Coronavirus - In the DR

[CristoRey]

Flattening the curve is popular..

I do not understand how these people think.
Tourist/ Snowbirds who will be coming down
to Sosua for long stay starting October can easily
pick it up in an airport prior to arriving.

People will continue to get sick and people will continue
dying. Sad truth. Let nature run its course and
quit ruining people's lives over it. Wear a mask,
wash your hands, open the businesses and END THE CURFEW.

 

[Caonabo]

 

[PICHARDO]

45 more days, and it goes on and on. Abinader is putting himself in a big hole and he may not be able to get himself out.
Free lapatos, free internet for all students......not going to pull that one off or even come close.
45 days more of curfew - that takes us into high season, and I can hear the flights being canceled now.

At some point the DR will run out of money, no matter how much graft they stop
https://noticiassin.com/senado-aprueba-pedido-de-abinader-para-45-dias-mas-de-estado-de-emergencia/

Money is not an issue any longer, inflation is.
The DR gov can pump billions short to mid term with a slight bump on inflation. The problem is centered on the long term if recovery is not possible.

keeping the health system from collapsing is the key to this problem. Slow the infection rate long enough to clear 50 to 60 % of critical care hospital beds.

Herd immunity in the DR is almost reached in a count of 30 to 1.

We just need to protect more our elderly population.

 

[Caonabo]

The DR needs to follow up on the Ivermectin studies from Australia. If that drug or a combination actually works, it would be cheap and quick to treat all the sick in this country. Good for the people, good for the hospitals and good for tourism. We are all craving an effective treatment if we can't have a vaccine. The DR needs to put in the scientific work to validate if Ivermectin is the solution.

It has been prescribed to patients here within RD since April. Five months. You need to find persons within your proper module that you can rely on for true information, or possibly translate to you the going ons of the evening news programs in the land which you now choose to reside.
All of this information is readily available, and it is free.

 

[Caonabo]

While I await my own testing results (which may be available as early as tomorrow afternoon), my secondary chauffeur did indeed test positive/Detectado for Covid-19. He showed neither symptoms, nor possessed ailments, but within a group testing of employees, he was indeed positive.
In consulting with his own primary physician, he was prescribed the following medications:

Ivermectin 6mg...2x daily (every 12 hours) for 3 days (6 tablets total)
Azithromycin 500mg...1x daily for 5 days (5 tablets total)
Subrox-L Cough Syrup (Ambroxol, HCI + Loratadine)...1 tablespoon 3x daily (every 8 hours) until the bottle is complete.
Multivitamin...30 day supply of 1 per day capsules.

As an amateur bodybuilder/workout enthusiast he opted to continue with his own supply of multivitamins, as opposed to the prescribed generic brand. The other medications were provided for him.
He will self-quarantine in his residence for 15 days (with full pay), and then have a follow up exam/test.

*This will be posted within the relevant thread lines which may seek/appreciate this information of real life/real time information within the confines of the RD.

 

[GusFring]

Well, Mr. Jones, as they say......timing IS everything.
I just received a test this morning in my current location, here in Guayacanes. The test was requested on Monday morning at 10am, and my insurance information (Humano) was submitted within ten minutes following said request. Yesterday (Tuesday) afternoon at 4:45pm, I received confirmation from the Referencia Lab in San Pedro de Macoris that a technician would be responding to my location this morning (Wednesday) at 9:40am, and to insure that I would be present at my location.
The technician arrived this morning at 10:20am, accompanied by a security driver, in a dark green Honda civic, with of course.....tinted windows.
The technician was wearing typical lab gear, and in front of my location donned a paper gown, paper booties, mask and face shield, and then entered my premises with a small tackle box and cooler.
On my coffee table, the technician laid out a sheet of paper (the kind doctors roll out on exam tables), my paperwork, and the testing utensils, and then asked me to confirm the spelling of my name on the paperwork.
After a quick study, and affirmation, she asked if I was ready? She then inserted the skewer type testing probe up my right nostril, until it felt like it was touching my eye. She removed the skewer stick, and repeated the process with my left nostril. Eye included.
She then sealed the probes/samples in a vile, and entered them into the cooler, and handed me the receipt with my unique username + password to receive my results within 72 hours from their web site.
As she was leaving, I asked her how many home visits does she do daily? She told me she averages 20-25 different homes per day, but sometimes the residences have more than one person receiving the test. She is not the only examiner for her office location.
Time of Arrival: 10:20am
Time of Departure: 10:27am
Why you, nor your employees were unable to receive the same treatment I just did is beyond me. Perhaps you can try visiting the office in person for a request to visit, as sometimes phone lines can indeed be difficult to deal with.
All in all, it took longer for me to type and share this posting than to receive the exam. My eyes are still throbbing.

Took you more time to write this post🤣

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

Can anyone explain who to contact to see about arranging an in home PCR covid test in Sosua? I already know about the antibody test offered by Puerto Plata labs. Or failing that how does one find out where to go stand in the massive line for a test. I'd prefer to contact the place first to inquire about insurance covering the cost and the process. So I know what to expect before I arrive.

 

[josh2203]

Cuestionan curva de contagio de COVID-19 esté disminuyendo en RD

Experto considera que ello depende de que las pruebas realizadas sean consistentes

www.diariolibre.com

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A partir del 3 de septiembre, República Dominica entrará en un séptimo estado de emergencia y con esta declaratoria se extenderá el toque de queda vigente, que inicia a partir de las 7:00 p.m. hasta las 5:00 a.m. del día siguiente en el Gran Santo Domingo y en otras demarcaciones.

De acuerdo con el presidente de la Republica, Luis Abinader esta medidas se mantienen porque, “ya ha ido disminuyendo la curva de contagios”.

Sin embargo, el epidemiólogo y salubrista Carlos Féliz, explicó que para determinar la situación real del coronavirus se debe tomar en cuenta la cantidad de pruebas que se realiza por día, la cual debe ser constante durante al menos una semana.

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I can't really believe that Abinader actually would have said that as there are fewer new cases, things are going better and at the same time, the amount of tests done daily is dropping drastically... If that is true, I just lost a bit of hope for him... They have publicly admitted that the lab is congested and only now they have tests available... I wonder what he says when they start to carry out those promised 7000 tests daily and the cases go up???

 

[windeguy]

Money is not an issue any longer, inflation is.
The DR gov can pump billions short to mid term with a slight bump on inflation. The problem is centered on the long term if recovery is not possible.

keeping the health system from collapsing is the key to this problem. Slow the infection rate long enough to clear 50 to 60 % of critical care hospital beds.

Herd immunity in the DR is almost reached in a count of 30 to 1.

We just need to protect more our elderly population.

I have great doubts about herd immunity.

I hope there is at least some immunity possible. It has been predicted by virologists that CV19 would have heard immunity after 60% of the population is infected. Now we are getting confirmed cases that people that had CV19 are being re-infected, which is not good for the existence of herd immunity. New strains of CV19 complicate greatly the chance of a vaccine working.

Back to flattening the curve. Does the are under the curve change?

 

[Cdn_Gringo]

All the more reason to find a treatment that kills off this virus before it can get itself established in the body and do real damage.

 

[zoomzx11]

My bro in law got sick with a fever, cough, elevated temp via hand on forehead method, coughing up blood.
Went to hospital in Montellano and they had no tests for CV19.
Took a chest x ray and said his lungs looked bad.
He was given an injection and sent home. He did not know what the injection was when I asked.
This was on Wed and today is Sat and what is interesting is he is feeling much better.
My understanding was that when the virus spreads into and affects the lungs it is a morbid sign.
On top of it all he is an insulin dependent diabetic.
Before he became ill he did not take the disease and his likelihood to catch it seriously.
That has changed.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

You seem to have misunderstood the data, my friend. Take a deep breath and read again. Everything is going to be OK...

Yeah, Everything is going to be OK, what are they worrying about?
We're all going to die anyway, it's just another flu and so few die
Only a few pregnant mothers and placentas are affected.....

Redacción Digital
Santo Domingo, RD
El ministerio de Salud Pública, informó este domingo que 509 casos nuevos de coronavirus (Covid-19) fueron registrados durante el sábado, ascendiendo las cifras a 94,241 las personas que se han cotagiado en la República Dominicana.
Los casos activos hasta la fecha son 25,784 con una positividad de 28.35 por ciento.
Muertos
El informe detalló que el número de fallecidos por la enfermedad ascendió a 1,681.Para una tasa de letalidad de 1,78 por ciento.
UCI
Asimismo, indicó que 220 personas se encuentran en Unidades de Cuidados Intensivos (UCI), donde un 41,82 por ciento se encuentra en centros del Gran Santo Domingo, 30,45 por ciento en la provincia de Santiago y 10,00 por ciento en Duarte.
Además, 7,480 están en aislamiento hospitalario mientras que otros 18,304 en aislamiento domiciliario.
Pruebas de COVID
367,146 muestras han sido procesadas donde solo ayer fueron realizadas 3,339. El Laboratorio Nacional realizó un 16,7 por ciento de los test reportados, aportando el 45 por ciento de los casos positivos.

Ocho muertos y 509 casos nuevos de Covid-19 en el país

De acuerdo a la emisión del boletín especial número 164 informado este domingo por el ministerio de Salud Pública

listindiario.com

 

[JD Jones]

Another gentle reminder: this is the Covid in the DR thread.

 

[CristoRey]

Exactly which is why, CLAIMING, all these deaths are "from" Covid helps perpetuate the excuse for the lock downs. The "Pandemic" scare.

Indeed....
Its time to flatten the fear folks.

 

[Lobo Tropical]

Redacción Digital
Santo Domingo, RD
El ministerio de Salud Pública, informó este domingo que 509 casos nuevos de coronavirus (Covid-19) fueron registrados durante el sábado, ascendiendo las cifras a 94,241 las personas que se han cotagiado en la República Dominicana.
Los casos activos hasta la fecha son 25,784 con una positividad de 28.35 por ciento.
Muertos
El informe detalló que el número de fallecidos por la enfermedad ascendió a 1,681.Para una tasa de letalidad de 1,78 por ciento.
UCI
Asimismo, indicó que 220 personas se encuentran en Unidades de Cuidados Intensivos (UCI), donde un 41,82 por ciento se encuentra en centros del Gran Santo Domingo, 30,45 por ciento en la provincia de Santiago y 10,00 por ciento en Duarte.
Además, 7,480 están en aislamiento hospitalario mientras que otros 18,304 en aislamiento domiciliario.
Pruebas de COVID
367,146 muestras han sido procesadas donde solo ayer fueron realizadas 3,339. El Laboratorio Nacional realizó un 16,7 por ciento de los test reportados, aportando el 45 por ciento de los casos positivos.

Ocho muertos y 509 casos nuevos de Covid-19 en el país
El ministerio de Salud Publica, informo este domingo que 509 casos nuevos de coronavirus (Covid-19) fueron registrados durante el sabado, ascendiendo las c

listindiario.com

 

[william webster]

Here's an interesting read -
It speaks to the idea of 'suppression' vs 'mitigating'... suppression being the stronger

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Brusin would not be drawn on naming countries but said what separated states in Europe was the degree to which their pandemic plans were “up to date” and how quickly they were enacted. Especially important was the degree to which national plans embraced strategies for “suppressing the virus” rather than just “mitigating” its impact. “Because most plans were geared towards flu, they were mostly mitigation plans. They didn’t have suppression tools, with measures like lockdowns and so on,” he said.


“In around 2016, the World Health Organization came out with the concept of the famous Disease X; the idea we should plan flexibly for a novel pathogen. That was much closer to what we’re seeing with COVID-19, and the countries that bought into that kind of planning did have the suppression idea in their pandemic plans. The countries that implemented very tough measures early were the ones with better preparedness plans.”

The ECDC was set up to co-ordinate disease outbreak response in Europe after the 2003 SARS epidemic, and it has played a pivotal role in the response to COVID-19, mainly in the area of data and information sharing, but also in strategy. It recommended from the outset the route most western European countries have taken of ramping up social distancing and other containment measures according to how widely spread the virus is locally, as determined by widespread testing and contact tracing. Initially, Britain adopted a strategy of “contain, research, delay, mitigate” but it has now fallen broadly in line with the ECDC’s approach since the spring crisis.
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The DR is no different than many other countries.....
The article minimizes a large 'second wave' and says that since hospitals are not as crowded and their staff is better prepared,
mitigation will be an acceptable solution

 

[zoomzx11]

Redacción Digital
Santo Domingo, RD
El ministerio de Salud Pública, informó este domingo que 509 casos nuevos de coronavirus (Covid-19) fueron registrados durante el sábado, ascendiendo las cifras a 94,241 las personas que se han cotagiado en la República Dominicana.
Los casos activos hasta la fecha son 25,784 con una positividad de 28.35 por ciento.
Muertos
El informe detalló que el número de fallecidos por la enfermedad ascendió a 1,681.Para una tasa de letalidad de 1,78 por ciento.
UCI
Asimismo, indicó que 220 personas se encuentran en Unidades de Cuidados Intensivos (UCI), donde un 41,82 por ciento se encuentra en centros del Gran Santo Domingo, 30,45 por ciento en la provincia de Santiago y 10,00 por ciento en Duarte.
In addition, 7,480 are in hospital isolation while another 18,304 are in home isolation.
COVID testing
367,146 samples have been processed where only yesterday 3,339 were taken. The National Laboratory carried out 16.7 percent of the reported tests, contributing 45 percent of the positive cases.

Eight deaths and 509 new cases of Covid-19 in the country
The Ministry of Public Health, reported this Sunday that 509 new cases of coronavirus (Covid-19) were registered during Saturday, increasing the c

listindiario.com

We are small potatoes here.
India set a new world record on Sun Aug 30 with 79,000 new cases in a single day.
They are testing a million people per day.

 

[william webster]

I have read & reported here that overcoming our fear is necessary before any progress can be made w/ recovery

Fear stops us from re-entering life... from adapting to the new 'etiquette' of pandemic life.

Once we get accustomed (brave enough)to the problem & to venture out and dip our toes in the water,
things will start to get better

 

[zoomzx11]

I fully support responsible behavior.
Mask, gloves, vaseline... whatever it takes..
I do not support nationwide curfews
that are destroying people's livelihoods.

Interesting you are concerned about peoples livelihoods but not concerned with the deaths and sickness?
How about what death does to people's livelihoods?
While it is unpalatable to everyone the curfews are part and parcel of responsible behavior.
The economy will never recover unless the spread of the disease is drastically slowed.
Opening schools and businesses without very low positive test results has been shown time and time again to increase the spread of the disease.
Without the curfews there will be no major decrease in the spread.
Everyone hates the curfews but they work.
Sometimes you just have to take the medicine no matter how bad it tastes.
Remember hating eating your vegetables but your parents forced you.
They were right and you were wrong.
Sometimes the right thing tastes terrible but intelligent mature people do it anyway, because it is the right thing.

 

[zoomzx11]

I have read & reported here that overcoming our fear is necessary before any progress can be made w/ recovery

Fear stops us from re-entering life... from adapting to the new 'etiquette' of pandemic life.

Once we get accustomed (brave enough)to the problem & to venture out and dip our toes in the water,
things will start to get better

Everyone is different.
For me there is no re entering life at this time. No venturing out. It is a new normal.

I have a normal fear of being injured in a vehicle accident.
When I get in a car and snap the seat belts my fear goes away and I do my best to drive defensively. All I can do.
Same with the pandemic.
I do my best to adjust to the advice of the experts. I have done all I can to reduce my risk and I believe that my risk factors are near insignificant.
People who contract this disease made a mistake. You get it from other people and we know exactly how that happens.

Fear can be a very negative emotion and keeps people from visiting the doctor, seeing the dentist, even meeting new people in the old world pre virus.
For me fear of this disease is irrational and negative when we know exactly how you get sick.
I do not have any fear of adapting to the new "etiquette of pandemic life".
Adapting is very uncomfortable but by adapting in an effective fashion there is nothing to fear.
Always liked FDRs famous quote on fear.