How much does it take to live 'comfortably' on a Monthly basis in D.R.??

ExtremeR

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ExtremeR, rubbish, you can live extremely well on 2,700 in SD. As was mentioned a lot depends on rent. I know people who live a couple of minutes from me, same size house but different neighbours and pay 5 times and more what I pay. I have the same sized house, garden, but my neighbours are working lower class Dominicans. Security guards, police, builders and mechanics. If you want to live next to Charles and Shirley retired from Texas or London then you can pay 6 times what I do and be just down the road, if you don't mind mixing it up with the locals and living completely independently away from your security blankets then you can do that also, much cheaper.

Anastacio, where do you live in SD, where did you get a 2 bedroom apartment for RD$7,000.00. That's almost impossible unless you wander in a barrio. What's the name of the barrio? El 8? El 9? I know for a fact that you won't find that price in Miramar.

I'm also taking into account the cost of a family of 4, not of an individual.
 

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3 bed 2 bathroom house, 7000 pesos. Bills Inc 4000 pesos. Food 16000-20000. Family of 3 in santo Domingo.

Why some people here try to misinform?
7,000 pesos for a 3br house you can find maybe in Capotillo.
He is talking about to live confortable. I understand he wants to live as medium or upper middle dominican class.
So, bills is not 4,000 pesos.
phone+internet+cable in multiplan basico is 3,200
Electricity with 2 air cond. 6,000 minimun.
2 Cel phone 2,000each if they do not speak much
BB data 1000 pesos
Propane gas 1000
Maint. 2,000 or more.
Bills for medium class here comes to 16,000-20,000 pesos a month.

Gas for a SUV (not recommend car in SD) 500pesos minimun a day if you just go to groceries, gym, etc. 15,000 a month
 
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Anastacio

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Why some people here try to misinform?
7,000 pesos for a 3br house you can find maybe in Capotillo.
He is talking about to live confortable. I understand he wants to live as medium or upper middle dominican class.
So, bills is not 4,000 pesos.
phone+internet+cable in multiplan basico is 3,200
Electricity with 2 air cond. 6,000 minimun.
2 Cel phone 2,000each if they do not speak much
BB data 1000 pesos
Propane gas 1000
Maint. 2,000 or more.
Bills for medium class here comes to 16,000-20,000 pesos a month.

Gas for a SUV (not recommend car in SD) 500pesos minimun a day if you just go to groceries, gym, etc. 15,000 a month

You live a very different life to me with those numbers. My point is if we can live on this then 2700us is more than enough to live very very comfortably.

Everyone seems to know stuff on here that they haven't experienced. With those numbers then you obviously have never even tried to live a budgeted lifestyle here, so how would you know. We don't live in a barrio and we are not in miramar (although we were temp in miramar).
I suggest getting your walking boots on, you may be surprised what you can find out there if you are prepared to leave your life before here behind and mix it up with the reality here.
 

Anastacio

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You are misinforming by stating you need all that money to live here. You don't, but if you want to bring back home with you then maybe you would. Both ends of the scale may show a balance he can read between and find his own living standards.
 

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You are misinforming by stating you need all that money to live here. You don't, but if you want to bring back home with you then maybe you would. Both ends of the scale may show a balance he can read between and find his own living standards.

I am just trying to be realistic.
I will like that you do your math and tell me how a gringo can live confortably here paying 4,000pesos in bills.
Confortably means that you need at least 1 air cond. 8 hours of use (just to sleep), and your bill will be around 5-6000pesos a month.
if you dont use AC, them you can have a 1000pesos elect. bill. (but you wont sleep confortably in a 100F degree, humid and mosquitos)
you can save not having cable tv. be prepared to learn spanish fluent to see local channels with Novelas and merengue 24 hours.
you can save the 1000 pesos in gas. cooking with lena as haitian do it.

Santo domingo is an expensive city to live. I am a medium class, and need at least 3,000 dlls to live without the confort I would live for much less in fort lauderdale or miami.
 

Anastacio

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We don't have a/c, really doesn't bother us, I installed big ceiling fans and my daughter has never known anything different so doesn't bother her. 1000pesos on gas? Are you sure, what on earth are you cooking on?
Electricity is just over 1000pesos a month. Internet 1128pesos, cable 685pesos. I actually need to look into this with trogon as I think we can get a much better combo deal from them.
I can see people don't adjust as much as I have had to to Dominican living, a drop in standards if you like, but I have and yes it takes a while to adjust, but once you have it is just another place to live.
 

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Santo domingo is an expensive city to live. I am a medium class, and need at least 3,000 dlls to live without the confort I would live for much less in fort lauderdale or miami.

Well that's a different thread, I mentioned on another thread that to live equivalent here to my expectation in the UK would be much much more expensive. We are discussing what we can live in here, not comparisons.

You need 3000 to live without comforts, I need 1000 with a family of three. Maybe I manage money better than you, maybe you drink a lot or enjoy the casino? I dunno, but if we had a 3000 budget then I guess we could save a fortune.
 

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The above discussion highlights the difference in perceptions and how much that could add to that "live comfortable" budget. I could be comfortable with regular fans (I actually don't like air conditioning that much), but Johnny couldn't live without it thus he needs to add another 3-4k a month just for that.
 

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If I wanted to live like I did in Tampa, I'd have stayed in Tampa.
 
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I am just trying to be realistic.
I will like that you do your math and tell me how a gringo can live confortably here paying 4,000pesos in bills.
Confortably means that you need at least 1 air cond. 8 hours of use (just to sleep), and your bill will be around 5-6000pesos a month.
if you dont use AC, them you can have a 1000pesos elect. bill. (but you wont sleep confortably in a 100F degree, humid and mosquitos)
you can save not having cable tv. be prepared to learn spanish fluent to see local channels with Novelas and merengue 24 hours.
you can save the 1000 pesos in gas. cooking with lena as haitian do it.

Santo domingo is an expensive city to live. I am a medium class, and need at least 3,000 dlls to live without the confort I would live for much less in fort lauderdale or miami.

Mentira! My electric bill comes to 900 pesos for 110V power, 3 BR apartment, and RD$1.200 more-or-less for AC, 1 unit, 18000 BTU. I turn it on whenever I am home and feel hot! I do no have it on 8 hours during nite, I put on 1 hour self timer. I use 2-3 cycles during the evening. By 12 midnight the room is very comfortable. By 5 am in the morning the room is quite cold! That's with 3 one-hour cycles. Now when it's extremely hot I may use more, but then compensate when it's raining (like today) and almost don't use AC at all. So my powerbill is about 2.100 pesos.

My gas for cooking comes at about 250 pesos per month. And the stove runs many hours per day.

I get water from public system for which there is no charge and when necessary buy a truckload of water. Monthly cost about 300 pesos because we alternate.

My phone with Internet is 1300 pesos with taxes, local line plus 512 kbps Internet. Sufficient for my home use, I can use VOIP well and I even download something form megaupload now and then. Now you can have 512 kbps Internet form Orange for 850 pesos including taxes.

I have pirated satellite TV so I don't pay for TV. Anyway, cable is about 500 pesos per month. I was offered to "share" the subscription by the neighbors so that's an option in case satellite TV goes down or something.

My rent is 9000 pesos for the whole-floor 3 BR apartment, about 1300 sq ft (130 sq mts) in one of the best neighborhoods in Higuey (yes, it was a steal-deal I know).

My cellphone is 1800 pesos with taxes for 1000 minutes and unlimited in-fleet calling. I do about 1500 minutes per month of infleet and 900-1000 minutes of outside calling from callphone.

I use VOIP to call USA, Europe, etc. and now even the Dominican Republic for just 370 pesos per month, unlimited! Better quality than Vonage. No long term contract. I was up and running in less than 5 minutes. I will make a post about this service in the next few days. I can use the same account to call from ATA adapter, softphone and even my Nokia cellphone over WIFI or GPRS.
Now I am working on awesome integration to link VOIP/GSM gateway, infleet calling, Asterisk server, Wind IP inbound and my VOIP outbound into one neat system that will allow me to make and receive free international calls on my cellphone anywhere in the DR, including calls onto US or other international numbers, all received at no cost to caller and no cost to me, and will also allow me to receive calls from my DR number when i travel abroad for free at no roaming charge! When I have this system running I will post details. I hope I will have time to complete the setup by Christmas so I can use it when I go visit my family.

My fuel costs are about 800 pesos per week, gasoline for scooter and gas (LPG) for car. I move around quite a lot. RT to Santo Domingo including city driving is about 1400 pesos in LPG.

Clothing I buy online e.g. aeropostale.com, plus some jeans in La Sirena or Lama when I find something I like, or I go to Megacentro.

Household help here is 4000 to 5000 pesos per month, 6 days a week, 9 to 7 job.

You can buy cheap food when you know how and where. Advantage of living in a smaller city is that you have all big supermarkets and farmer's market nearby and you can take advantage of promotions. Like today yucca at 3.95 pesos per pound in supermarket or plantains for 3 pesos, or huge platanos from the truck for 5 pesos (yes, I buy yucca and platanos because I love pure de yuca and mang?)!!!!. Yesterday tomatoes at 6.95 pesos per pound. Rice at 14 pesos per pound. I can get dominican churrasco at 60 pesos per pound, pierna de cerdo for 50 pesos per pound, both in the local market. I can buy potatoes for 14 pesos perpound when I buy 20 pounds in the market, when the supermarket charges 21 per pound. Chicken for 38 per pound when it's for 50 per pound in supermarket. I switched from Cyclon energy drinks first to Gladiator then to 911 and now to MegaEnergy which is made by the same company that makes Cyclon and even tastes the same but is bottled in Trinidad, 20oz bottle for just 22 pesos compared to small Cyclon can for 50. I can but pork chops for 60 0n Thursdays when they are on special and I can get basic meds (like basic antibiotics, painkillers, anti-inflamatory, etc.) in PromeseCal farmacy a full bag of stuff for 100 or 150 pesos. You have to know where to shop for what and when, and you can buy 3 HUUUUGE bags of veggies for 300 pesos like I did yesterday or come home with 20 pounds of fresh meat for 800-1000 pesos.
 
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"Get yourself a lcd TV screen that you can use with computer. Now you can watch your downloaded latest movies right at home. Connect good pc amplified speakers and you have good music as well. So your laptop will act like music / video entertainment center. Watch streaming videos of your choice on big screen. get an hdmi cable and watch your (hdmi ready) laptop contents on full hd lcd Tv screen. watch movies and all. Connect magicjack and now you have an american line. Connect to badoo.com and now you have an instant girlfriend willing to meet you. Make sure your neighbor has a nice sized mango, aguacate and guava tree. Now you have fruits and aguacate for free. make sure your girlfriend has a real job so she won't use you as ATM machine."

LOL!! Funny, but actually very practical and useful points. I actually already use my Mac as an entertainment hub, and I have a Monitor that takes all typs of inputs so I can switch from TV to Video to PC etc. I have never heard of badoo.com but hopefully I will be able to scrape up enough charm for an actual girlfriend when the time comes. Thanks for the input, useful stuff.
 

elbachatero6504

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Thanks for the detailed breakdown. Everyone does have a different description of comfortable, but everyone has given me a very good (and consistent) basis. And as mentioned I'm sure where I go will have a bearing on my bills and expenses. Thanks for the input.
 

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I see you love bachata music. Here is a better deal: forget about music system in you home. Just move next to a colmado and you will hear latest bachata music all day, plus la fria is within 15 steps walking distance. When there is a black-out and the music system is shut down, you will hear live bachata songs sang my the employees all day. make sure the employees are not haitians or you will be out of luck.
AZB
 

elbachatero6504

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lol! Yes, even better. Yes I love bachata music, and I could see myself visiting the local Colmado more for the music and to dance that drink una fria.....although I'm not ruling that out either. lol