Girl Missing from RIU Hotel in Punta Cana

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Ecoman1949 said:
High stakes for sure. This should be a wake up call for all DR agencies involved in the investigation, including DR Tourism, and AI resort owners. You cant do the minimum and expect incidents like this to go away quickly. Once outside enforcement agencies get involved the media frenzy starts and things can get out of hand quickly. If the family of the missing young lady files a lawsuit against the resort for negligence or the Riibe family files a lawsuit against the Justice department for unlawful detention, it will be even more of a wake-up call. Whether they heed it when they respond to the next high profile drowning accident remains to be seen. The unrestricted flow of alcohol mixed with young people trying to compress as much fun as they can into one week makes a deadly mix.
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A lawsuit against the Dominican government for anything is a waste of time.

While the hotel is in the DR, I think it belongs to Riu (unless they simply sell their name to be used) and that company is based in Spain. Such lawsuit would have to take place there than in the DR, no?
 
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A Lawsuit would not work .. its been discussed by legal Scholars .. ( no Im not going to post a Link ,so G FY )
You would have to prove not just Negligence, the bar is much Higher ,. to the level of "RECKLESSNESS" .
Very difficult .
Although it was pointed out that they should have a 24 Hour Security Guard at least Patrolling their Beach once in a while. If for nothing else just to catch people perhaps doing Drugs or passed out or in need of Assistance .. If they wanted to swim with a Red Flag up , you really cant stop them.
but It certainly would have helped in this case to at least prove this young man was actually passed out for 4 hours as he claims.
 
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A Lawsuit would not work .. its been discussed by legal Scholars .. ( no Im not going to post a Link ,so G FY )
You would have to prove not just Negligence, the bar is much Higher ,. to the level of "RECKLESSNESS" .
Very difficult .
Although it was pointed out that they should have a 24 Hour Security Guard at least Patrolling their Beach once in a while. If for nothing else just to catch people perhaps doing Drugs or passed out or in need of Assistance .. If they wanted to swim with a Red Flag up , you really cant stop them.
but It certainly would have helped in this case to at least prove this young man was actually passed out for 4 hours as he claims.
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It isn’t that. A lawsuit against the Dominican government in Dominican court, the government never loses. It doesn’t matter if the government is at fault.

Add to that many Dominican lawyers are experts at stalling cases. They focus on the tiniest minutiae in any of the documents which must be corrected before the trial continues, and it isn’t something that can be corrected and resume the trial on the same day. They can stall and re-stall and re-stall for years. They are basically betting that the person that is suing lose hope and then decides to drop the lawsuit despite the lawsuit would had been successful had it not been stalled for so long.
 
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Several US media outlets, Facebook, and People.com are reporting he is back home.
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All the ones I've seen are from yesterday when he left the DR saying he is going home. He was, until they detained him in PR to analyze his phone.. I haven't seen any reports that he's left PR yet(?).
 
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As said in the article linked in #1228, he turned over his phone to the investigators here in the DR. It was not returned, nor was his passport. Another article (not going to look for it...) said that investigators in Puerto Rico (think of it as CSI, I don't know what acronym) was going to assist the DR in analyzing the phone.
 
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If they Still have his Phone, and he is still in Puerto Rico as a Guest of Homeland Security .. then they are still investigating him very closely.
They are using that ONE time Border Cross exemption to the 4th Amend , REAL Hard..
See Post # 1214 by Jose 949.. it spells it out pretty clearly for those who bothered to read it .

As much as some people dont seem to mind being made fools of by prematurely and gleefully celebrating.
.. Homeland Security does not play that game, of having a Narrative .

Essentially he seems to be a Guest of Homeland Security or we would have heard or seen photos of him BACK HOME with his Father etc.
No ? Or does he live at a Secret Location now ??
Cleared of all wrong doing , makes News back home . no ?



Good PART for Joshua is ., IF they release him and give him back his Phone, and he makes it back to Mainland.. He is probably Cleared Completely at that point .

Really too soon to say if the Fat Lady has sung yet .
 
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He and his father are probably sitting down to a large carbo diet exclaiming to each other how they were victimized by the P.D and scapegoated. The father never gave his son the gentleman talk, clearly. When my generation started dating, we were told early on that it was your responsibility to return the girl back home to the parents before midnight in the same condition (physically anyway) as when you checked her out. No matter where you took her, movies, lovers' lane etc, return the girl. These traits carried on to college and beyond. Whatever happened he failed. He escorted her to the beach, and it was his responsibility to bring her back in similar condition. It is no different than him getting behind the wheel of a car and crashing into a tree. He was responsible for the 120-pound life.
 
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He and his father are probably sitting down to a large carbo diet exclaiming to each other how they were victimized by the P.D and scapegoated. The father never gave his son the gentleman talk, clearly. When my generation started dating, we were told early on that it was your responsibility to return the girl back home to the parents before midnight in the same condition (physically anyway) as when you checked her out. No matter where you took her, movies, lovers' lane etc, return the girl. These traits carried on to college and beyond. Whatever happened he failed. He escorted her to the beach, and it was his responsibility to bring her back in similar condition. It is no different than him getting behind the wheel of a car and crashing into a tree. He was responsible for the 120-pound life.
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The 1950s?
I don't know when the last time was you had a conversation with a young man in his early twenties but I can assure you, they are no longer wired this way.
 
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The law firm Guzman Ariza confirmed Riibe and his father arrived home. https://people.com/joshua-riibe-sudiksha-konanki-returns-united-states-11700086

If he was still detained by Homeland Security, surely there would be some media coverage of that. I can't imagine his father just sitting by quietly if that were the case.
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The article you stated is an old article. Look at the date, yesterday around noon. I would not put too much stock that he is actually in Iowa now.............
 
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They left on the 19th...could have caught a morning flight yesterday (20th), and been home or at least on the mainland. No reason to hang around in PR. Again, no way the media would be silent if he were still "detained" by Homeland Security. Not something I'm going to argue about though :)
 
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JLSawmam said:
The law firm Guzman Ariza confirmed Riibe and his father arrived home. https://people.com/joshua-riibe-sudiksha-konanki-returns-united-states-11700086

If he was still detained by Homeland Security, surely there would be some media coverage of that. I can't imagine his father just sitting by quietly if that were the case.
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What makes you think they are always in the know ?
More Likely if he were HOME at his HOUSE , they would be over There to interview him, and ask how he feels about his Ordeal .
again I ask , is his Home such a deep secret? Have the media turned a new Leaf where they wont Harass people for an Interview .
Not a single Reporter thought to interview him yet ?
that is a lot more strange .
The Media is completely silent because they are being told Nothing, so they know nothing.
 
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I guess for now he had enough of media attention and is in a place nobody knows about. He won’t go to his home unless he is prepared to face the media circus.
 
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jd426 said:
What makes you think they are always in the know ?
More Likely if he were HOME at his HOUSE , they would be over There to interview him, and ask how he feels about his Ordeal .
again I ask , is his Home such a deep secret? Have the media turned a new Leaf where they wont Harass people for an Interview .
Not a single Reporter thought to interview him yet ?
that is a lot more strange .
The Media is completely silent because they are being told Nothing, so they know nothing.
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Google his name. He's home..
 
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