Coronavirus - In the DR

lifeisgreat

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We have several here (DR1) who advocate getting on w/ life - to a degree, I am one of them

We must get on w/ it.... carefully, prudently, cautiously... lots of adverbs for it

As for the high + testing, I expect they are not random tests....
but rather verifying existing symptoms

The larger , more worrying problem is how the cases have shifted away from and out of the metropolitan centers.
Like water spilling.....seems to run everywhere -
especially where you don't want it to go !!!:cry::unsure:
Agee life goes on and must ... but allowing out of control countries in and out is hardly sensible for short term gain long term loss..
 

william webster

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Right....
How we conduct ourselves daily/etc is one thing
but
there needs to be a master plan for the general public in an effort of containment
 
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My story: I had positive Rapid Test on june 1. Go started on ivermecting regimen on day 3. Started symptoms on day 3 at night.
I had Rx for PCR test on day 3. I waited and waited, called and called..no answer. Got negative results 1 day later. All together about 2 weeks from onset of symptoms.

Looks like the Ivermectine really worked.
 
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arturo

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Health insurance is good to have. General question to all, what should anyone do based on a positive or a negative test result? My impression is whatever the test result you stay away from other people, wear a mask, wait for a vaccine, and wash your hands. Am I wrong?

The part about sharing graphs and doomsday scenarios on the Internet goes without saying but I said it anyway.

Imagine you have no insurance...couple people I know paid close to 5000 peso for same test
 
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windeguy

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This has been on Facebook:

"I wanted to put this out there. I have worked in a clean room for 23 years and 10 years on Submarines before that. OSHA is the standard that you have to live by in these environments. So for the people that are going to say, listen to the experts, OSHA would be those experts on face masks. Please read the following with an open mind. Not going to change the mind of the hard core believers, but it would be nice for those people to not attack us that are not, as not caring. Not going to debate this, just putting it out there.

COPIED FROM AN OSHA CERTIFIED GENTLEMAN:
If you care, then share.
For all you mask wearers (especially those of you who think wearing it outside is NOT stupid 🤦🏼‍♀️). I know I’m about to burst your “google doctor degree” bubble, but here goes nothing.
So Masks?
I am OSHA 10&30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I want to cover 3 things
• N95 masks and masks with exhale ports
• surgical masks
• filter or cloth masks
Okay, so upon further inspection, OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick, you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Target and the guy with Covid has a N95 mask, his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Target (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out).
• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGGING these masks very, VERY quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask will render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it, YOU become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment.”
• Cloth masks: I can’t even believe I’m having to explain this, but here it goes. Today, three people pointed to their masks as they walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” they “pshh’d” me. By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale, you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks your health, rather than protect it. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.
-Ultimate Answer:
*N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.
*The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale, (Like a vacuum bag, it only works one way) but likely stops after 20 minutes, rendering it useless outside of a STERILE ENVIRONMENT (correct Becky, they don’t work in a bar, not even a little bit).
*Cloth masks are WORSE than none. It’s equivalent to using a chain link fence to stop mosquitos.
The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work. They’re being used to provide false comfort and push forward a specific agenda. For the love of God, research each mask’s designed use and purpose, I bet you will find NONE are used in the way of “viral defense.”
Just like EVERY Flu season kids, wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Sanitize your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, & I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons to keep your distance and work on body hygiene. But trust me, the masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Hazard Association sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
I know, facts suck. They throw a wrench into the perfectly (seeming) packaged pill you are willingly swallowing. Facts make you have to form your OWN OPINION, instead of regurgitating someone else’s, and I know how uncomfortable that makes a lot of you. If your mask gives you security, by all means wear it. Just know it is a false sense of security and you shouldn’t shame anyone into partaking in such “conspiracies.”
If select politicians stopped enforcing it, no one would continue this nonsense....
 

GringoRubio

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Three months of flattening the curve does not work.

That's because "flattening the curve" is a pointless goal. You need to drive the cases to extinction via quarantining travelers and aggressive testing and contact tracing. Either go large or give up. There are examples of those that did a great job: China, Vietnam, Canada, New Zealand.

Looking at the daily infection graph in the DR, it's clear that they never were able to drive the virus into negative territory.

I respect your opinion; in fact, I shared it at one point. However, the let it run scenery is hugely expensive and after paying that price, there's no guarantee that it wouldn't just become endemic as people lose the immunity to the coronavirus. If we're going to go down that rabbit hole, we better know what we're getting into.

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Andre14615

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A darn shame that is. And then a news report comes out that the people in Corona, Queens , NY (yes Corona, Queens) have reached "herd immunity" levels.
So go figure that out. Herd immunity is not possible if there is no herd immunity derived by those people who tested positive for antibodies.
And that vaccine we all so desperately want yesterday? Good luck with finding one that works if even having tested positive for CV19 does not protect you.
You keep screaming herd immunity herd immunity and yet every article written states that the antibodies for covid doesn't allow for herd immunity. Your only chance for herd immunity is a vaccine. But at this point you've convinced yourself to believe your own decisions so it is what it is. Have a good day.
 

Solar39

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Can anyone supply me with the phone number of the Cementary El ingenio. I need to get a burial plot soon. Thank you and pardon my intrusion into this lively discussion.
 

GusFring

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If people have the actual symptoms for CV19, then a positive result is actually expected, would you not agree?
It is not like the tests being done in the DR are random.
Agree and the more people tested the more accurate the positivity rate which is obviously an issue here.

The number of positives per 100,000 population is probably a better number at this stage.

Of course ICU bed capacity is a good indicator and well, the DR is toast in that department.
 

Cdn_Gringo

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No sad but infuriating. There are measures the govt can and could have taken to ease the strain on he hospitals but chose not to. Some decisions need to be made by the authorities to deal with the healthcare pressures. The question is will they competently and effectively address the situation before the system collapses?