chris..i've got what i wanted and more from my original thread..i just felt that i had to respond on just how i feel...as a person ..let alone a american. i have a pretty thick skin... and was not offended by some of the posts..on the contrary..they were eye openers. i just don't feel that it is right ...because of their nationality..to paint people with the same brush..because you don't agree with their countries politics or their way of life..or how they tip or smell..it's like blaming the rooster for the sun not coming up in the morning.thanks