Coronavirus - In the DR

[TropicalPaul]

Until countries have stemmed the increase in cases within their own populations and that includes here in the DR, there will be no open borders. This isn't realistically going to happen in 30, 60 or even 90 days. Citizens and residents here in the DR will be sitting in bars and restaurants infecting each other long before foreigners are permitted to come here and add to that problem.

My opinion only, the rest of you can dream about sunshine and lollipops all you want.

In the UK they keep saying the only reason for the lockdown was to protect the health service. They acknowledge that the disease is here to stay until they can find a vaccine or a cure, both of which are at least 1 year away, even though they have begun trials on vaccines now. But you cannot feasibly keep everyone in quarantine and shut down the planet for another year. So you just have to accept that the infection rate will go up when you allow life to go on and businesses to open, but try to keep it as low as you can through social distancing. The countries worst hit - US, UK, France, Spain, Italy - are the ones that are working out how to reopen but realise that they have to reopen.

So many families in DR are in absolute crisis now, short of food, no money to pay the rent. If the tourists don't come back soon, then you are going to see waves or crime, starvation and disease which will make Covid look like a walk in the park. And I imagine it will not be a pleasant place to live for expats.

 

[TropicalPaul]

I beg to differ

Yes I've seen that document. But I can't see how any of those hotels will reopen in May if the lockdown continues, and even in June if the airlines aren't coming. And regarding airlines, I know there are a lot of US and Canadians reading this, but Americans and Canadians only make up a part of tourist numbers. We also need the flights from Europe, from Russia and from South America to operate.

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

If the internal economy opens up slowly, a bit at a time, there can again be some money made to flow from employer to employee. However, it should be many months of Sundays before the tourists come back or even want to come back. For some, the one or two weeks away will mean two more weeks of mandatory quarantine when the return home.

The DR Govt has the ability to ensure that the abundance of food produced on the island gets handed out to the poorest of the population and doesn't go to waste. So as long as the cellphones keep working Fabio should have no real need to rob and steal from his neighbors. Less chance of getting lynched if he waits for the tourists to return. But crims aren't renowned for the intelligence so there might indeed be a few dead Fabios around if they decide to go on a scavenger hunt.

The focus is still to get people exposed to and sick from this disease at a controlled and manageable rate. Losing that control makes no sense.

 

[flyinroom]

I beg to differ

I didn't notice a date on that document. Any idea when it was produced?
One thing I did notice though was the "small print" at the bottom.
It wasn't actually that small though and it was printed in red to draw attention to the fact that...

Estas actualizaciones estan sujetas a cambio sin previo aviso.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

I didn't notice a date on that document. Any idea when it was produced?
One thing I did notice though was the "small print" at the bottom.
It wasn't actually that small though and it was printed in red to draw attention to the fact that...

Estas actualizaciones estan sujetas a cambio sin previo aviso.

Regardless, this schedule bears no legal weight. More of a marketing piece.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

So here's an example of a pain point. I live in an apartment building. My next door neighbor is in "real estate". He is Dominican. He is out in the street from 7am daily 7 days. He brings people (one or two) to drink on the balcony or roof almost daily. He has people "working" in his apartment on maintenance projects at least twice a week. He is up at 2am, 4am, 5am, turns on the overhead passage lights and does laundry. My mentality is "essential stuff" only. I understand laundry. The hour is a bit odd though. Since it's an apartment building his guests and workers have to cross my doorway. I need to leave everything closed. None of these folks have masks, not that that is unusual.

 

[Wheathead]

If the internal economy opens up slowly, a bit at a time, there can again be some money made to flow from employer to employee. However, it should be many months of Sundays before the tourists come back or even want to come back. For some, the one or two weeks away will mean two more weeks of mandatory quarantine when the return home.

According to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, Safety is the second most importand need (after food, water, warmth, and rest).
As a non-resident of DR who lives there only 5 months during the winter, I need to ensure that my safety while in the country is equal or better than where I am currently (Canada).

If tourists don't feel safe in travelling to any country, then they will stay at home. It was certainly the case with all of the bad US press last year regarding how the DR was unsafe for American tourists. It had a huge impact.

If I end up getting the Virus I feel I would have better health care here in my province and really have to rethink my next trip to DR at least until a vaccine is developed.

 

[malko]

FDA advierte no recetar hidroxicloroquina contra coronavirus

VIRUS PANDEMIA

listindiario.com

Oh well...... back to sniffing cloro for me then......

 

[chico bill]

Maybe DR could buy some of the faulty ventilators, masks and testing kits Europe bought from China at a significantly reduce price ? Hey some of it works 30% of the time. About on par with the other Chinese products sold in DR.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-receive-faulty-chinese-protective-equipment/

 

[Big]

lol 30% is cool when dealing with life and death

 

[Big]

Maybe DR could buy some of the faulty ventilators, masks and testing kits Europe bought from China at a significantly reduce price ? Hey some of it works 30% of the time. About on par with the other Chinese products sold in DR.

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...-receive-faulty-chinese-protective-equipment/

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

If I end up getting the Virus I feel I would have better health care here in my province and really have to rethink my next trip to DR at least until a vaccine is developed.

I would say that is a fair assessment. Dealing with CV19 here in the DR isn't going to advance healthcare any in this country. It may even deplete the limited resources they currently have. I frequently read of tourists who fly into the path of a hurricane to get to their prepaid AI. Those people in March hopping on cruise ships and then whining that no one was coming to rescue them is an even better example.

Until you have been sick with CV19 (assuming one gets immunity from that), or an effective treatment is found, or a vaccine is made available, traveling anywhere is undertaken with the understanding that one could get sick away from home and a familiar healthcare system. We already understand that passengers with CV19 dripping out of their noses aren't going to be allowed on planes to fly home from a poorly timed vacation...

 

[Caonabo]

In the UK they keep saying the only reason for the lockdown was to protect the health service. They acknowledge that the disease is here to stay until they can find a vaccine or a cure, both of which are at least 1 year away, even though they have begun trials on vaccines now. But you cannot feasibly keep everyone in quarantine and shut down the planet for another year. So you just have to accept that the infection rate will go up when you allow life to go on and businesses to open, but try to keep it as low as you can through social distancing. The countries worst hit - US, UK, France, Spain, Italy - are the ones that are working out how to reopen but realise that they have to reopen.

So many families in DR are in absolute crisis now, short of food, no money to pay the rent. If the tourists don't come back soon, then you are going to see waves or crime, starvation and disease which will make Covid look like a walk in the park. And I imagine it will not be a pleasant place to live for expats.

You left out the zombies.

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

You left out the zombies.

I was laying off of tropi-paul after he insisted he got a sealed copy of the presidential order yesterday. He right pissed his knickers! Let me quote the best here:

"So many families in DR are in absolute crisis now, short of food, no money to pay the rent. If the tourists don't come back soon, then you are going to see waves or crime, starvation and disease which will make Covid look like a walk in the park. And I imagine it will not be a pleasant place to live for expats."

Let me add: dafuc?! I'm laughing so hard some acid reflux came up

 

[El Rey de Mangu]

Meanwhile in La Cienaga de Cabarete, we have some activity around a possible Coby virus:

 

[drstock]

I can't see how any of those hotels will reopen in May if the lockdown continues, and even in June if the airlines aren't coming.

I stayed at a hotel in Juan Dolio last week and when I booked on Booking.com there were many others taking reservations. The only problem was getting food in the evening - I had to get a takeout at 4pm.

 

[Tom0910]

We already understand that passengers with CV19 dripping out of their noses aren't going to be allowed on planes to fly home from a poorly timed vacation...

I flew back to the states 10 days ago and nobody questioned me at all about my health,nothing. SDQ-JFK-BOS.

 

[TropicalPaul]

I was laying off of tropi-paul after he insisted he got a sealed copy of the presidential order yesterday. He right pissed his knickers! Let me quote the best here:

"So many families in DR are in absolute crisis now, short of food, no money to pay the rent. If the tourists don't come back soon, then you are going to see waves or crime, starvation and disease which will make Covid look like a walk in the park. And I imagine it will not be a pleasant place to live for expats."

Let me add: dafuc?! I'm laughing so hard some acid reflux came up

I really can't understand your post. I have attached a copy of the document I was sent. Looks pretty genuine to me.

And I'm not sure whether you have even been to DR, if you imagine that it is a joke to say that many families are in absolute crisis now. For those who have been suspended, the government is paying RD$ 8,500 per month. Which probably just about covers the rent, and nothing left for food. Do you think that crime isn't going to rise in this environment? Do you think that if people haven't got any food this won't lead to starvation?

Please explain what you find so funny?

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

I flew back to the states 10 days ago and nobody questioned me at all about my health,nothing. SDQ-JFK-BOS.

...and look what's happening with infection numbers in the USA. I'm sure the world is just itching to invite Americans to come visit.

In my country, the rules are very clear. Sick people may not get on a plane. Checking that is a bit of a problem, but the guidelines to the airlines are crystal clear. So Canadians who appear sick after a trip abroad wouldn't be able to get home.

 

[Caonabo]

I was laying off of tropi-paul after he insisted he got a sealed copy of the presidential order yesterday. He right pissed his knickers! Let me quote the best here:

"So many families in DR are in absolute crisis now, short of food, no money to pay the rent. If the tourists don't come back soon, then you are going to see waves or crime, starvation and disease which will make Covid look like a walk in the park. And I imagine it will not be a pleasant place to live for expats."

Let me add: dafuc?! I'm laughing so hard some acid reflux came up

Some live for the drama of it all. Look at how many YouTube diaries and podcasts are popping up chronicling persons daily lives during this Kung Flu Attack. I have never witnessed a more self-absorbed generation.