internet&satalite connections?

blanca

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Hi,
I will be living in the campo near Payita. There are no phone lines.
How will i be able to acess the internet? I s it possible? Also is there a company that provides satilight connections in the campo?
I have heard i can get a dish here and use my Miami address to pay the bill fere and have the service there? But is there one in Nagua who could provide the service?

Thanking you in advance,

Blanca
 

Hillbilly

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When you see a post by [b]Chris[/b]

Send them an email or a PM , they are very very knowledgable on this theme.

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dandrade

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Just need a dish

You may choose from two types of Satellite data communication (Sat Comm):

-One way Sat Comm. You will need a phone line. Data is uploaded via phone and downloaded via satellite-antenna
Cost: phone line monthly fee (?), Internet Service Provider monthly fee (+- U$60), One time antenna setup (+-U$200) and shipping cost (?) . 36" Antenna free.

-Two way Sat Comm. Upload/download via Satellite/Antenna. Cost: Internet Service Provider monthly fee (?), One time antenna setup (?), Antenna with receiver (U$2000), shipping cost (?).

Satellite signal spectrum is very good in the DR.
 

Chris

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Re: Just need a dish

dandrade said:
You may choose from two types of Satellite data communication (Sat Comm):

-One way Sat Comm. You will need a phone line. Data is uploaded via phone and downloaded via satellite-antenna
Cost: phone line monthly fee (?), Internet Service Provider monthly fee (+- U$60), One time antenna setup (+-U$200) and shipping cost (?) . 36" Antenna free.

Dandrade, the small antennas do not work down here with any reliability. The 'do-it-yourself' one-way solution from DirecWay does not function here with any reliability. You may be lucky and get a signal for a moment or so, but you won't maintain it. If you want to try, I have a number of abandoned small dishes lying around that you may use to try.

The one way solution is also too costly for here. You need a local service provider, a phone, a satellite installation, and a satellite service provider. There are better ways to do this.

dandrade said:
-Satellite signal spectrum is very good in the DR..

Although we get excellent signal strength, we are on the edge of the footprint. Do remember there is approx 47,000 miles between us and the nearest commercially available bird. And we are talking about VSAT. Hence you need a 1.2 antenna at least.
 

Eddy

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A min. 10' dish would be required for 2 way. As of today, there are very few people (If any) in the DR who are. The local 10' dishes are not accurate enough. As a matter of fact most have a gain less than a 6' (Imported). Forget it for now. I have heard that maybe the service will be available in 6 months or so. But will be expensive. (Around 5 to 7 US$G's to set up.
 

Paul Thate

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two way intenet Satellite

eddy talk to Adolpho he has been testing two way
satellite on a small dish. It works
he has also finished testing a two way internet connection
on the same dish as direct tv ..
it works .
 

Chris

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Paul, like I said, you will get a connection. And yes, you can do direct tv on the same dish as a satellite connection. I would be grateful if you could tell me what happens when there is cloud cover or when it rains? Does your connection stay up?
 

Paul Thate

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you are right on that.
however at present each time a large truck passes by
it takes my phone line and there fore my flashline down
for days may be even a week.
up till now cloudcover did not last that long.
this happend allready twice this year and codetel refuses
to put the line higher.
 

Eddy

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Paul

I know, but a 10' imported dish. Apparently working great and will be available as per my previous post. (That was supposed to be a secret) LOL
 

Jerry K

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We are using the Internet satellite system in the Turks & Caicos.
In Grand Turk I have a 1.2 meter dish with over 70% signal of course with a downpous she's toast. Skycaster system.
In Providenciales a couple guys have Directway systems on 1.8 meter dishes with almost 90% signal. Beats the hell out of the sole internet provider (Cable & Wireless), they get $35. month for ten hours and $1.25 for each additional.
 

Paul Thate

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Chris
If the system you sell is so great
either ask Robert permission to post links or buy some space and tell us please what it is, how good it is,
what guarantees and how much it cost..

Its clear there is an enormous interest and need
for a dependable service.
 

Chris

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Paul, there is something in the archives about this if you do a search. I'm sorry if this sounded like spam - It was not meant to be spam at all. It is a co-incidental thing that I knew about Jerry's system.

I have received and still get a lot of good advice from this board, and try to give back within the areas of my knowledge.
 

Paul Thate

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no Chris I was serious .. i thought you were in the business.
and I do have an interrest to find more about it and I believe
the board members would have an interest as well.
 

Chris

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Paul, I've responded via e-mail.

Just a few general comments. Dish size has a lot to do with the ability to "attract and amplify" the satelite signal to a correct strength to be able to have a connection significantly strong to maintain in all weather conditions. Currently my own connection stays up in even the most vile weather. The dish has to be knocked over for me to go down. Having said that, I do experience slightly slower connectivity and lower signal strength with heavy cloud cover or rain, or sunspot activity.

In the Caribbean, we are on the edge of the footprint for most available satellites for connectivity. It gets a little easier once you talk about television. However, if you want to do television and internet connectivity on the same dish, you are bound to the satellites that you can aim to, for connectivity. A parabola cannot look into two different directions.

This technology is not fully developed. It takes quite some doing for us involved in this technology, to stay ahead of the curve, both in terms of giving a good service to current customers, as well as getting the prices down to a realistically affordable model.

Usually, your uplink speed differs quite dramatically from your downlink speed. This has to do with the compression algorithms when you 'request' something as well as the way that your connectivity providers (and satelite owners) translate those requests and prioritise them. As I say, the technology known as vsat (very small aparture technology), is very new in terms of individual commercial application.

The first choice is to go land based. This means that if you have DSL or cable modem or T-type lines available for broadband, this should be your first choice. If these services are not dependable or available, then you look to satellite connectivity. The reason for this is that if anyone spends the money to set the infrastructure for a landbased system, they probably will provide the service at a price affordable to the general population. Satellite connectivity requires an initial investment in hardware, and on a monthly basis, is slightly more expensive than what is usual for DSL or cable modem type connectivity.

Some good news, there is quite some development happening in terms of telephone connectivity over satellite - SVoIP. Currently, with the differences in uplink and downlink speeds, (a-synchronous), the service is not acceptable at a reasonable price. It is available for quite some dollars. We expect by mid-year to be testing good telephone connectivity solutions whereby the asynchronous nature of the technology is overcome by certain voice compression algorithms.

Some more good news, over the last year, with improvements in the technology, we've seen a downward pressure on pricing. The prices of this stuff is coming down and will come down even more in future. This trend will take awhile to reach us in the Caribbean but it will reach us.

For anyone contemplating purchasing the hardware and monthly service for satellite connectivity, the words of wisdom would be - check out your suppliers, have they been in business a long time, does their providers show a consistent business background. Check out some of your providers' installations - are their current customers happy. Are your suppliers and installers accredited or do they have certification in what they do? This is new stuff, the "backyard mechanic" probably will not give you a consistent service at this stage of the game. It is not rocket science, but an installation that is substandard, will never make you feel good and productive and will go down all the time.

Thats all I have to say for now. My husband always teases me - he says that he should have married someone who gets excited about jewellery and fur coats - instead, he has someone who gets passionate about business and technology and politics - and good wine.