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Anyone familiar with a community in Verón PC Ciudad del Sol?
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To answer a few questions. First and foremost. Thanks to everyone for taking time out to respond. Ok here are the answers. No I do not live in D.R. I visit for about 3-4 months total for the year. We have been seeing each other long distance for 5 years and I simply spend a few months there out of the year. We rent an apartment in Verón at this moment. She pays for the internet and a portion of the rent. She also has a steady job in currency exchange at a company in PC. I have decided to the fiancé visa thing since I have been married before and not too hesitant to go down that road again. For the most part we get along fine, but she can be a bit impulsive and does not always take the time to think things through. No sort of planning. I do not know if it is just cultural thing or what, but I have noticed for the most part they just react and not often think of their actions. I hope this answers most questions. There are no kids by either one of us, and I did not meet her at a resort. I met her through acquaintances. Thanks again
As I said , go with your instincts ....but I would say that there is a big difference between living here and visiting for 3-4 months per year .
The thing about DR is that sometimes you only get to see the whole picture ( and people's true cololurs) when things go wrong .
You are right for not wanting to part with your money too easily . Speaks volumes if she doesn't agree with this approach IMO . When in doubt ask yourself "what would a Dominican do ?" ...and you might have the answers right in front of you .
8 to 10 grand is the price of a second-hand car here so hardly a life changing amount.
It's always a good idea when putting money into a foreign country to only put in what you can afford to walk away from.
You would probably be better off getting something already built if you want to go down that road, but as many have already mentioned,considering your partner as a viable source of trust and advice is a path laden with many pitfalls.If you don't need local financing, anything can be put directly into your name anyway.It is not required to be a resident or citizen.
It's always a good idea when putting money into a foreign country to only put in what you can afford to walk away from.
You would probably be better off getting something already built if you want to go down that road, but as many have already mentioned,considering your partner as a viable source of trust and advice is a path laden with many pitfalls.If you don't need local financing, anything can be put directly into your name anyway.It is not required to be a resident or citizen.
Superpana trust me she has a boyfriends, and you will lose your money... its life here... It's a game they play how much money can i get from the gringo.. how times was it her birthday this past year? she need money to help her family..
Etc Etc etc when you are not here she is drinking on the corner with her boyfriend
Don't mean to sound harsh but its the reality here..... did you buy her a paso yet?
Etc Etc etc when you are not here she is drinking on the corner with her boyfriend
Don't mean to sound harsh but its the reality here..... did you buy her a paso yet?
So you have lived in Veron (ugh) ... then You get what you deserve. Why did you even put this on our forum? To me complete waste of our time and intelligence in trying to give you our sincerest advice. 👇👎
Actually dropped the son of a relative off there as he was temporarily living there while working in one of the resorts as an accountant. Seemed to be lots of Haitians there. Wouldn't be my choice to live there but it was much better than a few parts of Santo Domingo that I have been in. The OP is obviously familiar with the town.
Right. I don't know about the "lots if Haitians" but, as I go to a really excellent (imho) plant nursery there, I usually (was there yesterday) swear every single time I need to go there (not frequently..but frequently enough) that I will never drive there again. It is chaotic, dirty, the usual...crazy crazy drivers cars, motorcyles, bikes ..no plan for the hoardes of mish mash. And this is taking the autopista. Used to take the old road up to Veron..and that is a whole other take of potholes, double triple parked cars, trucks, buses etc etc. so anyway when OP finally said he lives part time in Veron..in my mind I decided he needed no more guidance cause he knows the drill there. And by the way I have in another thread mentioned that there is apparently much crime and violence. This has been mentioned on Bavaro Digital very frequently.
Superpana trust me she has a boyfriends, and you will lose your money... its life here... It's a game they play how much money can i get from the gringo.. how times was it her birthday this past year? she need money to help her family..
Etc Etc etc when you are not here she is drinking on the corner with her boyfriend
Don't mean to sound harsh but its the reality here..... did you buy her a paso yet?
Actually I must say, in 5 years she has rarely asked for anything. I have not bought her a pasola and she has taken me out to eat a few times. Last year she had a modest birthday surprise party for me with her entire family since she knew I would not be home to celebrate in the states. Her brother lives across the street from us and works a honest job along with his wife. Anything is possible in this life, but I do not get that vibe from her or her family. They don't ask for anything and they are always accommodating when I'm there. They don't need anything from me since they all work and make their own money. I actually have to admit, they treat me more than a treat them as hard as that might be to believe.
Etc Etc etc when you are not here she is drinking on the corner with her boyfriend
Don't mean to sound harsh but its the reality here..... did you buy her a paso yet?
Actually I must say, in 5 years she has rarely asked for anything. I have not bought her a pasola and she has taken me out to eat a few times. Last year she had a modest birthday surprise party for me with her entire family since she knew I would not be home to celebrate in the states. Her brother lives across the street from us and works a honest job along with his wife. Anything is possible in this life, but I do not get that vibe from her or her family. They don't ask for anything and they are always accommodating when I'm there. They don't need anything from me since they all work and make their own money. I actually have to admit, they treat me more than a treat them as hard as that might be to believe.
I'm simply asking a question from folks who have a bit more experience than I do. I do not live in Veròn I live in the states. Verón is simply the place where I stay at when I'm there. I hardly consider 3 months out of the year living. I have been out an about in the area, and there is a bit of everything there, good and bad. I see hard working folks who have fairly nice houses, as well as not so nice. My reason for seeking advice is to get a better idea from those with more knowledge. Would it have not been more foolish to simply act and then have you bash me later on for not seeking advice first??? My apologies if you felt I wasted your time, but I believe it takes a wise man to admit what he does not know and seek information as opposed to believing he does and fail miserably.
I think everyone here has your best interest at heart and they mean well. Now, with that being said I feel that, perhaps, your case might be a little different. I do say this very carefully, though. If you say you guys have been together for about 5 years and she has not pressured you into bringing her to the states then I have to wonder. Also, you say her family treats you more than you treat them? Everyone in this forum knows that is usually NEVER the case. Hell, not even family treats you when you go visit (for the most part).
My advice will always be to be careful and think things through 100 times before you commit. At the end of the day you know this woman more than any of us and have a better idea if she can be trusted or not. From what you are telling us she sounds legit because I don't know of many Dominicans who will invest their time and or energy for 5 years in the hopes that they could get something from you later. Most Dominicans want everything 'NOW' and not later.
Now, in my opinion I would take the chance bringing her to the states and then see what happens. The least you'll lose is your time and some cash (what you'll invest bringing her to the states) if things don't work out and you can move on with your life. But if you put your hard earned money in property in DR and things go south...well, you do the math.
It's your choice.
Thanks for the advice defender. The problem is not really with her or if she trustworthy. I posed the question on the forum more on the lines of transparency when purchasing land in D.R. I have never ventured down that road, but at the same time I do read about all the shenanigans regarding fake property deeds, realtors, and lawyers who are easily swayed into doctoring documents amongst other things. My girl has not pressured me into any sort of purchase, she simply heard from a few coworkers that a new development in that area was beginning to sell plots of land for those who in the future would like to build on. I'm always very thorough in all my dealings and simply said: I'm not in any rush to invest in land ownership in D.R. due to the many pitfalls that await unsuspecting gringos; Heck I have seen even Dominicans living abroad get duped into such purchases. I recall an incident a few years back when some Dominicans from Washington heights N.Y. got duped into purchasing some property in Pueblo Bavaro, only to end up losing their hard earned savings in so called piece of paradise! And most recently there was a story on Noticias SIN where someone sold an entire neighborhood in the capital, even after those folks have been living there for years!
I truly appreciate everyone's input, especially since there are no punches pulled on this site, the advice is always honest and raw. The advice I'm seeking is more on a legal basis. I'm not married to this young lady, but I simply believe that she is more thinking along the lines of: If we are going to be together for the next few years, then why keep paying rent instead of owning something that will eventually be ours. I'm no mind reader, and believe me when I say there is good and bad women everywhere, but I honestly think her train of thought was more along the lines of: why should we keep giving money to someone else instead of putting it toward not having to do that one day. She has not brought it up again and understands my reservations. I simply said: I do not feel there is enough transparency here for me to feel comfortable making a purchase, much homework would need to be done first! I have friends that have purchased apartments in gated Bavaro communities and so far no issues, but we all know how things can go from good to bad rather quickly.
I truly appreciate everyone's input, especially since there are no punches pulled on this site, the advice is always honest and raw. The advice I'm seeking is more on a legal basis. I'm not married to this young lady, but I simply believe that she is more thinking along the lines of: If we are going to be together for the next few years, then why keep paying rent instead of owning something that will eventually be ours. I'm no mind reader, and believe me when I say there is good and bad women everywhere, but I honestly think her train of thought was more along the lines of: why should we keep giving money to someone else instead of putting it toward not having to do that one day. She has not brought it up again and understands my reservations. I simply said: I do not feel there is enough transparency here for me to feel comfortable making a purchase, much homework would need to be done first! I have friends that have purchased apartments in gated Bavaro communities and so far no issues, but we all know how things can go from good to bad rather quickly.
Correct ! Been there done that. ...got scars to prove it ...let's just say if you are having these doubts about her or about the ' investment' situation ..you would be wise to take heed . With the right person the doubts should be zero or minimal beacuse that person would have as much to loose as you have ...Just because she never asked for anything in since you've been together maybe tells you she is a nice gf but it doesn't qualify her as a co-investor in a property deal . Maybe that's the big prize...waiting to happen .
Now , if you come with 50 and she comes with 50 then maybe - but I would still sleep with one eye open .
Both Katep and I live in Ciudad la Palmas. I bought a house and to be honest, at first i was suspicious about the development, but in hindsight...the best decision I have made in years. It is clean, the people living here are courtious and polite...no blaring music...etc. The constuction is good. The drive into Bavaro is super easy. It takes me 25 minutes of 4 lane driving to Bavaro Bilingual School. It took me 17 minutes of speed bumps and gate clearance to get my daughters to school when living in Cocotal (much closer).
Personally, I would not buy a lot in an undeveloped area. I would liken that to buying a blank canvas and expecting a masterpiece eventually. Maybe you will...maybe you won't.
As for Del Sol, I see it as the first step of a big improvement for Veron. You have to start somewhere! The area aound it is decent, with the government offices and the likes. Yes...the present day traffic is..well...Dominican. But you have to look forward. There is huge growth in the region and not only in resorts and housing. The retail sector is definately upscale, which says something about the type of people they want living (investing) here.
Many here keep looking in the rearview mirror. Seems nothing ever worked for many of you! And of course, it was the fault of the country and its people...never anything to do with you personally. Not pointing fingers...just making an observation. I met my wife on a bus. It has been 10 years now... 2 kids with her, a house, a couple cars and motorcycles. I came to this country with next to nothing in 2005. Not every Dominican woman or man is what many of you paint them to be and quite personally, if that is the way you think, I cannot see you truely enjoying this country and have to wonder...why are you living here?
Personally, I would not buy a lot in an undeveloped area. I would liken that to buying a blank canvas and expecting a masterpiece eventually. Maybe you will...maybe you won't.
As for Del Sol, I see it as the first step of a big improvement for Veron. You have to start somewhere! The area aound it is decent, with the government offices and the likes. Yes...the present day traffic is..well...Dominican. But you have to look forward. There is huge growth in the region and not only in resorts and housing. The retail sector is definately upscale, which says something about the type of people they want living (investing) here.
Many here keep looking in the rearview mirror. Seems nothing ever worked for many of you! And of course, it was the fault of the country and its people...never anything to do with you personally. Not pointing fingers...just making an observation. I met my wife on a bus. It has been 10 years now... 2 kids with her, a house, a couple cars and motorcycles. I came to this country with next to nothing in 2005. Not every Dominican woman or man is what many of you paint them to be and quite personally, if that is the way you think, I cannot see you truely enjoying this country and have to wonder...why are you living here?
of course your not going to get that vibe they are all in on it.....I seen it happen manys times here ..you better off going to the casino and putting 10k on red a least you get a shot at double your money, but do what you want let me know how it works out for you.
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