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Cardinals Prospect Oscar Taveras Killed In Car Crash
I was driving on the same road right before he got in this accident, to be going anywhere over 30km with that storm would be pure insanity!!! I could not see 5 feet in front of me! This was NOT BAD LUCK, it was a drunk, speeding, young care free attitude that did this!
My wife was at CMC for the weekend and the nurses described the body that came in, it did not sound good!
My wife was at CMC for the weekend and the nurses described the body that came in, it did not sound good!
The list of young got wealthy quick then died is pages and pages long. For me it starts with James Dean in his Porsche. Respectfully disagree about the seat belts not helping survivability. Really doubt they were buckled up but combination of belts, air bags and designs of modern cars do make crashes survivable. Where you get killed is when there is an intrusion into the car as in a t bone to drivers side and the force of the impact crushed your chest cavity. Not being restrained results in ultra violent trauma from being thrown around in the vehicle. Up to 80 mph or so this kind of a crash CAN be survived. Over 80 and up it will most often have fatalities. As I remember Paul Walkers crash was 100 mph and they struck a pole.
Wear the belts is a really good idea and greatly increases your odds
Wear the belts is a really good idea and greatly increases your odds
zoom, i agree about the seat belts. this car has side and front airbags. i think the person on the side that hit the tree might have died, but the other would have survived the crash.
If the car was going sufficiently fast, the sudden deceleration from let's say about 100 MPH to zero, is likely enough to be fatal. There is little luck involved at those speeds in those conditions.
That is all I was trying to say. Luck plays a role in fatal car accidents. My mother was an ER nurse at Cook County Hospital for over 15 yrs back in the 80's into the 90's and I have heard her say LUCKY many times describing auto victims coming into the ER.
There is NO equation on who is killed in auto accident and who isn't. Are some of you coming to say all people involved in a high speed crash dies 100% of the time???
There is NO equation on who is killed in auto accident and who isn't. Are some of you coming to say all people involved in a high speed crash dies 100% of the time???
i am coming to say that you should not be driving at insane speeds in the pouring rain, especially when you are not a high level driver. even though you are only 22, you should have enough smarts to realize that you are taking a big risk driving like that.
Maybe he thought he could handle his car in any condition. His age is more of a factor then anything I know because I was once 22 myself.
I am 38 yrs old now and I have a very fast car a new Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT, but I wanted the Challenger SRT8 so I know very well the TORQUE and HORSEPOWER of American muscle. I can't tell you how many young guys pulled up and ask "how fast can she go" One young Asian guy in a Nissan 370 Z wanted to race me on a city street in the middle of the day. Now if I was 22 yrs old I more then likely would have raced him but I am older and wiser.
He was a kid that used poor judgment on this night and lost his life. When I was younger I drove fast and reckless at times but I was LUCKY I did not kill myself or anyone else.
The LONG split second when he lost control of his car before he it that tree you know what was going through his head???
DAMN I F*CK UP!!!!!!
Does anybody know the type of Camaro he owned??? I can't find out if it was a SS, ZL1 or an RS. I assume since he was a baseball player he had a ZL1, but I just saw the photo and I think the car is an RS.
Now it makes since because I was picturing him driving at a high rate of speed in a ZL1 in the DR during a flood or a mjor down pour which is almost impossible in that car.
At 22 yrs old Dominicans are not into what is under the hood more so then the "looks" of the car. Dominicans would rather turn heads then pop the hood and show off the engine.
A Camaro RS with 22 inch rims and a custom paint job makes more sense. The tires on his Chevy Camaro are very very low profile tires and are not made for handling only looks.
This Camaro was not a performance car, but a "show" car and you can't turn a show car into a performance car.
Now it makes since because I was picturing him driving at a high rate of speed in a ZL1 in the DR during a flood or a mjor down pour which is almost impossible in that car.
At 22 yrs old Dominicans are not into what is under the hood more so then the "looks" of the car. Dominicans would rather turn heads then pop the hood and show off the engine.
A Camaro RS with 22 inch rims and a custom paint job makes more sense. The tires on his Chevy Camaro are very very low profile tires and are not made for handling only looks.
This Camaro was not a performance car, but a "show" car and you can't turn a show car into a performance car.
Bad luck, stupidity, etc...there are 2 families that are grieving the loss of their family member. As a parent I cannot even imagine what they are going through.
its not luck its simple physics. The car is moving at 100mph when it strikes the tree and nearly instantly it stops. The occupants not wearing seat belts and all things unsecured within the car continue to move at 100mph until they violently strike the cars interior. The amount of violence in such an accident is tremendous and the occupants are often subjected to multiple strikes within the car until they finally come to rest. Occupants secured with seatbelts avoid this often fatal further traumatic injury. The g forces in such an accident are large but of short duration and the human body can survive the g forces if there is not accompanying traumatic injury. The air bags help but you need to be restrained by the seat and lap belt system. The other unknown is the quality and time of trained medical assistance.
Uhhhh you are waaay off. There are several gross inaccuracies with your statement:
- Don't care about power? Say that to the driver of the Nissan GTR and his 370z buddies that flew by me like a rocket down the autopista duarte (I was doing 75)
- The base model Camaro is a 1LS and it comes with a V6 323hp engine. (There is no RS model, that is a body package not a model)
- The hp in that model makes it a sports car PERIOD. That is enough to speed and weight to turn it into a missile.
If he had a model 1SS or 2SS he would have a v8 with 426 hp...still PLENTY dangerous.
The ZL1 model has 580 hp and has a distinctive raised hood. I am inclined to say that he had a ZL1 based on the pictures posted on the web you can clearly see he had the same hood that only came on that model.
Either way its a damn shame. RIP