yea, or the ones that pull down their mask to smoke a cigarette and are 42 pounds over weight
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Obviously they have their priorities right, as there was more covit death then motos death last month.
Of course mask and helmet would be better, but if only one thing possible they choose correct.
I have been following the actions of Dr. Amado Alejandro Baez, appointed to a presidential committee on Covid-19. In a recent interview with the Council of the Americas he gives insights into a lot of good work to push the DR to combat the disease and push the DR to new normalcy.
Shared it this morning in DR1 News. Check it out and let's hear what you think.
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Shared it this morning in DR1 News. Check it out and let's hear what you think.
What no one has told you about what the DR is doing to beat Covid-19
There is much going on in the Dominican Republic to get the country back to new normal so people can get on with there lives in these Covid-19 epidemic times. Dr. Amado Alejandro Baez, an international renowned emergency physician on loan from the state of Georgia, USA, is helping the Dominican...
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I have been following the actions of Dr. Amado Alejandro Baez, appointed to a presidential committee on Covid-19. In a recent interview with the Council of the Americas he gives insights into a lot of good work to push the DR to combat the disease and push the DR to new normalcy.
Shared it this morning in DR1 News. Check it out and let's hear what you think.
What no one has told you about what the DR is doing to beat Covid-19
There is much going on in the Dominican Republic to get the country back to new normal so people can get on with there lives in these Covid-19 epidemic times. Dr. Amado Alejandro Baez, an international renowned emergency physician on loan from the state of Georgia, USA, is helping the Dominican...
Thanks for posting the article, its enlightning to see whats happening behind the curtains.
I read a lot of buzzwords which could mean anything except two examples.
One is the more regional handling of hotspots, a very good idea, the other one is an IT system.
As of the IT system done in 10 days by one guy: thats concerning, in such a timeframe you get the results you have seen in the election voting programs. There is no miracles in IT and that way you botch elections or make wrong health decisions. They run at 33% positivity rate of covit tests, that is flying blind, that is 6 times less tests then needed to have reliable data to act on. 33% means considering the negative retests of the recovered that almost ever new person tested is infected and a gigantig number is ill too but not tested.
They dont need more IT systems running on wrong data, they urgently need the real data of how many infections are where. At 33% positivity rate of tests they have no clue how many and where. They waste time on IT systems instead of working like crazy to solve the data problem. Not a word on testing in that interview. Doing a lot of things does not always result in better outcome...
La Romana resists confinement
computer translated:
La Romana resists confinement and distance to stop the coronavirus
Florentino Durán
La Romana, RD.
Although it was in La Romana that the first Coronavirus infection that was officially known in the country first moved, there is little learned from the situation by the locals.
This province not only registered the case of the Italian, the first known case in the country, but to this day it is already one of the provinces that contributes the most cases with more than 200 officially reported infected.
Taking to the streets in La Romana makes us think that we are on a normal day. People go to all places and in most cases they do not take care of the distancing measures, which puts levels of tragedy in the near future.
Even without the official bulletins reporting deaths, more than four people had been buried, including José Ignacio Morales (El Artístico) of the PRM and Pedro Núñez, of the People's Force, who were candidates for mayor for La Romana and La Caleta, and who were among the first to fall due to the effects of the Covid-19.
The week began with 383 infections and 14 deaths in the region, where this province is a leader with 208 confirmed cases. For tourism, the cosmopolitan of La Romana is an attraction. Appearing with its own name as an international airport in the world has endorsed a brand.
While the numbers are increasing, there is a resistance from many people not to abide by the distancing, nor the protocols established by the Ministry of Public Health. We only have to remember the cruises that did not allow them to disembark, when the effects of the pandemic and the results that Bayahibe yielded were hardly known.
Not all motoconchos and clients of banks and establishments use masks, much less gloves. When they do, some put them under their noses or around their necks, until they see a police officer.
Many stores and public establishments have not been quarantined and dispatch through back doors. People have fixed the time or moments when patrols pass, after the "curfew", and when they pass, they go out to play, drink and enjoy themselves, without taking care of any confinement or contagion care.
La Romana, one of the cities that reports the lowest levels of unemployment in the country, bets on openness when infections are observed with few controls. The president of the Dominican Medical College in the community, Neftali Rijo, has almost lost his voice making recommendations to avoid a major tragedy.
From the morning until the curfew, they carry out massive motor races through the exit of the city, especially on the La Romana-Higueral highway and nearby bateyes, without care and with many risks, before the astonished gaze of drivers who are seen at risk from skills.
The authorities do not have a joint plan and the most evident is the dispute between Governor Teódoro Ursino Reyes, who is followed by the rations sent by the government, and Senator Amarilis Santana, from the same Dominican Liberation Party, who complains about that food rations and plans are not shared with her.
Santana's husband, Enrique Martínez, is a top leader of the People's Force, the party that Leonel Fernández created upon his departure from the ruling PLD.
Contagion
The remand prisoners staged a riot this week due to an infected person, and demanded isolation measures and attention, adding drama to the tragedy.
For those infected, the isolation area for COVID-19 cases has been prepared at the Arístides Fiallo Cabral Hospital, formerly Social Security, in La Romana.
The manager of the Eastern Regional Health, Delca Reyes reported that the space will have 17 beds and five ventilators, as well as a room for critically ill patients, without patients from other towns being allowed, even from the same eastern region.
Although in principle it was proposed that the place serve on a regional basis, for patients in the area, Rhina Reyes, provincial director, clarified that it is an isolation area exclusively for patients in this province.
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computer translated:
La Romana resists confinement and distance to stop the coronavirus
Florentino Durán
La Romana, RD.
Although it was in La Romana that the first Coronavirus infection that was officially known in the country first moved, there is little learned from the situation by the locals.
This province not only registered the case of the Italian, the first known case in the country, but to this day it is already one of the provinces that contributes the most cases with more than 200 officially reported infected.
Taking to the streets in La Romana makes us think that we are on a normal day. People go to all places and in most cases they do not take care of the distancing measures, which puts levels of tragedy in the near future.
Even without the official bulletins reporting deaths, more than four people had been buried, including José Ignacio Morales (El Artístico) of the PRM and Pedro Núñez, of the People's Force, who were candidates for mayor for La Romana and La Caleta, and who were among the first to fall due to the effects of the Covid-19.
The week began with 383 infections and 14 deaths in the region, where this province is a leader with 208 confirmed cases. For tourism, the cosmopolitan of La Romana is an attraction. Appearing with its own name as an international airport in the world has endorsed a brand.
While the numbers are increasing, there is a resistance from many people not to abide by the distancing, nor the protocols established by the Ministry of Public Health. We only have to remember the cruises that did not allow them to disembark, when the effects of the pandemic and the results that Bayahibe yielded were hardly known.
Not all motoconchos and clients of banks and establishments use masks, much less gloves. When they do, some put them under their noses or around their necks, until they see a police officer.
Many stores and public establishments have not been quarantined and dispatch through back doors. People have fixed the time or moments when patrols pass, after the "curfew", and when they pass, they go out to play, drink and enjoy themselves, without taking care of any confinement or contagion care.
La Romana, one of the cities that reports the lowest levels of unemployment in the country, bets on openness when infections are observed with few controls. The president of the Dominican Medical College in the community, Neftali Rijo, has almost lost his voice making recommendations to avoid a major tragedy.
From the morning until the curfew, they carry out massive motor races through the exit of the city, especially on the La Romana-Higueral highway and nearby bateyes, without care and with many risks, before the astonished gaze of drivers who are seen at risk from skills.
The authorities do not have a joint plan and the most evident is the dispute between Governor Teódoro Ursino Reyes, who is followed by the rations sent by the government, and Senator Amarilis Santana, from the same Dominican Liberation Party, who complains about that food rations and plans are not shared with her.
Santana's husband, Enrique Martínez, is a top leader of the People's Force, the party that Leonel Fernández created upon his departure from the ruling PLD.
Contagion
The remand prisoners staged a riot this week due to an infected person, and demanded isolation measures and attention, adding drama to the tragedy.
For those infected, the isolation area for COVID-19 cases has been prepared at the Arístides Fiallo Cabral Hospital, formerly Social Security, in La Romana.
The manager of the Eastern Regional Health, Delca Reyes reported that the space will have 17 beds and five ventilators, as well as a room for critically ill patients, without patients from other towns being allowed, even from the same eastern region.
Although in principle it was proposed that the place serve on a regional basis, for patients in the area, Rhina Reyes, provincial director, clarified that it is an isolation area exclusively for patients in this province.
La Romana se resiste al confinamiento y la distancia para frenar el coronavirus
A pesar de que fue en La Romana donde primero se movio el primer contagiado de Coronavirus que se conocio oficialmente en el pais, es poco lo aprendido de
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Destroying lives economically can be as bad as dying.
Imagine if you were a mid-age Dominican who built a business. Somehow you put together enough money to start one, maybe borrowed from the bank and family.
Then even though the business was working helping you eat and pay back loans, maybe pay for kids in school and then, through no fault of your own, WHO & the CDC call for panic, the other countries fall in line and say:
"Tough luck hard worker you need to shut now and to heck with your future, we don't care about that and we will decide if and when you can reopen, because this flu is the worst we have ever seen".
I too am retired, and my income on auto-pilot but it doesn't mean I sit back and not have empathy for those not in my situation.
But I did own a business many years and I know the business is sometimes hanging on by a thread to keep the bills and borrowed money repaid and hopefully realize some income for yourself at the end of the day.
When the businesses reopen (the ones that can), thank them for hanging on and support them !
Yesterday there were no new infections in the PP area, as per the official report. There were 4000 people massing on the Malecon and on the beach just a week or so ago. Barely any masks and definitely no distancing. Seems like either the reporting is off, or the "accepted" science is off. Maybe somebody can explain this?
Without out a few places like San Francisco de Marcois (Duarte), the Capital City & Province, La Romana and Santiago and this thing is over.
Cordon the people from leaving there ?
Cordon the people from leaving there ?
No, cordon the stupids who ignore the rules (i.e. barrios). I am in Santiago, I do not need a cordon to follow rules.
Then there are many 'stupids' thereNo, cordon the stupids who ignore the rules. I am in Santiago, I do not need a cordon to follow rules.
Well, firstly, they are doing a random roundup, test and detention. The other day they pulled some 300 folks and 3 came back positive. If you dont test you don't get. Also the 5K sheep have exposed themselves to 5K times X more sheep since that Sunday, some who probably live in other towns. We will never know the true ramifications of the cross-planting event.
Here is an interesting article about how different types of exposure influence the virus and its risks to you. It is a long article, but fascinating. (this is not specific to the DR, but it applies in much of this discussion.) I checked out the author. She is a professor of micro biology at the University of Mass.
https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/cov...zG-niX7otLWcmr2ziGoCs-vQNG0kyop-Wp18GbcVE7t60
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https://erinbromage.wixsite.com/cov...zG-niX7otLWcmr2ziGoCs-vQNG0kyop-Wp18GbcVE7t60
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Gobierno mantiene medidas contra COVID-19 aunque el país va a panorama más dinámico
El presidente anunciará nuevo escenario; no se debe relajar la apertura
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The Minister of the Presidency, Gustavo Montalvo, said last night that the country is going towards a more dynamic scenario than the one that has lived in the last 50 days, but that it is not time to relax the measures so as not to lose all the way traveled to date. . Montalvo, who went to the country yesterday afternoon, also reported that the President of the Republic, Danilo Medina or himself, as president of the Monitoring Commission, will announce the new measures that will be taken, but in due course. “We are therefore moving towards a more dynamic scenario than the one we have experienced in the last 50 days. A scenario whose details, I remind you, will be widely announced by the President of the Republic or by this Commission at all times, "he said. "What we can advance is that in this scenario we must internalize these attitudes and gestures, the fulfillment of which will be more important than ever at the time we enter the next phase," he added. However, he clarified that in this next phase: “The responsibility will no longer be for a specific Commission or institution. The responsibility will be distributed in each municipality, each company, each neighborhood and each home ”. "Only from that shared responsibility do we achieve the balance necessary to maximize both the health of our population and the rapid recovery of our economy and our social well-being," he said. On the possibility of establishing a mandatory quarantine as in San Francisco de Macorís, Montalvo said that everything depends on the population as a whole adapting to the cultural change necessary to understand that this first level of prevention does not have, for the moment, reverse. “In the meantime, it is worth remembering that, at this time, the current restrictions are the same as those established at the beginning of the state of emergency. And that, therefore, the prohibition to operate prevails for those businesses that were not explicitly authorized to do so through Decrees 135-20, and 136-20, ”he stated. In the same way, the provision that limits the circulation of people continues to be in force even between 6:00 in the morning and 5:00 in the afternoon. "We remind the population that they should only make the transfers that are strictly necessary, to make purchases of food and essential products or medicines; always with the proper protection on the face ”, he affirmed. "The population as a whole must maintain a social distance of 2 meters, permanent hand washing and the use of masks outside the home"
That was informative on the quantitative aspects of being infected. Thanks.
As for all respiratory virus infections like this, they run their course naturally via herd immunity. We had better hope that NY, mismanaged terribly by the mayor and governor, may have reached a herd immunity point in NY city. I suspect not regarding NY city and herd immunity, since that is supposed to be about 60% of people with the type of infection rate of this virus.
Isolation flattens the curve but does not necessarily decrease the area under the curve. (It is starting to look like there is some herd immunity, but If there is no herd immunity, this will go on for a very long time. )
Back to the DR, we try to confine which will not allow for herd immunity.
Very eloquent and professional. So I forwarded this to my Dominican neighbor. One door down in apt building. Since the national emergency period and curfew has begun, he weekly parades domestic workers, painters, shoe shiners, a barber and his "business partners" who drink on the roof, up and down our commons way from 730am to evening. He skillfully has managed a full 2 bedroom Apt renovation, a purchase and install of a beautiful 12,000 btu inverter air unit, and sometimes pulls in after dark.Google translation:Gobierno mantiene medidas contra COVID-19 aunque el país va a panorama más dinámico
El presidente anunciará nuevo escenario; no se debe relajar la apertura
The Minister of the Presidency, Gustavo Montalvo, said last night that the country is going towards a more dynamic scenario than the one that has lived in the last 50 days, but that it is not time to relax the measures so as not to lose all the way traveled to date. . Montalvo, who went to the country yesterday afternoon, also reported that the President of the Republic, Danilo Medina or himself, as president of the Monitoring Commission, will announce the new measures that will be taken, but in due course. “We are therefore moving towards a more dynamic scenario than the one we have experienced in the last 50 days. A scenario whose details, I remind you, will be widely announced by the President of the Republic or by this Commission at all times, "he said. "What we can advance is that in this scenario we must internalize these attitudes and gestures, the fulfillment of which will be more important than ever at the time we enter the next phase," he added. However, he clarified that in this next phase: “The responsibility will no longer be for a specific Commission or institution. The responsibility will be distributed in each municipality, each company, each neighborhood and each home ”. "Only from that shared responsibility do we achieve the balance necessary to maximize both the health of our population and the rapid recovery of our economy and our social well-being," he said. On the possibility of establishing a mandatory quarantine as in San Francisco de Macorís, Montalvo said that everything depends on the population as a whole adapting to the cultural change necessary to understand that this first level of prevention does not have, for the moment, reverse. “In the meantime, it is worth remembering that, at this time, the current restrictions are the same as those established at the beginning of the state of emergency. And that, therefore, the prohibition to operate prevails for those businesses that were not explicitly authorized to do so through Decrees 135-20, and 136-20, ”he stated. In the same way, the provision that limits the circulation of people continues to be in force even between 6:00 in the morning and 5:00 in the afternoon. "We remind the population that they should only make the transfers that are strictly necessary, to make purchases of food and essential products or medicines; always with the proper protection on the face ”, he affirmed. "The population as a whole must maintain a social distance of 2 meters, permanent hand washing and the use of masks outside the home"
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