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American Teacher Murdered in Cabarete
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I think you really need to read the FBI statistics on crime before you spout such nonsense. I really can't believe people see the world this way in 2019. If a crime is committed against you it is most likely by someone who looks like you. Look it up my friend
Why so? The people who want to present DR as no more dangerous than any other place on Earth always go on and on how "crime happens everywhere, this could've happened anywhere bla bla bla" and then when I actually compare the DR numbers and the anywhere numbers you say "Apples and oranges". Yes, crime does happen everywhere, but in some places it happens much less or much more than other places. And in DR it happens much more than in a lot of other places.
"...the murder rate remains approximately 12.5/100,000, which places it among the most murderous 10-15% of countries in the world." But let's not compare DR to any other countries in the world, because that's apples and oranges.
No problem just pointing out that the article is wrong ...I didn't think you wrote the article...
Statistics are infinitely manipulable. Unless one knows how the data was collected, who collected it and how it was correlated, you really can't rely on the numbers themselves or any calculations performed with them.
We see how C.O.E. manipulates the accidental death numbers after major holidays thus I have little problem suspecting that other stats in this country are a bit fast and very loose. For the purpose of crime reporting in this country, was the lady in Cabarete listed as a robbery, murder or both? The answer to that determines the overall accuracy of the numbers when published at a later date.
Comparisons become apples and oranges when inferences are drawn between this country and "major US cities" with a population several times larger than here. How many murders occur in Chicago on a given weekend has no relevant correlation to the number of murders in Guatemala or the Dominican Republic over any given period of time.
At best, if you believe the numbers offered by the authorities here, a death rate per 100,000 in population is as close as we come to a reflective comparison. If those correlated numbers show more deaths in the DR than in a more populated country with a higher total of murders, then you kind of have to accept that the DR is statistically more dangerous.
Regardless, those population related stats do not reflect the actual risk to any one particular individual or group of individuals within a population. Many factors come into play some of which are determined by the criminals themselves. Certainly in the DR, the vast majority of crime is Dom on Dom. That's an obvious supposition. It would be interesting to know the average number of foreigners who are killed as a result of crime in this country. Of course, we'll never know because those particular figures are not released in favor of them being buried in the overall number of crime related deaths. It is a perceptual fact that many Dominicans see foreigners being wealthier than they are or will ever be. We all know how stereotypes can be wrong but they exist none-the-less. All things being equal, given a choice between an average foreign resident and your average Dominican as a potential target of crime, the choice by the ladrone would heavily lean in the direction of the foreigner.
I do not think there are 100,000 foreigners living permanently in this country so if we ever did get the actual numbers for several consecutive years and extrapolated to get per 100,000 in population results, I think that would be quite telling for a country of just 11 or 12 million people.
I don't have the numbers so I can't say with any certainty that foreigners are a targeted class of victim in this country but I do think it to be possible that when compared against Dominican victims and weighted correctly, foreigners could be disproportionately at risk for violent crime in this country if they come across the right people in the wrong place at the wrong time.
We see how C.O.E. manipulates the accidental death numbers after major holidays thus I have little problem suspecting that other stats in this country are a bit fast and very loose. For the purpose of crime reporting in this country, was the lady in Cabarete listed as a robbery, murder or both? The answer to that determines the overall accuracy of the numbers when published at a later date.
Comparisons become apples and oranges when inferences are drawn between this country and "major US cities" with a population several times larger than here. How many murders occur in Chicago on a given weekend has no relevant correlation to the number of murders in Guatemala or the Dominican Republic over any given period of time.
At best, if you believe the numbers offered by the authorities here, a death rate per 100,000 in population is as close as we come to a reflective comparison. If those correlated numbers show more deaths in the DR than in a more populated country with a higher total of murders, then you kind of have to accept that the DR is statistically more dangerous.
Regardless, those population related stats do not reflect the actual risk to any one particular individual or group of individuals within a population. Many factors come into play some of which are determined by the criminals themselves. Certainly in the DR, the vast majority of crime is Dom on Dom. That's an obvious supposition. It would be interesting to know the average number of foreigners who are killed as a result of crime in this country. Of course, we'll never know because those particular figures are not released in favor of them being buried in the overall number of crime related deaths. It is a perceptual fact that many Dominicans see foreigners being wealthier than they are or will ever be. We all know how stereotypes can be wrong but they exist none-the-less. All things being equal, given a choice between an average foreign resident and your average Dominican as a potential target of crime, the choice by the ladrone would heavily lean in the direction of the foreigner.
I do not think there are 100,000 foreigners living permanently in this country so if we ever did get the actual numbers for several consecutive years and extrapolated to get per 100,000 in population results, I think that would be quite telling for a country of just 11 or 12 million people.
I don't have the numbers so I can't say with any certainty that foreigners are a targeted class of victim in this country but I do think it to be possible that when compared against Dominican victims and weighted correctly, foreigners could be disproportionately at risk for violent crime in this country if they come across the right people in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Yea well, still a commonwealth of the U.S. regardless of what "they" consider themselves. If it was up to me I'd gladly give Puerto Rico it's full independence (want it or not).
I want what you are smoking.
How many murders did Chicago have in 2018?
According to preliminary police numbers, in Chicago, the third largest city in the U.S., there were 561 homicides between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31, 2018. That's a decline of about 100 murders compared to 2017.Jan 2, 2019
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