two plaintiffs had earlier presented a receipt to the authorities, but preferred not to show up for the trial... :rolleyes:

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dv8

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selling a newborn i can understand, it's basically like being a surrogate mother. but selling a child that is few years old? lovely parents.
 

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selling a newborn i can understand, it's basically like being a surrogate mother. but selling a child that is few years old? lovely parents.

That post is a perfect text book example of a skewed sense of morality.
 

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This story sounds like something out of Law & Order. The adoption process is more than just swapping $$$$$$$$$$ for a human life.

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Some people are creatures of emotion. Other peoples are creatures of logic. Obviously you are very emotionally attached to this issue which is probably clouding your judgement. It is ludicrous to think that to adopt a baby it should take no more than a week. Beauty of life is everybody is allowed their own opinion. But I thank God that you are not in charge of any adoption process in any country.

Parents wait 4 or 5 years at times for a child in civilized society. I have been down the adoption path twice and I can assure you that you have no emmotional understanding of what you are talking about, only a clouded ideal of how you wish it should be, but after 30, 40 years the adoption process has hardly picked up at all. There are many mothers willing to offer up their almost newborn kids for a decent life and the penpushers protecting their own arse are too self absorbed to consider the mothers emotions, the childs future and the desperation that wannabe parents are going through just wishing for that child. The entire agency are standing with their backs against a wall, paranoid to make decisions that in the end 50 people uninterested, unrelated and uninvolved end up making a decision that yes, could have been made in a month or two. Unqualified, uninterested and very overly judgemental environments are the only way we can explain the hypocricy that turns the wheels on all suitable parent issues. The same people will turn down Pam and Joe regular and then make judgement that child mother crack head whore wendy is capable of looking after little crack baby Chris. There is a middle ground, and use of common sense and genuine judgement is required to understand this middle ground. I see nothing wrong with financial gain when adopting a child, are we to understand that those making the judgements for the agency are not in this for financial gain............
 

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Have you ever heard of project Pedro Pan where the Cuban Rich who hadn't gotten out of Cuba sent 10,000 kids to Europe and the USA to be raised by relatives. Well known story in Miami. I've known a couple of those Pedro Pan kids and they did get a better life than they would have had in Cuba, are you suggesting that these Haitian kids you refer to wouldn't have had a better life in Europe? Are you involved at all with how the Haitians live here ion this side of the island? I have no personal knowledge of how they live on the other side, but they prefer to be here, so things must be worse there.

Fish,

This is not the same thing at all. Parents sending their children to relatives so the child will be safe is a lot different than selling your child to a stranger. I would not trust a stranger with my children, but I certainly would trust my sister, whose character I know.