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ju10prd

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I haven't seen the River Magajita lately so I won't comment on the veracity of that. The pictures Pichardo posted are Barrick's propagandda pictures. Here's my first hand testimony...Barrick is using up to 25000 gallons of water a minute off Hatillo Lake. They're quickly depleting the lake at very high pace. Here's a picture I took this past December.

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See those cement walls? About two years ago the water was about half way up that wall.

Here's another one.

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This part where there's now a road was all covered with water. The water used to be up to the tree line in the background. As a matter of fact right where I stood to take the picture is where the "Ferry Boat" used to be anchored. You can see it in this older picture.

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Your first photograph is very deceiving.

I used to be a regular visitor to the Presa de Hatillo and my last visit would have been over two years ago.

Your first photo was a clear memory and to be seen on the right as one passed the dam and headed to the small jetty with a couple of bars. It was the old dam concrete dam across the old river bed of the Rio Yuna. The actual dam to the lake is an earthfill dam and looking upstream you se an earth embankment with road along the top.....a road upon I have often parked my car and admired the view.

This Google Earth link below confirms my memory and makes me wonder why you used the first photograph at all. A photograph taken from the road on the earthfill dam is all that is needed to show drops in lake levels.

https://www.google.com.do/maps/plac...0x8eaf8838def1b6f5:0xa6020f24060df7e0!6m1!1e1

I have little doubt that the lake will have suffered from the long drought we had up to the end of last year and your subsequent pictures suggest some level loss but nothing very dramatic, and I so am beginning to doubt your argument that Barrick have taken lake water and had any effect on water levels.
 
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suarezn

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https://www.google.com.do/maps/plac...0x8eaf8838def1b6f5:0xa6020f24060df7e0!6m1!1e1

1st Photograph was of this....the old river course and dam......now dry for some time

Nope you're absolutely wrong. What you're talking about is that wall, but on the other side (which you would see on the right when you drove up to it). The reason you don't remember it this way is because that wall was at least half covered with water (up to the tree line) and now it's completely empty as you can see in the pic.

Several pics here. http://lamataarroceros.blogspot.com/2015/08/lago-de-hatillo-la-presa-o-lo-que-queda.html

http://remolacha.net/fotos-impactantes-imagenes-de-la-sequia-en-la-presa-de-hatillo/

In this page there are pics where you can clearly see that even as late as 2013 there was still water going up to the wall.

http://lacuevard.blogspot.com/2013/01/la-presa-de-hatillo-y-otros-lugares.html

We can discuss whether the water is disappearing due to drought, BG or both, but the fact is that it is disappearing.
 

wrecksum

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looks like 'tierra roja' to me

look at the adjacent soil.... same color

Not sure.
I'm not a miner but one of the Barrick engineers there told me that it's the tailings pool where they collect the nasty stuff.
Sounds feasible but I just do the pictures.It's really red and quite pretty, like a poisonous snake..
 

Derfish

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Not sure.
I'm not a miner but one of the Barrick engineers there told me that it's the tailings pool where they collect the nasty stuff.
Sounds feasible but I just do the pictures.It's really red and quite pretty, like a poisonous snake..

Not too far from "That bright red Georgia clay."
 

Criss Colon

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A monitor assigned by the U.N was agreed to by both parties after the clean-up from the Rosario Dominicana was carried out.

They carry out monthly surveys from data gathered by locals trained to do so each other week.

The rivers are cleaner than prior to the new operations and each year they keep getting healthier.

This is one of the reasons the DR's contract wasn't as lucrative as other mine operations of the same size elsewhere.

Also in the contract, Barrick or whatever company owns the rights to the mine, are to properly shut down the mine when the time comes. Cleaning everything behind them and restoring as much as possible of the top soil in the mine area.

I bet you believe in the "Tooth Fairy" then as well??????

I didn't know that you got "Barrick" as a new client,...congratulations!!!!!

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robbiee

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well, I remember visiting Lake Hatillo in 2012... Beautiful area...
I came some months later in 2013 and the water had different colour (red-brown)...because of Barrick Gold operations.....
what is even "funnier" is the fact that they had "freshly elected" parque national over there....
something like that:
http://enteraterd.com/page/caasd-dice-presa-hatillo-esta-contaminada-por-barrick-gold/
article is actually from 2013, bear in mind....
I haven't seen the River Magajita lately so I won't comment on the veracity of that. The pictures Pichardo posted are Barrick's propagandda pictures. Here's my first hand testimony...Barrick is using up to 25000 gallons of water a minute off Hatillo Lake. They're quickly depleting the lake at very high pace. Here's a picture I took this past December.

aepgt4.jpg


See those cement walls? About two years ago the water was about half way up that wall.

Here's another one.

2rqou95.jpg


This part where there's now a road was all covered with water. The water used to be up to the tree line in the background. As a matter of fact right where I stood to take the picture is where the "Ferry Boat" used to be anchored. You can see it in this older picture.

ferry+4.JPG
 

PICHARDO

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so actually, PICHARDO, what the f.. are you posting about with these images and corporate lying ?
it's rather EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE as you posted

Nope!

The water level has zilch to do with Barrick's operation in the mine.

This is just how the people that want to make money out of Barrick present their case to the public opinion.

Barrick recycles the water it uses and only draws a minimum amount from any other source. They even built a retaining and treating pond for the water that would be too costly to continue to recycle and left out to the stream again after undergoing the safety process.

It's easy to manipulate information and pictures, but hard to change the facts as verified by international monitors in the country to that end.
 

robbiee

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have you seen the photos that I posted ? have you read my post ? and last but not least - have you been there at ll ? it was like that in 2013, few months after Barrick started their operations
if it got better, it would be nice, but I doubt
I suspect memeber robbie was wearing his red lense glasses when viewing the lake
 

bob saunders

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have you seen the photos that I posted ? have you read my post ? and last but not least - have you been there at ll ? it was like that in 2013, few months after Barrick started their operations
if it got better, it would be nice, but I doubt

So, ecowarrior it doesn't sound like you've been there either, is that correct?
 

bob saunders

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post #30....god damn i am so patient on this forum, with some people, it requires that................:)

So you were there in 2012 and in the 4 years since, Barrick has done the clean up, started operations, and a drought has occurred. All of which have changed the previous environmental landscape. You are doubting that they've improved anything, only made things worse. Pichardo has provided evidence that they've improved things and recycle the water they use. Perhaps you are correct and they've laid a very good smoke screen.
You have stated in post 31 that Barrick and Pichardo are lying- your proof is?
 

Ecoman1949

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Good morning one and all. Haven't been following this thread and don't have much background on Barricks operation in the DR. I will say that during periods of extended droughts, natural blooms of river algae can occur. They can create, red, green, or yellow colours in the river. Also the pollen from trees and plants can cause river discolouration. What's happening in the river may not be related to Barricks operation. It may be due to other environmental conditions.