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Funny but it would be interesting to know what really happens. Don't the PN have a talk with them or are there no resources for that. Maybe they are wanted for something committed in the DR.
They are brought in, questioned and they (PN) check to see if the person has charges or crimes in the DR. The policy is that every deportee is interviewed/reviewed by the Dominican authorities. Now does it happen every time, I do not know but it is done.
 

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If they have charges in the US I hope DR will consider that and look if they had similar violations in DR
As mentioned, there is a verification process once the deportees arrive. But if the individual has no outstanding issues in DR, there is nothing further DR authorities do to deal with crimes committed abroad.
 
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They are brought in, questioned and they (PN) check to see if the person has charges or crimes in the DR. The policy is that every deportee is interviewed/reviewed by the Dominican authorities. Now does it happen every time, I do not know but it is done.
..........And those flights currently land once a week at SDQ. Expect an increase in those flights very soon. I do hope the DR is ready........

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..........And those flights currently land once a week at SDQ. Expect an increase in those flights very soon. I do hope the DR is ready........

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
But who are they exactly. Hardened criminals or illegal aliens washing dishes at restaurants ?
 

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But who are they exactly. Hardened criminals or illegal aliens washing dishes at restaurants ?

When a Dominican is convicted of a crime in USA, and they are not a citizen, they are deported when they finish their prison term. That includes those with permanent residency (green cards), and illegals.

I’m not sure if just being illegal will be crime enough at this point forward.
 

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When a Dominican is convicted of a crime in USA, and they are not a citizen, they are deported when they finish their prison term. That includes those with permanent residency (green cards), and illegals.

I’m not sure if just being illegal will be crime enough at this point forward.
I thought they were already doing that. What's different? Of course we are talking about deported Dominicans.
 

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I thought they were already doing that. What's different? Of course we are talking about deported Dominicans.
Up to this point the deported have been criminals after serving their time. (Again, they did not need to be illegal as those who had residence without citizenship applied to this).
Now the expectation is the deportations will include those who are illegal in the US. (Even if they have not committed a crime).
 
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But who are they exactly. Hardened criminals or illegal aliens washing dishes at restaurants ?
The first point is they are all criminals, having become so by entering the US illegally in violation of law. This does not include those on TPS (temporary protected status) or who have requested asylum.

Those deported are what can be referred to as mostly hardened criminals who were caught, convicted and served their jail time. A smaller portion were those caught after having had a hearing and lost their case and were ordered to be deported.........but never left. They are usually caught/identified after having been arrested for minor crimes. But many states authorities shamefully, will not cooperate with US immigration detainer orders.............but that is changing......and changing fast.

The government, contrary to many media reports, does not and will not deport those who were allowed to enter temporary protected status as was/is the case with many Haitians or those seeking asylum.................but that is ending soon as well.

CBP one was such a scam that many (thousands) people using it were using the same email address and physical location address to inform the government where/how they could be reached or where they would be staying so they could be notified about their immigration hearings.

But those days are over and the deportations have begun.

Thousands have been deported back to the DR over the years with many thousands more to come.......but in a quicker time frame.

To answer your question from above "what's different".......................many of these people also being deported were illegal AND convicted of multiple crimes but never did jail time and were caught, convicted and released by many of the more liberal states courts/judges.

I would venture to guesstimate that Trump will likely only deport 1-2 million illegals during his time in office. That certainly does not dent much the 11 million estimated illegals in the US..................but his policies going forward and his commitment to stop the insanity at the borders is why he won election.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
 

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As mentioned, there is a verification process once the deportees arrive. But if the individual has no outstanding issues in DR, there is nothing further DR authorities do to deal with crimes committed abroad.
I'm OK with that but the DR should be notified of any criminal offenses committed in the US so they are aware of priors.

I hope that violent or repeat criminals are targeted and cities and counties cooperate with ICE so as not to disrupt the lives of immigrants leading respectful productive lives until they have a fair hearing.

Family members or aquaintences of immigrant criminals should physically separate themselves from criminals so they aren't swept up in the deportation storm.
 

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I thought they were already doing that. What's different? Of course we are talking about deported Dominicans.
When was the last time you visited the U.S., aarus?
 

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Standard procedure they get a complimentary 375ml Brugal, a 100-dollar moto with a silk screen naked lady plastic seat cover, a pound of dope, carton of Capitals and an entry level phone sales job at one of the local call centers. Beyond that, rehabilitation is optional, but generally declined.
Dominicans I know have told me all deportees are now required to go thru a "debriefing", an orientation, finger printing and background assessment. They are no longer allowed to just hop off the plan and disappear back into society. The government started this program around Covid times which oddly enough was around the same time those crooks to the north of us launched this application.
 
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The first point is they are all criminals, having become so by entering the US illegally in violation of law. This does not include those on TPS (temporary protected status) or who have requested asylum.

Those deported are what can be referred to as mostly hardened criminals who were caught, convicted and served their jail time. A smaller portion were those caught after having had a hearing and lost their case and were ordered to be deported.........but never left. They are usually caught/identified after having been arrested for minor crimes. But many states authorities shamefully, will not cooperate with US immigration detainer orders.............but that is changing......and changing fast.

The government, contrary to many media reports, does not and will not deport those who were allowed to enter temporary protected status as was/is the case with many Haitians or those seeking asylum.................but that is ending soon as well.

CBP one was such a scam that many (thousands) people using it were using the same email address and physical location address to inform the government where/how they could be reached or where they would be staying so they could be notified about their immigration hearings.

But those days are over and the deportations have begun.

Thousands have been deported back to the DR over the years with many thousands more to come.......but in a quicker time frame.

To answer your question from above "what's different".......................many of these people also being deported were illegal AND convicted of multiple crimes but never did jail time and were caught, convicted and released by many of the more liberal states courts/judges.

I would venture to guesstimate that Trump will likely only deport 1-2 million illegals during his time in office. That certainly does not dent much the 11 million estimated illegals in the US..................but his policies going forward and his commitment to stop the insanity at the borders is why he won election.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
So I have a Haitian guy I know in his early 30s. He went to Mexico via Central America and then to Mexico. While in Mexico, he got some kind of permit to work there while he waited for an appointment with the US Border Patrol. So he worked there for a while and got his appointment and was allowed to enter. He tells me he has another appointment in 2026. He's legally working in Jacksonville right now. That's about all I know.

What do you think his future holds?
 
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So I have a Haitian guy I know in his early 30s. He went to Mexico via Central America and then to Mexico. While in Mexico, he got some kind of permit to work there while he waited for an appointment with the US Border Patrol. So he worked there for a while and got his appointment and was allowed to enter. He tells me he has another appointment in 2026. He's legally working in Jacksonville right now. That's about all I know.

What do you think his future holds?

The answer is it depends.

Since by your explanation he got an appointment, likely through the CPB one app, he likely was granted tps or could have requested asylum. Either way, you are processed, released and given an appointment to review your case. My best guess, since you indicate he is working legally, is that he has tps. But that likely comes up for review at his hearing appointment in 2026. Since tps only lasts so long, and President Trump has indicated he will not extend it, your friend may have to return to Haiti or remain illegal in the US and be subject to a deportation order.

That is, unless he can get married to a US citizen before his status changes (a rather booming business these days). And know that President Trump and immigration are going to heavily scrutinize these marriages of convenience (Dominicans play this game well) that have been going on for years…….but not carefully looked at…..till now.

Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
 

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So I have a Haitian guy I know in his early 30s. He went to Mexico via Central America and then to Mexico. While in Mexico, he got some kind of permit to work there while he waited for an appointment with the US Border Patrol. So he worked there for a while and got his appointment and was allowed to enter. He tells me he has another appointment in 2026. He's legally working in Jacksonville right now. That's about all I know.

What do you think his future holds?
Keep us posted
 
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I think most of us on this forum have been blessed to have had opportunities in our lives for eduction and work.

While I'm no fan of the floods of illegal border crosses we see in the US and Europe , (the politicians are paying a hefty price for that and should). But I can empathize with those who feel so desperate they take such dangerous journeys. I've never felt that desperation.

It's too bad some countries emptied their prisons and sent some of the worst criminals north, which casts a taint on all immigrants.
 

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I think most of us on this forum have been blessed to have had opportunities in our lives for eduction and work.

While I'm no fan of the floods of illegal border crosses we see in the US and Europe , (the politicians are paying a hefty price for that and should). But I can empathize with those who feel so desperate they take such dangerous journeys. I've never felt that desperation.

It's too bad some countries emptied their prisons and sent some of the worst criminals north, which casts a taint on all immigrants.
one thing that has me puzzled we know for a fact that Venezuela open their prisons and sent their criminals to the US when they are caught how are they going to be sent back when the military plane is not able to land in that country will they just open the door and fly over the country and boot them out