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Drake

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Hurricane word origin

Below is some information I found on the origin of the word Hurricane;

The word Hurricane comes from 'Hurican', the Carib god of evil which has its roots in a name from Mayan folklore, Hurakan. Hurakan was the ancient Mayan god of wind and storm. He was a creator god who breathed on the water as wind to dry it out and form the land. When the gods became angry with the first human beings, Hurukan unleashed the deluge which destroyed them in a Flood. Hurakan means "one-legged".
See
http://www.deliriumsrealm.com/delirium/mythology/hurakan.asp

Besides the Mayans and the Carib tribes who had variations of the hurricane word. The Arawaks and the Tainos also had their versions

The word hurricane is believed to have been derived from the Spanish word "huracan" of the West Indies Arawak-speaking Indians. Other possible derivatives are: Aracan, Hurranvucan, Urican and Furacan. The Spanish letter F in Aragon, Spain was gradually being replaced by letter H of Castile in the late 1400s.
From http://www.keyshistory.org/hurricanes.html
Also this:
A major threat to sailing in the West Indies are hurricanes. The name is derived from the Taino word huracan. In Taino imagery, the Zemi (or deity) who controls huracans is depicted as a bodiless circular head with two hands spiraling off it in opposite directions -- a simple expression of the counter-clockwise action at the center of a hurricane.

From http://www.timespub.tc/Natural History/Archive/Fall2003/spanishtrans.htm

So as you can see it is not very clear where exactly the word comes from. It is my opinion that the Mayans were credited as they were the only pre-Columbian culture to have any written records. What they actually wrote with was hieroglyphics which have recently been interpreted.

The Caribs were well known for the rape and pillaging and their mobile nature and could have helped spread the significance of this word. Arawaks and Tainos have the same continental South American origin.

To conclude the word hurricane has no proven origin and should be in my opinion be considered an Amerindian word. The Tainos were the first to relate to Columbus?s men this word, as chronicled by them, and that is what has made it the international recognized word.
 

Dolores1

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Drake said:
I would disagree on some of your classifications data of DR hurricanes. Hurricane David which I experienced first hand was a Cat 5 when it hit between Azua and Haina. After the eye passed over I saw a barrio wiped away from a safe house. David is considered one of the strongest hurricanes to hit land from the last century.
Also Georges hit land cat 4 but diminished to 3 as it encountered the central mountain range.
Emily was never a CAT 4 and did very little damage to Bani maybe CAT 2
Also Beaulah only reached CAT 1 in 1967

San Zenon in 1930 is interesting because few knew it was going to impact Santo Domingo and many got caught out by the eye. Leaving their refuges as it passed over. It destroyed most the old wooden buildings in the Zona Colonial. Today you can see the buildings that are of an Art Deco style where those that were constructed in place of those destroyed. Incidentally Trujillo took hold of power the same year, as he commanded the reconstruction of the country taking advantage of the weak state.

Maybe we have been lucky this year but Hispa?iola is no stranger to Hurricanes. The word Hurricane comes from this island. The word Uracan comes from Taino mythology that refers to the evil god who raises storms to injure people. The DR is in the middle of the Caribbean and has had since the beginning of recorded History and since the arrival of Columbus suffered many Hurricanes. For thousands of years the mountains, the rivers and even the vegetation has been shaped by Hurricanes. Endemic trees like the Royal Palms are designed to resist Hurricanes by shedding its branches when winds pass 80 mph, enabling it to stay upright. When a hurricane does hit here all the introduced trees fall over whilst the endemic and naturalized survive.

Interesting. I believe the source of the data we provide is the local weather department listings.

I lived on the Malecon (near the Casa de Espa?a when David hit). Actually, the eye passed over my house because I remember the calm period. From what I recall, the hurricane's peak force was when it hit San Cristobal, which was about 20 kms from where I lived. From the best of my knowledge David entered the DR as a Hurricane 4, marginal with 5, but as a 4. This would be interesting to investigate with the Weather people, so will keep an eye open to verify this.

Also, will double verify Georges and Emily. What are your sources?
 

Dolores1

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Following up:

NOAA does not list David as a Cat. 5 storm. See
http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/satellite/satelliteseye/educational/cat5hur.html

The Center for International Disaster Information (CIDI) lists David as hitting the DR as a category 4. http://www.cidi.org/disaster/98b/0069.html

Storm Carib lists David as a Cat. 5. http://www.stormcarib.com/climatology/MDSD_all_isl.htm
They do not list Hortense and have Georges as a 2 (definitely recall it was a Cat. 3). Storm Carib lists Emily entering the DR as a Cat. 3.

From what I recall, David was going to hit as a Cat. 5, but diminished speed as it landed. But will continue investigating.

To the best of my knowledge, the DR has yet to be hit by a Cat. 5 storm.
 

Dolores1

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The Atlas de los Recursos Naturales de la Republica Dominicana, Julio 2004 published by the Ministry of Environment, under historian Frank Moya Pons mentions the hurricanes hitting the DR as:

1930. San Zenon, winds of 200 km/h - Cat. 3
1952. Charlie, winds of 100 km/h - Tropical Storm
1963. Edith, winds of 160 km/h - Cat. 2
1966. Ines, winds of 204 km/h - Cat. 3
1975. Eloisa, winds of 90 km/h - Tropical Storm
1979. David, winds of 240 km/h - Cat. 4
1979. Frederic, winds of 100 km/h - Tropical Storm
1984. Lili, winds of 118 km/h - Tropical Storm
1996. Hortense, winds of 148 km/h - Cat. 1
1998. Georges, winds of 170 km/h - Cat. 2
 
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Dolores1

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Continuing with the theme of whether David was a 5/4, Georges was a 3/2, Inez was a 4/3 found this source that I think can provide definitive answers.

http://weather.unisys.com/hurricane/index.html as it lists the actual path in latitude/longitude of the hurricanes per year.

I also found this link that lists the lat/long of different DR areas.
http://www.mapsofworld.com/lat_long/dominican-republic-lat-long.html

And this one with a map of the DR with its lat/long. http://hurricane.accuweather.com/phoenix2/images/hurricane/tracking/caribbean.pdf

So, with this information maybe we can come up with definitive answers of how the hurricanes hit the DR to get the list 100% right.

Maybe Chris, who has a better grasp of lat/longitude can give a corrected list of hurricanes hitting the DR and how they made landfall here.

So far, the updated list that we now have on dr1 is:

Jeanne (Category 1). 16 September 2004. East Coast, Samana and Puerto Plata.
Georges. (Category 3). 22 September 1998. 190 km/h. Santo Domingo and La Romana on the southeastern coast.
Hortense. (Category 1). 10 September 1996. East coast from Punta Cana to Samana. 148 km/h.
Gilbert. (Category 3). 11 September 1988. Barahona on the southwestern coast, with winds of 200 kph.
Emely. (Category 4). 22 September 1987. Bani on the southwestern coast, winds of 220 kph.
David. (Category 4). 31 August 1979. 240 km/h. Santo Domingo on the south central coast.
Beulah. (Category 4). 10-11 September 1967. Barahona on the western coast with winds of 225 kms per hour.
Inez. (Category 3). 29 September 1966. Barahona on the western coast, winds of 204 kph.
Edith. (Category 2). 26-27 September 1963. La Romana on the southeastern coast, winds of 160 kph.
Katie. (Category 1). 16 October 1955. Barahona on the western coast, winds of 125 kph.
San Zenon. (Category 3). 3 September 1930. 200 km/h. Santo Domingo on the southcentral coast.
Lili. 21 September 1894. Primarily affecting Santo Domingo and the southwestern coast.
 

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Emily.
12 16.70 -69.10 09/22/18Z 110 958 HURRICANE-3
13 17.80 -70.40 09/23/00Z 105 960 HURRICANE-3
14 19.00 -71.50 09/23/06Z 70 984 HURRICANE-1

David.
20 16.00 -64.20 08/30/06Z 140 925 HURRICANE-5
21 16.30 -65.20 08/30/12Z 145 924 HURRICANE-5
22 16.60 -66.20 08/30/18Z 150 924 HURRICANE-5
23 16.80 -67.30 08/31/00Z 145 927 HURRICANE-5
24 17.00 -68.30 08/31/06Z 145 928 HURRICANE-5
25 17.20 -69.10 08/31/12Z 145 927 HURRICANE-5
26 17.90 -69.70 08/31/18Z 150 926 HURRICANE-5

Georges.
28 18.00 -67.40 09/22/06Z 95 972 HURRICANE-2
29 18.20 -68.50 09/22/12Z 105 964 HURRICANE-3
30 18.60 -69.70 09/22/18Z 95 970 HURRICANE-2
31 18.80 -70.80 09/23/00Z 70 980 HURRICANE-1

Question: With what category did these storms make landfall in the dR?

Tip: The Dominican Republic is located between 72 to 68 western geographic longitude and 17 to 20 northern geographic latitude. The latitude and longitude of the capital, Santo Domingo, are about 69.56 W and 18.30 N. La Romana is at 18.24N and 68.56W, Puerto Plata is 18.34N and 68.21W, Santiago is 19.28N and 70.4W, Barahona is 18.1N and 71.06W, Monte Cristi is 19.5N and 71.38W.
 
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