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[SantiagoDR]

Very few people here see beyond the "paths most taken" and never see the "paths not taken" when they make judgments about what is and what is not real.

Few see the poverty located between the streets.
I'm sure some would be amazed at what exists between two parallel streets.

As I have said before, going from one street to the next one there is sometimes a maze of poverty that is unseen from either of the two streets. Driving around and looking from the streets won't show you the real story in some cases.

To the West of where the "Bandarita" turns around, past the firehouse in Cienfuego there is another fairly new development where the people are building out of scrap wood their homes. This area was opened up by the government recently and it was a land grab, first come first serve, squatters rights. People had to stay there 24/7 or lose the land they marked off. The roads are dirt, and will be for many years before it gets beyond that. Not a place to go when it rains.

I agree with LaTeacher about Cienfuego.

 

[LaTeacher]

Hey SantiagoDR, that's Villa Rosa, I work in that area, come visit our school sometime - we're right in front of the baseball pitch.

 

[AlterEgo]

One thing that we noticed this trip is the creativity in utilizing used wood shipping pallets. People are building houses from them, and we passed a house that was making [and selling] outdoor patio-type furniture made out of the pallet wood. Kind of reminded me of Adirondack chairs.

Gotta admire their ingenuity.

 

[frank recktenwald]

One thing that we noticed this trip is the creativity in utilizing used wood shipping pallets. People are building houses from them, and we passed a house that was making [and selling] outdoor patio-type furniture made out of the pallet wood. Kind of reminded me of Adirondack chairs.

Gotta admire their ingenuity.

AE, if you would lack what these poor people lack you'd come up with the same ingenuity, it's human nature

 

[Chip]

at the same time, you can't blame people's lack of foresight - generational poverty has stipped them of the ability to think about the future.

With all due respect it's difficult to think of the future when one's income barely covers the necessities. This is a worldwide phenomenon.

 

[Criss Colon]

First "chip" thanks for your latest,"News Flash!"
We didn't know that there were poor people all around the world,NOT JUST in the DR!!!
Second,"La Teach",let me go wayout on a narrow limb here,and say that I probably have more "Experience" with prostitutes in general,and Dominican Prostitutes in particular,than you do????
Your innocents is showing,if you believe that "poverty/or Extreme Poverty",if you choose,makes women "Sell Themselves" to feed,shelter,and clothe their families.
Women,"turn to prostitution" because,they have no self-esteem,moral /religeous upbringing,are addicted to "Drugs","Peer Presure", "Forced" by "relatives/family", are lazy,and it is an easy way to make money,or a combination of "All The Above".
The money they recieve for sexual acts,does not,in large part,go to their children/families,ESPECIALLY in the DR,where there is a "Culture" of having your mother,raise her grandchildren.
The money goes for,Drugs & Booze,clothes and shoes,"Hair & Nails",food for themselves and their fellow "Ladies","Pimps,male,AND female!,
They go back "Home",on "El Dia De Las Madres",and "Semana Santa",with a little bit of money,that the borrow for the occasion, to give to their "Mami",who raises ther kids alone the rest of the year!
"POVERTY" is the last,and lamest" excuse that a woman hes to prostitute herself!!!!!
Wanna know "Why?"
Because the vast majority of women in the same economic living conditions,"DON'T"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BUT, Whatever their "Reason",I'm just glad they do,and for such small amounts of money too!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chip]

CC I appreciate your admiration for me but you really probably have better things to do than follow me around this forum. :bandit:

 

[Criss Colon]

Not Really,most everyone likes to go to the "zoo",and watch the monkeys urinating all over themselves!!!!
Lets see,it's either,"Follow chip around DR1 making a fool out of him,ORRRRRRRRRRRR,"Buying & Selling Commodities" on line????????????
It's cheaper,and easier,more fun,and I'm more successful,"following chip around DR1"!!!!!!!
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[waytogo]

CC I appreciate your admiration for me but you really probably have better things to do than follow me around this forum. :bandit:

I thought Don was doing that.....there are more than 1 ????

B in Santiago

 

[Criss Colon]

"Paranoia" seems to be more prevalent in Santiago than colera these days!
"Not that there isn't a lot of colera everywhere in the world,even the UNITED STATES!!!"....Right chip?????
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[SantiagoDR]

Hey SantiagoDR, that's Villa Rosa, I work in that area, come visit our school sometime - we're right in front of the baseball pitch.

Maybe tomorrow I will get a chance, you are basically behind the Hospital more or less?
Does the school have a sign displayed?

I just got my car back today after 2 days of repairs from pothole damage.
I have to re-populate my car with all the junk I took out before taking it in for service.

Are you talking about the area to the West between the hospital and the fire department, then that is not the area. Or the area before the Hospital? If I remember correctly there is a ball field just before the Hospital and to the West.

The area I am referring to is just past the fire department, and to the West.

You will first come to a regular settlement for two or three blocks after turning West from the main road, then the big open area with the new scrap wood construction will appear. Unless you know it's there you will never see it.

Darn, directions are so hard in the D.R. :smoke: lol

I was looking for some pictures I took of the area, I posted then a while back, can't find them on this computer. Will try to find them on DR1 (Yeah, good luck with that).... lol

I did find the pictures from Tropical storm Olga of the poverty homes flooded out from the opening of the dam.

 

[LaTeacher]

CC, it's true what you say - but poverty destroys self-esteem as well, and therefore is one of the causes of women turning to prostitution. There is also a culture of desperate mothers selling their young daughters into prostitution b ecause they don't know what else to do with them.

and what do you call women who find the first dumb gringo to sleep with? they're trying to enhance their economic income - to me that's prostitution - selling their sex for money, even if it's a little more covert than in other situations.

i'm glad someone will sleep with you CC, even if you have to pay for it. i can't imagine what you'd be like if you weren't taken care of.

First "chip" thanks for your latest,"News Flash!"
We didn't know that there were poor people all around the world,NOT JUST in the DR!!!
Second,"La Teach",let me go wayout on a narrow limb here,and say that I probably have more "Experience" with prostitutes in general,and Dominican Prostitutes in particular,than you do????
Your innocents is showing,if you believe that "poverty/or Extreme Poverty",if you choose,makes women "Sell Themselves" to feed,shelter,and clothe their families.
Women,"turn to prostitution" because,they have no self-esteem,moral /religeous upbringing,are addicted to "Drugs","Peer Presure", "Forced" by "relatives/family", are lazy,and it is an easy way to make money,or a combination of "All The Above".
The money they recieve for sexual acts,does not,in large part,go to their children/families,ESPECIALLY in the DR,where there is a "Culture" of having your mother,raise her grandchildren.
The money goes for,Drugs & Booze,clothes and shoes,"Hair & Nails",food for themselves and their fellow "Ladies","Pimps,male,AND female!,
They go back "Home",on "El Dia De Las Madres",and "Semana Santa",with a little bit of money,that the borrow for the occasion, to give to their "Mami",who raises ther kids alone the rest of the year!
"POVERTY" is the last,and lamest" excuse that a woman hes to prostitute herself!!!!!
Wanna know "Why?"
Because the vast majority of women in the same economic living conditions,"DON'T"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BUT, Whatever their "Reason",I'm just glad they do,and for such small amounts of money too!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[frank recktenwald]

CC, it's true what you say - but poverty destroys self-esteem as well, and therefore is one of the causes of women turning to prostitution. There is also a culture of desperate mothers selling their young daughters into prostitution b ecause they don't know what else to do with them.

and what do you call women who find the first dumb gringo to sleep with? they're trying to enhance their economic income - to me that's prostitution - selling their sex for money, even if it's a little more covert than in other situations.

i'm glad someone will sleep with you CC, even if you have to pay for it. i can't imagine what you'd be like if you weren't taken care of.

And we don't wanna know. LMAO

 

[Criss Colon]

"First Dumb Gringo",????????????????????????????????
"Dumb",let's see,a fat,bald,,ugly,smelly,unkempt, bearded,cheap,uneducated,old,"viagra" popping,"Gringo",gets to have repeated "unprotected",sex,with a teenaged,beautiful,long haired,
sexy,hard bodied,soft skinned,wonderful smelling,"Dominican Prostitute" for 500 pesos? :lick::laugh::laugh::laugh:
That, sounds "Smart" to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abusive,maybe,but "Dumb",not-so-much!
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[LaTeacher]

you make an excellent point.

but only if fat, bald,ugly, smelly nasty old man doesn't fall in love... then it's just dumb

"First Dumb Gringo",????????????????????????????????
"Dumb",let's see,a fat,bald,,ugly,smelly,unkempt, bearded,cheap,uneducated,old,"viagra" popping,"Gringo",gets to have repeated "unprotected",sex,with a teenaged,beautiful,long haired,
sexy,hard bodied,soft skinned,wonderful smelling,"Dominican Prostitute" for 500 pesos? :lick::laugh::laugh::laugh:
That, sounds "Smart" to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abusive,maybe,but "Dumb",not-so-much!
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[PICHARDO]

NALs:

Yep!





You should stick to the "Polls" forum so it's easier to ignore you.

Funny! When we have close to 20% of the population as Haitian born or of Haitian ancesty by no more than one to three generations. Funny again, dare I say, when Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere, a failed state and pretty much among the poorest in the world!

Now, you want reality? Let's talk facts and not hearsay!

 

[Criss Colon]

"P"
Haitians/Dominicans,same "Gene Pool",so what's your problem?????
Can't accept your own "ROOTS"????
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"LaTeach",yo are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo right!
If you had only been able to teach me the HUGE diference between "love",and SEX,I could have saved 30 years,and 250,000 US dollars!
By the way,
Do you know the difference between "True Love",and "Herpes"?????????
"Herpes" lasts Forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :laugh:

 

[donP]

Home for the brothers

(...) Haiti is (...) a failed state (...)

No wonder, that Haitians feel at home here. :squareeye


donP

 

[Criss Colon]

"Don,DON",the DR is NOT,"A Failed State"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How Dare You!!!
The DR,is a VERY SUCCESSFUL STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Narco State"!!!!
That makes a lot of police,military,and especially "POLITICOS",VERY SUCCESSFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[PICHARDO]

Funny! When we have close to 20% of the population as Haitian born or of Haitian ancesty by no more than one to three generations. Funny again, dare I say, when Haiti is the poorest country in the western hemisphere, a failed state and pretty much among the poorest in the world!

Now, you want reality? Let's talk facts and not hearsay!

Funny that all they got to go on to refute the facts is... MORE Blah, blah, blah...