A lot of businesses closed in Sosua

windeguy

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The problem with liking something as it is, is that change is certain. And for Sosua, there is a change a comin'.

As for Esplanada, (now that I realize it is the abandoned set of buildings on the eastern part of Pedro Clisante) and it's redevelopment, it does seem to be a bit far from the beach to be a great tourist location.
 

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Cutting down all those trees will be a total disaster. Part of the charm of Sosua beach is being able to sit in front of the various bars and small restaurants in the SHADE! Only the most dedicated sun worshippers(minority) want to lay on the beach in the sweltering sun all day! Just look at how they ruined that stretch of Pedro Clisante by cutting down the trees. It used to be a nice respite from the sun to be able to stroll along that shady stretch of PC. Now, with the trees gone, it's like walking through a giant sauna and, in the bright sun, you can really see what a honky-tonk crap hole PC really is.

Some little vendor village just won't cut it. It will destroy the local flavor of Sosua beach. Fix up the ones that are there and leave them there!
 

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When surrounded by people who do not possess common sense- it is best change your analytical thought process.

When decisions and therefor actions occur, its best to think "What would be the exact opposite of a logical intelligent solution to a problem". Once this is done you will
not only fit in here, you will better understand the "how and why" things happen! The beauty of this, it becomes predictable and therefor not shocking and there is no longer a reason to question it.
Be like your environment, fit in, be a chameleon.
 

Seamonkey

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This thread will hit 12000 posts and Sosua will still be the same. Besides the 4 bars closing (and reopening soon) the hour change (which will be go back to normal before high season) and the so called crackdown on putas.....nothing has changed. There are still the same amount of girls available walking the street day and night, same mongers flying in to support them and the same expats complaining about something they cannot change...especially those that don't live here.

Nobody knows the outcome, nobody knows who the invertors are or if there really are any, nobody know anything cause the government doesn't know either. As for the beach changing, the beach vendors will take care of that as they did in the past. Guns will be drawn and the talking will continue.
 

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When surrounded by people who do not possess common sense- it is best change your analytical thought process.

When decisions and therefor actions occur, its best to think "What would be the exact opposite of a logical intelligent solution to a problem". Once this is done you will
not only fit in here, you will better understand the "how and why" things happen! The beauty of this, it becomes predictable and therefor not shocking and there is no longer a reason to question it.
Be like your environment, fit in, be a chameleon.

I get it now.... if the sight of prostitution is an issue, close a bunch of bars for no reason and force it on the streets. If prostitution is legal, lock people up for it. Makes sense now.
 

cavok

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When surrounded by people who do not possess common sense- it is best change your analytical thought process.

When decisions and therefor actions occur, its best to think "What would be the exact opposite of a logical intelligent solution to a problem". Once this is done you will
not only fit in here, you will better understand the "how and why" things happen! The beauty of this, it becomes predictable and therefor not shocking and there is no longer a reason to question it.
Be like your environment, fit in, be a chameleon.

Believe me, I've been here long enough that not much shocks or surprises me, and what happens in Sosua - stays in Sosua!
 

oriole100

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When I got here 12 years ago things were different. Things change. You can't stop it. People who come here in a Year will see how things are. They won't know how thing were. It seems that thing are getting better in general but I don't own a bar on PC. I'm here and I'll be here in a year, I hope.
 

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These are the things to start with.

Most online news outlets are posting accounts now which adds a few things.........but I am sure it comes at a price to suit his tourism objectives. Leaves others to search that out.

Maybe your pavement concerns and street lighting will also be addressed from what I read. And the beach facility plus hospital was requested. The later he said he would look at.

I recall water was a big issue or you so you should be very happy.
 
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So what happened at the meeting yesterday at the casino?

I'm assuming you meant Friday's meeting organized by ASOCOBAS.

I was surprised by the low attendance, despite the association's efforts to promote this meeting in most of the neighborhoods in Sos?a by handing out invitations on the street and appearances on local TV claiming that they would be addressing not just the issue of the closing hours for businesses but also infrastructure, e.g. water, electricity, roads, etc. Approximately 70 people total, including the association's board members, local press, and the staff supporting the event.

In attendance were the owners of "El Flow", Hotel Europa, Blue Ice Bar, Bar Central, employees from Rumba, Club X, Classico Disco, Merengue Bar, Hotel Bellarmar, Costa Norte TV, Platinum Gym, Coral Reef Casino, several local taxi drivers, beach vendors and motoconcho drivers. Conspicuous by their absence were residents from Sos?a's neighborhoods away from El Batey who were being aggressively solicited to attend by the association in the days preceding the meeting.

After welcoming formalities, the president of the association Antony Martes promised the audience that they are working hard on the issue of the water problems of Sos?a and had sent a letter to COORAPLATA (water company) demanding action. A few more words were spoken regarding addressing infrastructure issues and then he began to speak about the operating hours. In total about seven minutes of the meeting were dedicated to the infrastructure issues.

The president of the association then went on to speak about the injustice of the operating hours, how it is devastating Sos?a's economy and how more people are becoming unemployed and more businesses are closing. He quoted some passages from the constitution of the Dominican Republic referring to freedom to do business and certain rights granted Dominican citizens.

The next speaker was Julio Taveras, president of the "junta de vecinos of El Batey de Sos?a" who's tone was more aggressive and much louder. He continued the theme of injustice of the hours, increased unemployment, etc. Several other ASOCOBAS members spoke each one pontificating and speaking louder than the preceding member, it was annoying to listen to the rhetoric.

Final speaker was the owner of "El Flow Bar", he is one of the more militant of the members. He mentioned how he is not afraid of the local government or authorities and knows his rights under the law. His discourse included veiled threats toward more "aggressive" protests or other "actions".

In the president's final statement he mentioned that the association would continue communicating with the government and working toward changing the operating hours, he also said that they will be organizing "concentrations" in Los Charamicos, Maranatha and Los Castillos. Then the meeting concluded.

Throughout the entire meeting audience members were leaving two and three at a time so by the end of the meeting maybe 60% of the attendees remained. It was obvious they (ASOCOBAS) were embarrassed by the original low attendance and even more so by the exiting audience members during the meeting.

Outside after the meeting, in a much more informal atmosphere, the majority of the people expressed that the only way the authorities would pay attention to the issues is if "we go to the streets", which can be interpreted as possibly more aggressive protests, burning tires, stopping traffic, etc.
 

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I'm surprised that the whores themselves don't have an association. I wonder how long until the first tire gets burned. The ole' burning tire. The international symbol of social injustice.
 

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I'm surprised that the whores themselves don't have an association. I wonder how long until the first tire gets burned. The ole' burning tire. The international symbol of social injustice.

Burn those tires where the beach condos are planned
 

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I'm surprised that the whores themselves don't have an association. I wonder how long until the first tire gets burned. The ole' burning tire. The international symbol of social injustice.

MODEMU is perhaps the nearest thing and with a voice in Congress now and they actively aim at helping prostitutes give up that work and rejoin society. https://es-la.facebook.com/MODEMU-263752766995428/

I am sure you will hear more of them and Jacqueline Montero in the coming months and years. Counselling was mentioned at the very beginning of the recent campaign in Sosua.
 

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MODEMU is perhaps the nearest thing and with a voice in Congress now and they actively aim at helping prostitutes give up that work and rejoin society. https://es-la.facebook.com/MODEMU-263752766995428/

I am sure you will hear more of them and Jacqueline Montero in the coming months and years. Counselling was mentioned at the very beginning of the recent campaign in Sosua.

Rejoin society ? I don't think they have left it.
They are mostly doing this because there are no jobs, especially without a college degree and more so if your skin is more black.
Those lucky enough to get a 'good" job survive on $400/month and consider themselves lucky to buy a used scooter and have an old tube type TV.
Forget cable, or WiFi or 24/7 electricity and a two burner gas cook-top means they can warm water for Ramen soup which many of their children survive on.
Prostitution is not a career choice it's a way of survival for many and I, for one. don't look down on them.
But I do look down on the cheap mongers who treat them like dirt and roam around in groups acting like hoards of conquering Vikings plundering disposable people.
 

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DdelR reports there will be another meeting:
ATENCI?N A TODOS NUESTROS MUN?CIPES
Sala capitular de Sos?a conocer? sesi?n a las 4:00 PM de hoy, entre los puntos a tratar est? el de la construcci?n de una bomba de expendio de gasolina en la entrada Maranatha y la situaci?n de calle pedro Clisante, temas que por escrito fueron solicitados por los tres regidores de la oposicion.
 

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Rejoin society ? I don't think they have left it.
They are mostly doing this because there are no jobs, especially without a college degree and more so if your skin is more black.
Those lucky enough to get a 'good" job survive on $400/month and consider themselves lucky to buy a used scooter and have an old tube type TV.
Forget cable, or WiFi or 24/7 electricity and a two burner gas cook-top means they can warm water for Ramen soup which many of their children survive on.
Prostitution is not a career choice it's a way of survival for many and I, for one. don't look down on them.
But I do look down on the cheap mongers who treat them like dirt and roam around in groups acting like hoards of conquering Vikings plundering disposable people.

Read!

http://acento.com.do/2016/politica/...anuncia-proyecto-ley-prevenir-trabajo-sexual/

http://hoy.com.do/jacqueline-montero-la-ex-prostituta-que-espera-revolucionar-el-congreso-de-rd/

This lady, and now Congresswoman, knows a darn sight more about prostitution in the DR and its roots than your presumptions. I wish her success with her project and hopefully she gets round to enlightening a few of the mongers like you and those who come to these shores as sex tourists seeking out such vulnerable women to go look elsewhere.

You are not knights in shining armor....no the contrary imo.
 

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Read!

http://acento.com.do/2016/politica/...anuncia-proyecto-ley-prevenir-trabajo-sexual/

http://hoy.com.do/jacqueline-montero-la-ex-prostituta-que-espera-revolucionar-el-congreso-de-rd/

This lady, and now Congresswoman, knows a darn sight more about prostitution in the DR and its roots than your presumptions. I wish her success with her project and hopefully she gets round to enlightening a few of the mongers like you and those who come to these shores as sex tourists seeking out such vulnerable women to go look elsewhere.

You are not knights in shining armor....no the contrary imo.

It's interesting. I do not go to the bars in the DR but I had 15 requests this week from friends of friends on FB for "dates". I have a girlfriend, they know it but I still get the calls. There is desperation out there, this contact has increased 5 fold over the past few months.
 

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It's interesting. I do not go to the bars in the DR but I had 15 requests this week from friends of friends on FB for "dates". I have a girlfriend, they know it but I still get the calls. There is desperation out there, this contact has increased 5 fold over the past few months.

They know where there is 'booty' then.