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[frank12]

And then also the beach would be concrete wall.

I'm not so sure. there is land that sits in-between the highway and the beach--up on a hill. There seems to be enough land there that some nice boutique hotels and restaurants would be better situated with an amazing view of the bay....not to mention where many of the shacks sit near the beach. As it stands right now, there is nothing to do on the beach once the sun goes down. throw in a few high end boutique hotels with big verandas and balconies over-looking the bay, and you will attract people with money who come up every weekend from Santo Domingo and Santiago and Barrick's Gold mine to Cabarete.

and trust me...they're numerous people driving up here every weekend from Barrick's Gold Mine as well as from Santo Domingo and Santiago.

Frank

 

[dv8]

i do not understand. sosua is doing so well and there are so many tourists that more bars are needed? :tired:

nah. if sosua is to ride the ho train then what is needed is more nice little brothels with good looking girls. if sosua is to change to a family destination maybe it needs more businesses dedicated to families?

 

[Seamonkey]

I'm sorry, please take this with a grain of salt as this is just my completely biased, subjective, and unenlightened opinon, but i do not get the enthusiasm for these bars or nightclubs on Pedro Clisante or nearby streets. I don't get sitting on some bar stool staring at a concrete wall or across the street at another concrete wall--and listening to motoconchos with loud mufflers--scream up and down the street in front of you while some music is blaring so unbelievably loud that your mind starts to hallucinate wildly.

No, really, let me tell you what i really think here...this is not good for Sosua, and this is not some old man here reminiscing about old times and old forgotten days of yore. This is about being enclosed with-in the perimiters of concrete, loud music, loud motorcycles, screaming prostitutes, and without the kaleidoscopic visuals of any saphire blue ocean in front of you like we have here Cabarete or Las Terrenas. But again, this is not to promote these towns over Sosua. This is about nightclubs or bars simply throwing up a new facade and fresh concrete up and declaring a new place is now open. Listen, you're still staring across the street at concrete, you're still subjected to immensely loud music at decible level reaching an F-18 taking off, and you're still staring at concrete walls.

If Sosua wanted to do some dramatic renovation, they would completely renovate the beach front and the land sitting directly behind it and make a beach promenade that rivals Ibiza, Miami, St. Tropez, or even Cabarete or Las Terrenas. But what they got now is just a stupid concrete jungle filled with rushing traffic going past with loud exhausts and the visualizations on par with a run down Barrio.

Frank

Frank...please take this with a grain of salt....but your comments are getting old. Seriously, if you have nothing new or nice to say just don't say it. Spare us your drama.

 

[Ken]

Frank...please take this with a grain of salt....but your comments are getting old. Seriously, if you have nothing new or nice to say just don't say it. Spare us your drama.

Well said.

 

[rsg]

One more thing...these new bars or renovated nightclubs are not going to attract new customers from santo domingo, santiago, miami, or new york, instead, all they manage to do is get people to move from one end of the street to another. What you get is the same faces, same people, and same music moved down 100 meters. nothing more.

If you really want to revolutionize the place and attract people from afar, you would need to tear down the beach shacks and completely renovate the beach area from the ground up--all the way up to the street level. Put in some high end boutique hotels over looking Sosua Bay, with big outdoor balconies and nice bars that over-look the beautiful bay--like they have in Ibiza, St. Tropez and even Cabarete and other places--where people sit underneath a canopy of stars overlooking the ocean while listening to nice music.

But what you got now on Pedro Clisante is just a pathetic, amateur, terrible renovation of the same old recipe that has not worked in the past, and will not work in the future.

frank

Spot on frank, It really makes you scratch your head and wonder how the so called leaders of Sosua can let a diamond in the rough like Sosua beach remain a shack filled low rate attraction.Sosua beach has so much potential then what we see today. People hawking cheap rate crap like paintings and other worthless stuff.

They need to level the place and start from scratch.But then again you have to really wonder why would the person who really calls the shots in Sosua would want to upgrade the place when he already has the money maker bar on the strip at this time:ermm:

 

[hammerdown]

Everytime I go to Sosua, there are people on the street. Go to Cabarete and well, there is no one......Talked to a guy from Wales today, and he was saying, "Jose O-Shays was dead on last Friday night".

Its just that someone keeps pluggin Cabarete, and still they don't come......

Now if Cabarete got rid of all the Blue-Shirt vendors on the beach and on the street, maybe someone will come and enjoy the beach of Cabarete, but until then, most people who have experienced the 'mood' (ie. the stupid blue shirts) of Cabarete will stay away or go elsewhere....

Why are they still building bars in Sosua and not Cabarete...???

just my thoughts

 

[frank12]

Frank...please take this with a grain of salt....but your comments are getting old. Seriously, if you have nothing new or nice to say just don't say it. Spare us your drama.

If you feel i've said something incorrect here, or given incorrect information out here, please feel free to pick apart what i've written. as it stands now, i stand by every sentance that i've written and i challenge you, ken, or anyone else here to find any incorrect information of what i've said.

In fact, i'm so convinced that i am right regarding Sosua, that i invite anyone here to tear down my argument which i've laid out regarding the new glorified bars and nightclubs. I think you will find me very humble and apologetic if you can show me how moving or opening two new bars is goiing to increase tourism to sosua? Tell me, how is it going to change the demographics of sosua?

I think i spelled quite accurately the drastic leap needed to change both the demogrpahics of sosua as well as make it more attractive. otherwise, it doesn't make any sense why places like Cabarete and Las Terrenas are getting most of the Santo Domingo and Santiago wealthy families who come up every weekend to enjoy the beach and nightlife. Just look at how many Barrick Gold Mine employees are sitting in Cabarete on the weekends. they are numerous, they are loaded, and they are some of the best customers any restaurant or bar can have. and they're good people as well!!

Frank

 

[xamaicano]

Cabarete sucks. So there.

 

[Tamborista]

If you feel i've said something incorrect here, or given incorrect information out here, please feel free to pick apart what i've written. as it stands now, i stand by every sentance that i've written and i challenge you, ken, or anyone else here to find any incorrect information of what i've said.

In fact, i'm so convinced that i am right regarding Sosua, that i invite anyone here to tear down my argument which i've laid out regarding the new glorified bars and nightclubs. I think you will find me very humble and apologetic if you can show me how moving or opening two new bars is goiing to increase tourism to sosua? Tell me, how is it going to change the demographics of sosua?

I think i spelled quite accurately the drastic leap needed to change both the demogrpahics of sosua as well as make it more attractive. otherwise, it doesn't make sense why places like Cabarete and Las Terrenas are getting most of the Santo Domingo and Santiago and wealthy families who come up every weekend to enjoy the beach and nightlife. Just look at how many Barrick Gold Mine employees are sitting in Cabarete on the weekends. they are numerous, they are loaded, and they are some of the best customers any restaurant or bar can have. and they're good people as well!!

Frank

You really are a broken record dude, get a new routine. Both Sosua & Cabarete each have their own positive attributes, can we phucking leave it @ that, or does it always have to my town is better than yours?

 

[Tailspin]

In fact, i'm so convinced that i am right regarding Sosua, that i invite anyone here to tear down my argument which i've laid out regarding the new glorified bars and nightclubs. I think you will find me very humble and apologetic if you can show me how moving or opening two new bars is going to increase tourism to Sosua? Tell me, how is it going to change the demographics of Sosua?
Frank

Where was that claim ever made or that goal ever stated? It was just a report on what was going on, that was it.

 

[philosopher]

I for one always always like to hear about what's going on in Sosua (keep Posting). I have lived there with my family and enjoyed it. I have been to Caberete and really don't think that it is all that special.

 

[frank12]

I'm not going to make this into a Sosua vs Cabarete argument, because like many people have already pointed out, both have their pros and cons. That's why i'm going to stick with attacking the things that Sosua needs to improve on, because as a dominican/american--who has been visiting Sosua since the 70's--and with lots of family members here who have vested interest on this island, i want to see Sosua improve just as badly as the next person. I'm not here to drive people away from sosua; i'm the biggest beaver worshiper on the north coast, so this is not my aim.

NO, my aim is to improve the place, because right now, as it stands, a blind person can see something is wrong, and moving bars around like a shell game or throwing a new coat of paint on concrete walls is not going to bring about any positive change. Period.

I will lay out my totally unqualified, subjective opinions shortly...i'm at work now, so its going to take a few minutes.

FRank

 

[frank12]

The things needed to bring about positive change and better tourism to Sosua--many have already been mentioned here, but are worth reiterating. Feel free to add to them or attack and tear them down if you feel they are not good suggestions:

1. Tear down all the souvenir shacks and Zone all areas surrounding the beach--requiring licenses for everyone.

2. Utilize and develop the open fields and spaces that separate highway 5 from the beach...right now it's just an open field with trees and left-over foundations of previous shacks and houses that once stood.

3. Zone all of Pedro Clisante and surrounding areas. require vendor licenses, restaurant licenses, liquor licenses, etc.

4. As was already mentioned--place a police station on the beach, put in lighting, zone the whole area, build boutique hotels and restaurants--the beach will become a promenade like Cabarete now enjoys where families can walk up and down the beach all night long because its well lit and full of restaurants.

5. Make the beach area night time friendly. Right now, its closed at night...that's just a waste of premium space and great real-estate. this makes no good economical sense whatsoever. there is no reason why Cabarete can do it and make it work and Sosua cannot. but again, this requires zoning the whole area and tearing it down and then selling premium real-estate to developers who have the money to invest and build it up from scratch.

6. Hold a architecture competition for the new zoned areas.

These are just a few subjective suggestions. I'm not here to abolish Sosua. I certainly am not some religious zealot trying to get rid of the night life, but i would like to see it vastly improved so that i could have a new place to hang out.

As it stands right now, i would not take my family there to hang out at night for anything. It's not by some freak accident that Cabarete--and again, this is not a comparison to make Sosua look bad--has families sitting on the beach every evening eating dinner. Just one quick look at Papi's, Pasta & Vino, LAX, and several other restaurants have dozens of families sitting on the beach every evening.

there is no reason why Sosua could not have the same thing on their beach. I for one would love new places to visit and spend my money. Diversity is a good thing. Free enterprise is a good thing. Having more choices and places to hang out is a good thing. In the end, people would drive up from Santo Domingo and Santiago and spend their money in Sosua and spread the wealth around. Right now, as it stands, Sosua is getting very little of the wealthy families that come up on the weekends and stay at their condos on the beach. Yes, they have condos on the beach in sosua, but at night, many of them drive to cabarete--you can see them at Gorditos, Yamazoto Sushi, Papi's, etc.

As far as the criticism regarding building new bars in Sosua as a sign of doing good...i'll take that as a joke. All the new bars on Pedro clisante manage to do is move the same people and same faces from one end of the street to the next. nothing more.

Frank

 

[frank12]

I for one always always like to hear about what's going on in Sosua (keep Posting). I have lived there with my family and enjoyed it. I have been to Caberete and really don't think that it is all that special.

I couldn't agree more. I like reading about it as well, i feel i owe Ken a big thank you for posting them. But as of yet, i have not read anything more than a new bar being remodeled, or a new nightclub opening. I don't see anything positive in that as far as bringing in tourism to help rejuvenate the place.

Frank

 

[Seamonkey]

We get many of the employees from Barrick frequenting the bars and restaurants in Sosua.... We get many families and groups driving from Cabarete to dine and enjoy the beach everyday. Every night there are families eating at several of the restaurants on Pedro Clisante....and yes they actually do bring their kids.

Frank, perhaps if you left Jose O'Shay's and your computer once in a while you would be able to see all of this. Once you fix the problems Cabarete has then you can start the recontruction of Sosua.

 

[Tamborista]

I couldn't agree more. I like reading about it as well, i feel i owe Ken a thank you for posting them. But as of yet, i have not read anything more than a new bar being remodeled, or a new nightclub opening. I don't see anything positive in that as far as bringing in tourism to help rejuvenate the place.

Frank

Frank, I happen to agree that Sosua's beachfront land is a terrible waste and certainly has huge potential, why not keep the 10 or so businesses that are legit and make proper use of the rest of property, aren't you connected?

Instead of repeating yourself over and over, find some Dominican investors with size cash and buy the land? What ever happened to "The Master Plan"? Who actually owns the land?

 

[frank12]

Frank...please take this with a grain of salt....but your comments are getting old. Seriously, if you have nothing new or nice to say just don't say it. Spare us your drama.

One more thing Seamonkey (I love the name by the way), in all due respect, brother, i think you need to read through my criticisms regarding Sosua. My family has vested interests in Sosua. not me, i have no money. But my family does do business in Sosua--always has, and my cousin, Ricardo Genao, had several businesses in Sosua in the 80's and early 90's when there were many more tourists and there was many more "All-inclusive's" in and around Sosua--including up in the hills surrounding sosua--but they're all empty shells now--broken foundations...gone forever.

My aim here is not to make Sosua look bad, but instead to criticise what desperately needs improving--and i think we can all agree it desperately needs improving...and i'm sorry, two new bars on pedro clisante is not the face lift that Sosua needs. Blue Infiniti and Hispaniola are fantastic improvements, and a welcome addition to Sosua. But two new bars on the strip is not an improvement. Sosua needs a lot more than that in order to generate enough interest to bring tourism back.

Don't shoot the messenger that brings bad news.

Seamonkey, you love sosua...that's great! No, really, i mean that. You love it and so more power to you. I love beaver, so i love it too. but i think you would agree, looking at the past of when Sosua once had lots of families, tourism, and All-inclusive's, it was a mecca for people of all different nationalities, demographics, and walks of life. That's not even remotely the case any more. and only a drastic, 360 degree--thinking out of the box--kind of rejuvenation is going to improve it.

love frank

 

[frank12]

Frank, I happen to agree that Sosua's beachfront land is a terrible waste and certainly has huge potential, why not keep the 10 or so businesses that are legit and make proper use of the rest of property, aren't you connected?

Instead of repeating yourself over and over, find some Dominican investors with size cash and buy the land? What ever happened to "The Master Plan"? Who actually owns the land?

What's the "Master Plan?" I've never heard of it. Who actually owns the land is the better question.

frank

 

[Ken]

To me, Frank is the perfect example of a legend in his own mind.

I know of no one else on this board, other than Pichardo, that is, who feels compelled to sing the same song over and over and over again.

I can think of no reason for this form of diarrhea other than a desperate need for self gratification.

 

[frank12]

To me, Frank is the perfect example of a legend in his own mind.

I know of no one else on this board, other than Pichardo, that is, who feels compelled to sing the same song over and over and over again.

I can think of no reason for this form of diarrhea other than a desperate need for self gratification.

Ok, Ken, you're right. I'm wrong. Pedro Clisante is a fantastic place. the beach front businesses are fabulous and a shining example of great business opportunities. Neither the beach nor the strip--Pedro Clisante--need any improvements.

Sosua is flourishing; the businesses are thriving, and any day now Conde Naste' magazine will be coming down to Sosua to document the vast improvements and the fabulous additions of the new bars stools inside Merengue and Ramba bars.

Again, i apologize. What am i thinking? Sosua is such a family friendly place who's reputation precedes it. No, i couldn't possibly be assessing the situation correctly when i think about it. Sosua is a thriving hub of positive energy and business opportunities and a shining example of great marketing strategies and taking advantage of such fabulous real-estate opportunities both on the beach and inside the horizontally gifted women inside Passions.

Frank