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"Oh and by the way, I forgot to tell you. The Fee we charge ( currently us $7500 but will go back to us$9000 at Xmas "................STOP IT FOR GOD'S SAKES I CAN'T BREATH I'M LAUGHING SO HARD!!!!!!!
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Australia - Jobs for Dominicans!
Oh what a pity. Having actually felt this company was genuine and feeling that Mr. Pleasance should be congratulated for the detail in his response, this is one of those rare occasions :surprised when I find myself agreeing with CC that the tetchiness in the response was not a good idea from a company which is selling a service. Engaging brain before responding is indeed sound advice, and it is a great shame that Mr. Pleasance was probably too tired after his long email to remember it. The wise company leaves certain things unsaid in the interests of promoting a professional image. Whilst the tetchiness is understandable a professional company needs to rise above that and not respond as if it was a boxing ring, since the potential clientele should have sufficient English in this case to see it and make judgements accordingly.
I went looking for the DR1 equivalent for Australia so anyone interested in moving there could ask questions. No Oz1 that I could find but there are a number of sites which have Forums and info and where questions can be asked. Perhaps @llo Expat Australia is the nearest (that Rocky gets everywhere!)
Immigration in Australia - Visa to Australia - Allo' Expat Australia
Go Matilda is a commercial migration/visa company but it does have latest Migration Occupations in Demand List
http://www.gomatilda.com/news/documents/1-402-1.pdf
and Forums
The Go Matilda Forums - Powered by eve community
So does British Expat
British Expat Australia Forum :: Index
Also Monster
Monster Forums
Also Mates Upover whilst for Australians abroad does also have info
Homepage for Australian Expats in the US at Matesupover
Just wanted to give people some free alternatives where they can ask questions in the same way people do on DR1.
I went looking for the DR1 equivalent for Australia so anyone interested in moving there could ask questions. No Oz1 that I could find but there are a number of sites which have Forums and info and where questions can be asked. Perhaps @llo Expat Australia is the nearest (that Rocky gets everywhere!)
Immigration in Australia - Visa to Australia - Allo' Expat Australia
Go Matilda is a commercial migration/visa company but it does have latest Migration Occupations in Demand List
http://www.gomatilda.com/news/documents/1-402-1.pdf
and Forums
The Go Matilda Forums - Powered by eve community
So does British Expat
British Expat Australia Forum :: Index
Also Monster
Monster Forums
Also Mates Upover whilst for Australians abroad does also have info
Homepage for Australian Expats in the US at Matesupover
Just wanted to give people some free alternatives where they can ask questions in the same way people do on DR1.
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Many times on the forum have we advised new prospective DR residents to use an attorney for the first round of residency applications in the DR. Usually the person already is in the country, usually the person qualifies (as the DR qualification requirements are very low), and usually the residency goes through without a hitch -- assuming there is sufficient plastic sleeves to make the actual residency card. 
A local lawyer usually has staff trained on the procedures of residency here. This company functions the same way, I would think.
I for one do not find these fees exhorbitant, I find the structure of the offer good in as much as one pays for the stage that you are in, and you don't have to plonk all the moolah down up front. Also, this is a family package really and if you consider how much you paid for your family to get permanent residence in the DR, the fee is not exhorbitant.
Perhaps also the responders in this thread have not taken into account that there are many people that cannot get to grips with the extremely difficult processes that migration to another country requires. I believe when we first came to the US, the fees were not much different and we did it ourselves as it was not difficult due to family connections.
I find it heartening that countries such as Australia tries to attract qualified immigrants. This type of business is also not new to me, as there are a number of these in my country of origin dealing with qualified immigrants to Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other countries seeking 'man'power. Where I come from the braindrain has continued for around 25 years now.
I don't think it is any Government's duty to run qualified immigrant programs. This type of organization, to my way of thinking, plays a positive role for those countries seeking qualified immigrants. They learn the way of the country of origin of the immigrants, and by the looks of it, run a good supporting program on the other side. And yes, it costs money. In this instance, not a great deal of money, and if a Dominican qualifies, their chances of success is certainly better than the 'yola' route.
Also, if a country deals badly with their qualified people, the country deserves to lose them to a more conducive environment.
Despite the unfortunate sentence in Mr Pleasance's reply (which I agree should not have found its way into a professional response), I don't think this company is necessarily a shyster outfit. It would be good for any Dominican thinking of doing this, to first establish their own qualification, before they put money on the table.
If a Dominican thinks of going this route, by all means figure out if you can do it yourself first. If you cannot, it would be prudent to research this company a little more, i.e., how many immmigrants have they placed successfully. But by all means, go for it. Dominicans Down Under, indeed! You'll be in good company with all my countrymen down there.
A local lawyer usually has staff trained on the procedures of residency here. This company functions the same way, I would think. I for one do not find these fees exhorbitant, I find the structure of the offer good in as much as one pays for the stage that you are in, and you don't have to plonk all the moolah down up front. Also, this is a family package really and if you consider how much you paid for your family to get permanent residence in the DR, the fee is not exhorbitant.
Perhaps also the responders in this thread have not taken into account that there are many people that cannot get to grips with the extremely difficult processes that migration to another country requires. I believe when we first came to the US, the fees were not much different and we did it ourselves as it was not difficult due to family connections.
I find it heartening that countries such as Australia tries to attract qualified immigrants. This type of business is also not new to me, as there are a number of these in my country of origin dealing with qualified immigrants to Australia, New Zealand, Canada and other countries seeking 'man'power. Where I come from the braindrain has continued for around 25 years now.
I don't think it is any Government's duty to run qualified immigrant programs. This type of organization, to my way of thinking, plays a positive role for those countries seeking qualified immigrants. They learn the way of the country of origin of the immigrants, and by the looks of it, run a good supporting program on the other side. And yes, it costs money. In this instance, not a great deal of money, and if a Dominican qualifies, their chances of success is certainly better than the 'yola' route.
Also, if a country deals badly with their qualified people, the country deserves to lose them to a more conducive environment.
Despite the unfortunate sentence in Mr Pleasance's reply (which I agree should not have found its way into a professional response), I don't think this company is necessarily a shyster outfit. It would be good for any Dominican thinking of doing this, to first establish their own qualification, before they put money on the table.
If a Dominican thinks of going this route, by all means figure out if you can do it yourself first. If you cannot, it would be prudent to research this company a little more, i.e., how many immmigrants have they placed successfully. But by all means, go for it. Dominicans Down Under, indeed!
You'll be in good company with all my countrymen down there.
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$7,500 (soon to go to $9,000), not exhorbitant?
$7,500, just for fees?
That's assuming you take them at their word. Also there's no mention as to the fees PRIME NETWORK AUSTRALIA charges.
I agree, they may not be shysters, but the fees they charge seem exhorbinant.
How many times have you done this in your life? How many people have you known who emigrated to Australia, Canada or New Zealand. How much are the governmental fees for the process?. How much would it be if you used an immigration lawyer to do this process for you and your family? What do we pay at a DR consul to translate paperwork into Spanish?
You can obviously think what you want, but you're not basing your thinking on knowing the facts of these processes. I have been trying to remember what it cost us as a family many years ago to come to the US. As best as I can remember, it was around 1,500 dollars per person, doing all ourselves - which was easy because of family connections and we did not need a supporting structure, again, because of family connections. We were three people. That would be US$4,500. If we needed a laywer to do it for us, it could easily have doubled. The residency process in the DR with an attorney for a family of 4, cost us US$1,500 each, soup to nuts - using a lawyer and being led through the process. This is a total of US$6,000. We were in the country and had our paperwork well prepared and ready.
For a person / family that needs support with paperwork and process, and needs an assessment whether they qualify or not, I do not find the fees for the service, exhorbitant.
With businesses such as these a known entitity where I come from, I have some basis to think that the fees are not exorbitant. Some of our family emigrated to New Zealand and I know for a fact they had to put up a bond of US$30,000 to support their immigration process (This was about 10 years ago). And this was not the fees in processing the applications.
I don't find you putting forward facts to support your 'thinking' that this is an exhorbitant fee. (I am not talking for the company in question as I do not know them from a bar of soap).
I am not sure to what part your referring but that CIA website states the
At 1.76 it is well below the replacement fertility rate of 2.1.
Since you referred to a population decline, I was focusing on the population growth rate of .85% (sorry, I should have been clearer).
That's true, but that would only mean a population decline if the mortality rate was greater than the birth rate (and the migration rate was zero).
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Friends of mine have gone through the extended travel visa process and have been denied access on the grounds they may work there and on all occasions had to prove they had x amount of bucks in an Aussie bank. I personally had a contract with an Aussie general contractor because he specifically wanted me to handle his projects in Sydney........nope.....denied...............BTW if you're Japanese no problem.......ha ha ha...better still....... Dominicano.
Just out of curiosity, how many have you lived, worked and gone through the residency process in Australia? How many have you actually been to Australia?
The diaspora from my country of origin took many people to Australia. I have helped fill out many forms for the drawn-out residency process. They're picky down there in terms of who they allow in. I have cousins there but have not visited.
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