So what is the point, please explain for a foreigner that speak bad English.
I am very sure that at least 80 % of married or relationship with a foreigner is based mostly on money..
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So what is the point, please explain for a foreigner that speak bad English.
I am very sure that at least 80 % of married or relationship with a foreigner is based mostly on money..
First of all....the desire to make a quick buck instead of working for the long term is a phenom shared in all cultures and even perhaps guiding us into the worst global economic crisis in century...yes even multinationals are guilty of this.
As far as relationships? If you are serious you would not start with a puta to develope a relationship. There are 1000 s upon 1000s of decent sweet girls here (and in the US even) ready and willing to screw you out of your money over the long haul....and with luck, an acute eye, and a genuine empathetic love for people (dominicans), you could even find just a nice girl....but getting to know people takes time, there are good and bad people everywhere.
As far as relationships? If you are serious you would not start with a puta to develope a relationship. There are 1000 s upon 1000s of decent sweet girls here (and in the US even) ready and willing to screw you out of your money over the long haul....and with luck, an acute eye, and a genuine empathetic love for people (dominicans), you could even find just a nice girl....but getting to know people takes time, there are good and bad people everywhere.
Bwhahahahhahaha very good, Tamborista, and echoed my sentiments (um, the English aspect, anyway)
. You describe Dominicans in such a negative light, but why not take a look at yourself? If you came here to live, you came here 'warts and all'. Of course we all have a right to complain, but maybe it's time to open your eyes - and your mind - and see that not ALL Dominicans can be portrayed this same way. It's this closed-mindedness that makes Dominicans resentful of ex-pats...and that's a sad thing.
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I feel sorry for many Dominicans, street vendors, shop sellers, hookers..motochonos
Many of them are really poor and have families to support.
Like many of this hookers that get a child when they are very young and struggle to support their child.
I want this Dominicans to get more money and have a better life, it is hard now, in period like this when it is few tourists.
If the street vendors and shop sellers had not scared away tourist with their aggressive behavior, could they sold more. or the motochono doesn't foul you , would they also make more money...
Hahaha,, your are completely right. lol...I never said my Spanish was perfect either, but I speak better English and Spanish than i write..
I little tried of that people start to make jokes about my not perfect English, to make cheap points in a discussion.
Think if i should comment all the times I hear foreigners speaking stupid and bad Spanish...
This post illustrates one of the major problems of this site (in my mind), which is namely this: there is a difference as to what is acceptable to the owner and others such as the moderator, AND many others who use the site occasionally, but would use it more if people such as this OP were banned.
The moderator should not have given the OP advice. This validated his post. Likewise, if this OP is not banned from the site, then really DR1 says this behavior (use of prostitutes) is acceptable and can be part of DR1. If the goal of this site is to increase membership and make money, then it would be wise to reevaluate procedure. My guess is that members such as this contribute little and offend many. I believe as well many do not use the site or use it less due to posters like this.
This is constructive criticism- nothing more. This is a useful site and I would like to see it thrive.
The moderator should not have given the OP advice. This validated his post. Likewise, if this OP is not banned from the site, then really DR1 says this behavior (use of prostitutes) is acceptable and can be part of DR1. If the goal of this site is to increase membership and make money, then it would be wise to reevaluate procedure. My guess is that members such as this contribute little and offend many. I believe as well many do not use the site or use it less due to posters like this.
This is constructive criticism- nothing more. This is a useful site and I would like to see it thrive.
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Don't be stupid, the whores of Sosua are in prime location, they have stashes bigger than you could manage to roll out of your safe. Motoconchos, lol, sh1t buddy, let me give you a bit of advice, there is a reason that 99% of expats and regular visitors don't mix with lower life forms, coz they are scum, ALL of them. Never make friends with anyone in Sosua who doesn't have a better job than you.
You are as daft as the OP, the use of prostitutes is the reason men go to Sosua, infact I would guess 90% of the men on this site at one point or another have paid for sex in this country, yes the use of prostitutes is all to often topic of the thread here, but it actually is a huge part of the reason this place is popular with certain people, men and women alike.
Your post is not constructive criticism, it is naive.
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I wanted to post this in the thread "Dominicans don't want my money...", but before i finished you closed it. I think what I wrote is some nice info, not just for the OP but in general, so if you could please post it under my name it would be appreciated. Thank you.
"Originally Posted by Chrismic "
So what is the point, please explain for a foreigner that speak bad English.
I am very sure that at least 80 % of married or relationship with a foreigner is based mostly on money..
OK, I will explain it to you. In this world, we live by two norms. One set of norms are social norms and other set are market norms. In social norms, the actions are guided by common good and greater good. Favors, for example, are part of social norms. Tit for tat is part of the market norm. When you are among friends and ask one to go to colmado to get new case of beer, you give him money for the beer but the service - go, buy, bring - is a favor. You do not pay your friend 50 or 100 pesos to go and buy that case. but you DO pay that to the delivery boy in a form of tip. But that's market norm. When you mix social norms and market norms, disaster happens.
You cannot have a girlfriend (social norm term) and pay her money for her being your girlfriend. That's no longer a girlfriend, because we are moving from social norms to market norms, and then the world girlfriend does not apply. Then, a new - market norm term - applies. That can be as nice as escort or as ugly as whore.
I was pointing out that you wanted a steady relationship with a hooker. That is simply not possible. It's impossible to mix social and market norms and have any normal result out of that. You either live in social norms world - you have a girlfriend, or you live in market norms world - you have a hooker.
About the dinner I mentioned. If you are INVITED to a dinner and asked to come at 8 pm, you maybe bring a bottle of wine, ponche (in DR), whisky, whatever, but you do NOT, at the end of dinner take out your wallet and pull out a 100 dollar bill. You do that in a restaurant (market norms) not when you are invited to a dinner (social norms). Bringing whiskey, wine, ponche, or even some fittings for the dinner is OK, because GIFTS fail within the scope of social norms. It's the MONETARY terms that moves social norms into market norms.
One important thing, once social norms are torn apart and market norms are set, it's hard to get back to social norms. Example: if you have a flat tire and a friend stops by and asks you if you need help, and he helps you, if you offer him money you may insult him, but more importantly, you are moving social norms situation into market norms situation. Next time you have flat tire and he stops by to help, he will EXPECT you to pay him the money.
Anyway, if you have not got the point till now, sorry for you. I recommend you Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely, ISBN 978-0061353246.
I wanted to post this in the thread "Dominicans don't want my money...", but before i finished you closed it. I think what I wrote is some nice info, not just for the OP but in general, so if you could please post it under my name it would be appreciated. Thank you.
"Originally Posted by Chrismic "
So what is the point, please explain for a foreigner that speak bad English.
I am very sure that at least 80 % of married or relationship with a foreigner is based mostly on money..
OK, I will explain it to you. In this world, we live by two norms. One set of norms are social norms and other set are market norms. In social norms, the actions are guided by common good and greater good. Favors, for example, are part of social norms. Tit for tat is part of the market norm. When you are among friends and ask one to go to colmado to get new case of beer, you give him money for the beer but the service - go, buy, bring - is a favor. You do not pay your friend 50 or 100 pesos to go and buy that case. but you DO pay that to the delivery boy in a form of tip. But that's market norm. When you mix social norms and market norms, disaster happens.
You cannot have a girlfriend (social norm term) and pay her money for her being your girlfriend. That's no longer a girlfriend, because we are moving from social norms to market norms, and then the world girlfriend does not apply. Then, a new - market norm term - applies. That can be as nice as escort or as ugly as whore.
I was pointing out that you wanted a steady relationship with a hooker. That is simply not possible. It's impossible to mix social and market norms and have any normal result out of that. You either live in social norms world - you have a girlfriend, or you live in market norms world - you have a hooker.
About the dinner I mentioned. If you are INVITED to a dinner and asked to come at 8 pm, you maybe bring a bottle of wine, ponche (in DR), whisky, whatever, but you do NOT, at the end of dinner take out your wallet and pull out a 100 dollar bill. You do that in a restaurant (market norms) not when you are invited to a dinner (social norms). Bringing whiskey, wine, ponche, or even some fittings for the dinner is OK, because GIFTS fail within the scope of social norms. It's the MONETARY terms that moves social norms into market norms.
One important thing, once social norms are torn apart and market norms are set, it's hard to get back to social norms. Example: if you have a flat tire and a friend stops by and asks you if you need help, and he helps you, if you offer him money you may insult him, but more importantly, you are moving social norms situation into market norms situation. Next time you have flat tire and he stops by to help, he will EXPECT you to pay him the money.
Anyway, if you have not got the point till now, sorry for you. I recommend you Predictably Irrational by Dan Ariely, ISBN 978-0061353246.
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Sorry you feel like that, but that was not my intention.
I was focusing on Chrismic low end social circle, which is the same for 90% of the expats that live in Sosua. Most of these guys wouldn't last 5 mins in Santo Domingo or Santiago.
Yes, I think we are all aware Sosua has some great developments and decent expats.
I just wish some of those "decent expats" would be more vocal on DR1 and be more active in changing the tone of Sosua.
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