Dollarization seems to be closer than close

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A though dilemma

A weak dollar? The current weakness of the dollar is a result of two factors:

1) The uncertainty in capital markets regarding the short to medium term of the US economy. As mentioned by ltsnyder and myself, the majority of outstanding debt of the US government is currently in the hands of non-US entities. Currently the US are the largest debtor in the world. Because of various causes (Afghanistan, Iraq, stimulation of the economy) they are currently adding to this debt, instead of trying to balance or even reduce it.

The non-US entities are beginning to wonder whether the current US policy of overspending (Bush inherited a balanced budget from Clinton) and thus increasing the debt for future generations is wise. After all, the interest payments on this debt need to be met and will place a heavy burden on the US-government spending and taxation of future generations. Actually, this in not unlike what you see happening in the DR at the moment.

It is the opinion of outside investors the right course would be to balance the budget and to cut spending and free up governement income for policy instead of creating more debt and commiting governement income for years to come to interest payments.

2) Low interest rates. Low interest rates when compared to the EU mean that the return on investment will nominally be lower than in the EU. In the past this effect was countered by the strenght of the US economy vis-?-vis other economies, which lead to in increase in value of the underlying investment to compensate this. Currently the opinion in the market is that this is less the case than in the past.

As a result of these two factors the outside investors are less attracted to US investments at the current interest rate. To compensate for lack of return at the current dollar price, the dollar price is lowered through the capital markets, in effect increasing the return on investments.

While over the long-term the outlook for the US-economy is undimished strong (in part due to a better balance between workforce and inactives, less legislative constraints, higher inovative potential, etc.), the short to medium term is what concerns markets at the moment.

The positive side to this for the US is that a weak dollar is a boon for the US economy because exporting is made easier and the payment of debt to oustide investors is made at a discount. This increases the US-economic health.

The same could be said for the DR, if the exporting industry was more developed.

MD
 

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Wasn't the Subject Dollarization?

ltsnyder said:
I disagree with this commet, while I whole heartetly agree with the comments about a xenophobic tendency of europe, greying population and non -lazefair practices there.
I wondered how it would take before you jumped right off the cliff. Most of this post is too unfocused to be able to reply to sensibly. But the weak dollar is a big plus to the U.S. economy at this time. If it had not been weak, official policy would have been put in place to lower it's relative value to do exactly what most others of us are seeing happening now - the rebound of the U.S. economy.

The latest economic forecast by the Conference Board Chief Economist Gail Fosler, released yesterday to more than 2,500 corporate members of their global business network in 66 nations said:

"... real [US] GDP growth will hit 5.7% next year, making 2004 the best year economically in the last 20 years."

"The Conference Board forecast also notes that as the U.S. economy bounces back, so is Europe, although growth will be subdued compared to most other major parts of the world. 'For all the concern about a weak dollar,' says Fosler, 'the dollar will be worth more than the euro by the end of the year.'"


So that's that.

Now, repeating the question, what does this have to do with dollarization of the Dominican economy?

Tom (aka XR)

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I agree. Strong recovery of the US economy (helped by a weak dollar) will lead to a recovery of dollar values.

Not sure about the timing though....

Back to dollarization of the DR. It will never happen because it will rob whoever is running the show from control over fixing exchange rates (a nice money pump) and partitioning shares of the economy through leveraged distribution of 'new money'.

Countervailing forces from the business community may not be strong enough to overcome these advantages for the government.

MD


PS: Annaul growth of 5.7% is in dollars. So if you're a Euro man investing in dollars, you would for now still lose money due to the slide of the dollar vs Euro.
 

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my 3rd cent

Now, repeating the question, what does this have to do with dollarization of the Dominican economy?

Some one made what I considered a incorrect statement, and I decided to try to rectify it. On the topic . . . .

The DR is strongly allied (currently) with the US, I can see the economy (as it is now) pegging prices with the dollar, I could never see the Euro being used for that, unless the contract involved a European partner.

As far as the White Paper with economic growth predictions for the US in 2004, that and $2.50 will get you a cup of coffe at StarBuck.

-Lee
 

jsizemore

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hippo not dumb

I see from exchange rate that it has hit 48 in some places. So basically all those people that got the government bonds at the exchange rate of 40 would have had to get a return of 25% in the last three weeks to break even. So if the government pays off the loans now, they could pocket twenty cents on the dollar. Maybe the government is not as dumb as we thought.

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John;

What you're seeing, at the 48/1 exchange rate is the 'black market' at work. OANADA.COM is reporting 40.169/1 as of a few minutes ago.
I think we'll see a stabilization of around 50/1 by the end of Febrero, perhaps sooner. Hippo WANTS the rate to go up because of the remunerations he has promised (to be paid in Pesos) and the climbing rate is right down his alley!

Comments, anyone?????

Texas Bill
 

jsizemore

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yahoo has exchange rate @42.60000. Look if Hippo can get the IMf to give him a big loan and he uses that to pay off the bonds he has an imiade gain of %20 or more. The IMF loans are usually low interest so another little clip. Now if He can say get the loans and circulate the money say mid April then he effecitvely bough the votes of everyone. Remember the American Elction saying Vote early and vote often.
 
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Hippo should not use the IMF money

to pay for domestic loans. He should pay for the domestic loans with worthless Domenican pesos, which he can print as much as he likes. Inflation going up is good him, he can pay off his loans at even higher discounts!

The IMF money should go towards paying external loans as these are still in dollars, these creditors won't accept the worthless peso payments so he needs dollars there!

MD