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Cigar SHOCK.
Yep...his cigars are not for the faint of heart...or empty stomach!
btw, did you do that video with Charles?
Figurado Conundrum
True story. One day I had a great smoke, from the point of view of an easy light and a perfect burn. "This is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Why have I not experienced this before?" I asked, incredulously.
Turns out, I had lit the wrong end of my figurado!
So, the question is, where do you cut YOUR figurado?
Do you cut it at the fullest diameter making it like a parejo?
Do you cut the smallest diameter possible in keeping with the "minimum draw rule"? BTW, not understanding the whys and wherefores of "the minimum draw rule" is why this thread is for CIGAR SMOKERS ONLY! Others would just be too dumb or, should I say, inexperienced to figure it out.
Or somewhere in between?
And, further, what do you think about my idea of smoking a figurado from the wrong end? No, I'm NOT talkingabout "whatever floats your boat." That's obvious. I'm asking, is it a BETTER idea? And are you willing to try a test?
True story. One day I had a great smoke, from the point of view of an easy light and a perfect burn. "This is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Why have I not experienced this before?" I asked, incredulously.
Turns out, I had lit the wrong end of my figurado!
So, the question is, where do you cut YOUR figurado?
Do you cut it at the fullest diameter making it like a parejo?
Do you cut the smallest diameter possible in keeping with the "minimum draw rule"? BTW, not understanding the whys and wherefores of "the minimum draw rule" is why this thread is for CIGAR SMOKERS ONLY! Others would just be too dumb or, should I say, inexperienced to figure it out.
Or somewhere in between?
And, further, what do you think about my idea of smoking a figurado from the wrong end? No, I'm NOT talkingabout "whatever floats your boat." That's obvious. I'm asking, is it a BETTER idea? And are you willing to try a test?
Possibility of Cuban Fakes
You may be right. The jury is still out on that one. Three of the "Cuban" figurados I bought had poor construction, uneven burns and the tobacco quality was nothing to write home about. But one figurado Bolivar was quite good and the Romeo y Julieta #1 tubo was excellent.
I'm wondering if there could not be a shell game going on, mixing and matching authentics with fakes. But there's something else going on. Most would agree that Cuban cigars are the best in the world. However, the inverse is not true. It is not true that that means that every Cuban is a superior cigar. Many are mediocre and there are bad ones. This being the case, it's sometimes hard to judge.
Color me skeptical now about the integrity of this business. Given the excellent, excellent recommendations on this thread, I'm sure we can do better. I will, however, say that the in-house maduro robusto at RD$ 150.00 rivals a La Gloria Cubana Wavell and is somewhere between a good and a great cigar. In fact, that's going to be my "go to" budget cigar for my normal smoking. And the ambiance is great too; however, I've never seen other cigar smokers--a bad sign, and another indication that you might be right.
I'm very impressed by the information contained in this thread for cigar venues, purchase, as well as information on manufacture. I'm going to create a document on my desktop and take notes. Much to explore here. I'd really like to find the primo spot in S.D. Not only for purchases but a lounge to talk it up with the boys . . .
You may be right. The jury is still out on that one. Three of the "Cuban" figurados I bought had poor construction, uneven burns and the tobacco quality was nothing to write home about. But one figurado Bolivar was quite good and the Romeo y Julieta #1 tubo was excellent.
I'm wondering if there could not be a shell game going on, mixing and matching authentics with fakes. But there's something else going on. Most would agree that Cuban cigars are the best in the world. However, the inverse is not true. It is not true that that means that every Cuban is a superior cigar. Many are mediocre and there are bad ones. This being the case, it's sometimes hard to judge.
Color me skeptical now about the integrity of this business. Given the excellent, excellent recommendations on this thread, I'm sure we can do better. I will, however, say that the in-house maduro robusto at RD$ 150.00 rivals a La Gloria Cubana Wavell and is somewhere between a good and a great cigar. In fact, that's going to be my "go to" budget cigar for my normal smoking. And the ambiance is great too; however, I've never seen other cigar smokers--a bad sign, and another indication that you might be right.
I'm very impressed by the information contained in this thread for cigar venues, purchase, as well as information on manufacture. I'm going to create a document on my desktop and take notes. Much to explore here. I'd really like to find the primo spot in S.D. Not only for purchases but a lounge to talk it up with the boys . . .
Never smoke a "Figurado",...."Backwards"!
You not only look like an idiot, you waste most of the tobacco.
Just cut the "Head", light and enjoy!
I am waiting for several boxes of "Victor Sinclair's" ready at "EPS" for my wife to pick up right now!
I hope they enjoyed their trip from the DR, to Pensylvania USA, and back to the DR!!!!!!
I really like his "Primeros" blend cigars, all sizes, but usually just smoke the "Big Boys"!
I most enjoy cigars of the "6X60" ring gauge.
Smoother, creamier, more abundant, "Smoke"!
"JR" stop by for one, or TWO!
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You not only look like an idiot, you waste most of the tobacco.
Just cut the "Head", light and enjoy!
I am waiting for several boxes of "Victor Sinclair's" ready at "EPS" for my wife to pick up right now!
I hope they enjoyed their trip from the DR, to Pensylvania USA, and back to the DR!!!!!!
I really like his "Primeros" blend cigars, all sizes, but usually just smoke the "Big Boys"!
I most enjoy cigars of the "6X60" ring gauge.
Smoother, creamier, more abundant, "Smoke"!
"JR" stop by for one, or TWO!
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I also enjoy the larger ring cigars. 50 and up for me. I tried a few 70 ring monsters but that is just a little too big.
Yep that was me. I need to post that vid on the thread Charles, started since CC suggested it was some type of scam. LOL
Was that you at the end of the clip?
Not on the final version, did you not see it? :ermm:, check out his webpage. This was the second version. The final is 10 mins long
I would not consider myself a cigar "snob". I don't need to buy a name brand or the most expensive . In Las Terrenas there is a cigar shop with a couple of people rolling cigars of various shapes and sizes. The quality seems to be very good and the prices are outstanding. You have a choice of mild, medium and stong in the cigars they roll. You can get a quality smoke for rd300. The location is just down from Peso Plaza directly across the street from the French Cafe.
That is your prerogative Steve.
Just as it is mine to relentlessly seek the best I can find, and yes I do notice the difference and it isn't small.
Just two day ago I had a Partagas Churchill de Luxe 2001 (discontinued since 2006)... no freshly rolled stooge can match tis in nose, complexity, refinement and variation in taste, while maintaining the strength throughout.
Yes you pay a little extra (in this case I paid RD$ 600 for the stick), but for one of the great Churchill's with that amount of age, it really is a steal.
For me, cigars are a passion, for others a pass-time. Both are fine...
However, the pass-timer should refrain from broad statements about quality and not being worth it... leave that to the aficionado crowd...
In fact I would go as far as saying, sight unseen, that the RD$ 300 stick is overpriced compared to my Partagas...
Two great tastes that taste great together! LOL I'm a huge fan of Don Pepin's cigars...and those are two nice ones. Have you tried his original lines, especially the blue and black? Also the original Tatuaje Miami. Stellar stuff...
I did see it a while back and I think it was correct...I was kidding anyway...you did a great job on both videos by the way! I spent a lot of time with Jose and his sons last week in Las Vegas at the ICPCR. They had one of the busiest booths for a new release at the show.
Internet Buying and More
I've heard of JR. I've been buying from Cigar International. I buy either La Gloria Cubana corona gora toro maduro @ 25 for $100.00 or robusto Wavells @ 25 for $85.00.
You mentioned the Liga Privada 9 or Undercrown. Are you saying these are Drew Estates cigars? I haven't hear of
Drew Estates. What's the availability?
I've heard of JR. I've been buying from Cigar International. I buy either La Gloria Cubana corona gora toro maduro @ 25 for $100.00 or robusto Wavells @ 25 for $85.00.
You mentioned the Liga Privada 9 or Undercrown. Are you saying these are Drew Estates cigars? I haven't hear of
Drew Estates. What's the availability?
Cigar Bars
@DavidZ -- Thank you for this advice. I will be checking out both places. Maybe in the future someone can PM posters on this thread for a dr1 smokeout at one of the above or other . . .
@DavidZ -- Thank you for this advice. I will be checking out both places. Maybe in the future someone can PM posters on this thread for a dr1 smokeout at one of the above or other . . .
What's happening with this new Customs fee for orders less than $200.00? If true, that's a disgrace. A lot of Dominicans (and others) depend on these small shipments.
Again, thanks to you, valuable information for everyone. When buying Cuban cigars at Casa del Habano in D.F. (Mexico City), I never had doubts about authenticity.
Humidity, Storage, and Nomenclature
As you know, humidity for cigar storage should be somewhere around 70%. Today's humidity in S.D. is 57% -- "Close but no cigar" as they say. Do your recommends, Casa Fuente and Cameroon Cigar Bar, have walk-in humidors?
As to nomenclature, I see that "puro" has a technical definition. I have always used it as the generic Spanish term for "cigar" and I've never found anyone to not understand that usage. Could you say, then, that "puro" has both a formal and a colloquial definition? Any other Spanish synonyms for "cigar"?
As you know, humidity for cigar storage should be somewhere around 70%. Today's humidity in S.D. is 57% -- "Close but no cigar" as they say. Do your recommends, Casa Fuente and Cameroon Cigar Bar, have walk-in humidors?
As to nomenclature, I see that "puro" has a technical definition. I have always used it as the generic Spanish term for "cigar" and I've never found anyone to not understand that usage. Could you say, then, that "puro" has both a formal and a colloquial definition? Any other Spanish synonyms for "cigar"?