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Lazy, useless, poor, dishonest barrio people
John, you are doing a great thing. Believing in people seems to be a lost art these days, especially in such a poor and corrupt country. I, for one, would absolutely love to see you succeed on this venture. I think when you believe in people, and make them take ownership of their actions, and reward them with positive feedback and monetarial rewards, they are much less likely to take advantage of you or the situation. Best of luck, and bless you for giving some people chances that most others wouldn't.
I have a customer who says... I prefer to work with poor people than with rich people. Rich people is full of sheet and connections, they dont need to demonstrate anything about themselves and given the chance they will screw the deal with no remorse. Poor people business is litle business but it is more probable they will stand their word to meet their commitment because they want and need to do business again.
We have everything in generalizations land.
Jess
We have everything in generalizations land.
Jess
John, here are a few tip:
The people who work for you in any company you own are only as good as their manager or boss.
There are some people who are just plain bad and not working or employee material, but most people follow the leader.
If the leader is no good, has no patience, is not willing to give it 100%, forget it, its not going to work.
However, if you are willing to see these people succeed within your business, if you truly have a vested interest in their well being, then you will see them do better than otherwise.
Why?
Because people live up to expectations and if you let them know that you expect much from them and you believe they are capable of such, don't be surprised if they surprise you with exceptional output towards their work!
How can you do this? Let me share a few "secrets" of better management that gets results:
1. Make sure you are using each employee to the best of their abilities. This means, if a person is good in one thing, then focus their work in that particular thing.
2. Help the employees develop strong ties with each other and encourage them to identify with the company. When employees seem themselves as an integral part of the company and the company an integral part of them, they will more than likely give their best shot towards making this business succeed via good work ethics.
3. Create poster-sized graphs or charts in public spaces that track measures of success like profits, sales, and quality indicators. If you don't have time to keep these charts up to date, ask employees or rotate the responsibility. Also consider asking them what information they would like to have displayed so you can be sure they are getting the feedback they feel they need. The purpose of this is to make them feel important in the business and not just another employee.
4. Ask your employees to take what they learn in the workplace (ie. discipline, good work ethic, responsibility, aspiration to be better, etc) and use it at home. Then, consider creating a weekly reunion 30 minutes or so where they share stories about how some techinique or other worked out and helped them outside their job. This will help them develop a love for their job, trust in you as their boss, and encourage them to take their job seriously.
5. Don't tell employees what to do, but ask them. You often know what employees need to do, so it may feel natural to simply tell them. But to get them more engaged and build their self-sufficiency, it might be wiser to ask them instead. This technique is especially useful in any situation where you wish an employee would take more responsibility and initiative or gain skills instead of relying on yours. For example:
The next time someone comes to you for direction in something, ask them this:
- What do you think the options are?
- HOw do you think you might handle this?
- Have you encountered similar problems before?
- What are the root causes?
- Why did this happen?
- etc
6. Ask employees to design and put on social events and parties in the workplace.
7. Make sure employees feel their work is completed to their satisfaction so they can take pride in it.
8. Try to thank your employees, praise them, or otherwise let them know you are aware of their actions, effort, or accomplishment by giving them informal, quick written feedback.
9. Develop a philosophy for your business or a creed, put it in writing and make it a habit of you and your employees reading the creed aloud everyday prior to opening. This is good to get good work ethic ingrained in the employees and eventually, through repetition, the employees will begin to believe and act according to the philosophy of the company.
10. Give positive feedback before success, not after. Your leadership can make a bigger difference if you refocus your recognition efforts on work processes and improvement efforts rather than the end results. Remember, when we hang out at the finish line and clap when the employees stagger over it we aren't being leaders, we're being spectators.
There is much more to leadership and running a successful business, but I suppose you are aware of these things.
Remember, many of these people have low self esteem when it comes to their own possibilities of being great on their jobs, though they don't have low self esteem when it comes to party!
Treat them with respect, encourage them to be better than they think they actually are, show them that you care about them and their well being and that they should care also, give them the opportunity to fall in love with your company, your leadership, and their inputs. Make them realize that the success of the company is the responsibility of all.
Above everything, give these people something to feel good about as they wake up every morning to go to work.
You do that and they will get the good qualities they need to succeed in anything in life and you will get what you want from the business.
And last, but not least, remember:
Many of these people have problems beyond belief, in some cases you yourself can't imagine being in their shoes. You may see yourself as being part of a higher class, better educated, and more prone to being successful than they are, but remember, they have hearts that beats every day, they have the same life giving blood that runs through your veins, they have feelings, aspirations, dreams, hopes, opinions, they are living people.
Treat them well and they will give you the results you deserve, given the treatment they receive.
Treat them beyond well, and they will impress you on every turn.
People respond in kind, remember that.
Best wishes towards your business!
-NAL:classic:
The people who work for you in any company you own are only as good as their manager or boss.
There are some people who are just plain bad and not working or employee material, but most people follow the leader.
If the leader is no good, has no patience, is not willing to give it 100%, forget it, its not going to work.
However, if you are willing to see these people succeed within your business, if you truly have a vested interest in their well being, then you will see them do better than otherwise.
Why?
Because people live up to expectations and if you let them know that you expect much from them and you believe they are capable of such, don't be surprised if they surprise you with exceptional output towards their work!
How can you do this? Let me share a few "secrets" of better management that gets results:
1. Make sure you are using each employee to the best of their abilities. This means, if a person is good in one thing, then focus their work in that particular thing.
2. Help the employees develop strong ties with each other and encourage them to identify with the company. When employees seem themselves as an integral part of the company and the company an integral part of them, they will more than likely give their best shot towards making this business succeed via good work ethics.
3. Create poster-sized graphs or charts in public spaces that track measures of success like profits, sales, and quality indicators. If you don't have time to keep these charts up to date, ask employees or rotate the responsibility. Also consider asking them what information they would like to have displayed so you can be sure they are getting the feedback they feel they need. The purpose of this is to make them feel important in the business and not just another employee.
4. Ask your employees to take what they learn in the workplace (ie. discipline, good work ethic, responsibility, aspiration to be better, etc) and use it at home. Then, consider creating a weekly reunion 30 minutes or so where they share stories about how some techinique or other worked out and helped them outside their job. This will help them develop a love for their job, trust in you as their boss, and encourage them to take their job seriously.
5. Don't tell employees what to do, but ask them. You often know what employees need to do, so it may feel natural to simply tell them. But to get them more engaged and build their self-sufficiency, it might be wiser to ask them instead. This technique is especially useful in any situation where you wish an employee would take more responsibility and initiative or gain skills instead of relying on yours. For example:
The next time someone comes to you for direction in something, ask them this:
- What do you think the options are?
- HOw do you think you might handle this?
- Have you encountered similar problems before?
- What are the root causes?
- Why did this happen?
- etc
6. Ask employees to design and put on social events and parties in the workplace.
7. Make sure employees feel their work is completed to their satisfaction so they can take pride in it.
8. Try to thank your employees, praise them, or otherwise let them know you are aware of their actions, effort, or accomplishment by giving them informal, quick written feedback.
9. Develop a philosophy for your business or a creed, put it in writing and make it a habit of you and your employees reading the creed aloud everyday prior to opening. This is good to get good work ethic ingrained in the employees and eventually, through repetition, the employees will begin to believe and act according to the philosophy of the company.
10. Give positive feedback before success, not after. Your leadership can make a bigger difference if you refocus your recognition efforts on work processes and improvement efforts rather than the end results. Remember, when we hang out at the finish line and clap when the employees stagger over it we aren't being leaders, we're being spectators.
There is much more to leadership and running a successful business, but I suppose you are aware of these things.
Remember, many of these people have low self esteem when it comes to their own possibilities of being great on their jobs, though they don't have low self esteem when it comes to party!
Treat them with respect, encourage them to be better than they think they actually are, show them that you care about them and their well being and that they should care also, give them the opportunity to fall in love with your company, your leadership, and their inputs. Make them realize that the success of the company is the responsibility of all.
Above everything, give these people something to feel good about as they wake up every morning to go to work.
You do that and they will get the good qualities they need to succeed in anything in life and you will get what you want from the business.
And last, but not least, remember:
Many of these people have problems beyond belief, in some cases you yourself can't imagine being in their shoes. You may see yourself as being part of a higher class, better educated, and more prone to being successful than they are, but remember, they have hearts that beats every day, they have the same life giving blood that runs through your veins, they have feelings, aspirations, dreams, hopes, opinions, they are living people.
Treat them well and they will give you the results you deserve, given the treatment they receive.
Treat them beyond well, and they will impress you on every turn.
People respond in kind, remember that.
Best wishes towards your business!
-NAL:classic:
well I can't
thank you enough for the encouagement. I have been in the dumps most of the day because of several posters' comments which are the same old same old. Not that it really bothers me but it is so predicable. Thoughtful posts such as these give spirit to the passion I have for this business. I have been reluctant to share the scope and details of this start-up because I am a contrainrian by nature in business and don't find it necessary to try and explain my ideas, motive, etc.
A case in point is 6 years ago I bought (2) buildings in Bushwick Brooklyn, a very dicey nabe to say the least. Each building has 110 violations on them and all of my friends and associates said "you're crazy"/ Well today, a week does not go by where someone walks into my office and offers a million dollars for the buildings. They are cash cows that generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in income. I need to stop right here as this has nothing to do, I suppose with the issue at hand, but ...thanks for the kind words and support.
BTW--you dont know how true your statement about blood runing through the viens and beating heart is--one of the women is afflicted with sickle cell anemia and has a faulty valve in her heart. She is trying her best to keep up with this crazy guy with a NY pace and has already said 6 more months of this and "i'm dead-but I'm going to try because I have no other hope."
JOHN
JOHN
Nal0whs said:
thank you enough for the encouagement. I have been in the dumps most of the day because of several posters' comments which are the same old same old. Not that it really bothers me but it is so predicable. Thoughtful posts such as these give spirit to the passion I have for this business. I have been reluctant to share the scope and details of this start-up because I am a contrainrian by nature in business and don't find it necessary to try and explain my ideas, motive, etc.
A case in point is 6 years ago I bought (2) buildings in Bushwick Brooklyn, a very dicey nabe to say the least. Each building has 110 violations on them and all of my friends and associates said "you're crazy"/ Well today, a week does not go by where someone walks into my office and offers a million dollars for the buildings. They are cash cows that generate hundreds of thousands of dollars in income. I need to stop right here as this has nothing to do, I suppose with the issue at hand, but ...thanks for the kind words and support.
BTW--you dont know how true your statement about blood runing through the viens and beating heart is--one of the women is afflicted with sickle cell anemia and has a faulty valve in her heart. She is trying her best to keep up with this crazy guy with a NY pace and has already said 6 more months of this and "i'm dead-but I'm going to try because I have no other hope."
JOHN
JOHN
Read "MRMIKE & "Chris'" Posts a few hundred times.Then Print them out!
And post them at your desk! Later,when you have lost all your investment you can say "They Told Me So!"
You sound like the 10 year old who is riding down the street "No Hands": and yelling to everyone,"Look at me,look at me"! You may be doing just fine "so-far",but you will "Crash" as all those who decided on a "whim" to start a business just like one finds on every street corner in Santo Domingo! Why don't you start a "Colmado" while you are at it?? (No competition THERE???:classic: )
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And post them at your desk! Later,when you have lost all your investment you can say "They Told Me So!"
You sound like the 10 year old who is riding down the street "No Hands": and yelling to everyone,"Look at me,look at me"! You may be doing just fine "so-far",but you will "Crash" as all those who decided on a "whim" to start a business just like one finds on every street corner in Santo Domingo! Why don't you start a "Colmado" while you are at it?? (No competition THERE???:classic: )
But,"Good Luck!" Prove us wrong!!! CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc
I have pasted
the above referenced post along with AZB 's
and yours just like you suggested . Had only one problem Buddy and that is my backside isn't as big as yours and I ran out of room in the area that I pasted them.
But hey, thanks for your sage wisdom--Nothing better to do on this fine Saturday morning, or just hanging until the local ho house opens? When I crash and burn or open up my bodega you'll be the first to know. Dont hold your breath as I dont fail with anything I do..
especially with bodegas
JOHN
Criss Colon said:And post them at your desk! Later,when you have lost all your investment you can say "They Told Me So!"
You sound like the 10 year old who is riding down the street "No Hands": and yelling to everyone,"Look at me,look at me"! You may be doing just fine "so-far",but you will "Crash" as all those who decided on a "whim" to start a business just like one finds on every street corner in Santo Domingo! Why don't you start a "Colmado" while you are at it?? (No competition THERE???:classic: )
But,"Good Luck!" Prove us wrong!!! CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCc
the above referenced post along with AZB 's
and yours just like you suggested . Had only one problem Buddy and that is my backside isn't as big as yours and I ran out of room in the area that I pasted them.
But hey, thanks for your sage wisdom--Nothing better to do on this fine Saturday morning, or just hanging until the local ho house opens? When I crash and burn or open up my bodega you'll be the first to know. Dont hold your breath as I dont fail with anything I do..
especially with bodegas
JOHN
Well,You Seem To Have a GREAT Opinion Of Yourself,at least!
I don't go to "Ho Houses",they come to my "HOUSE"!:lick:
Those who come to the DR with the attitude that "I NEVER FAIL",SOON learn different! You will too!
Besides,you must be VERY YOUNG, and inexperienced.
Can't blame you for either of those!
I am "OLD" ,AND "Experienced"! Can't blame me for THAT either!
Difference is,I have failed LOTS of times(And NOT just maintaining an ERECTION!)
"It's NOT about weather you ever "FAIL" or not,it's about how you learn,grow,and go ahead,AFTER you "FAIL"!
"You know:"That which does not kill me,only serves to make me stronger!"
Better change your attitude,you still have time to change!
" So,you like my "Backside" eh?"
"Come kiss it next time you are in town!!:classic:
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I don't go to "Ho Houses",they come to my "HOUSE"!:lick:
Those who come to the DR with the attitude that "I NEVER FAIL",SOON learn different!
You will too!Besides,you must be VERY YOUNG, and inexperienced.
Can't blame you for either of those!
I am "OLD" ,AND "Experienced"! Can't blame me for THAT either!
Difference is,I have failed LOTS of times(And NOT just maintaining an ERECTION!)
"It's NOT about weather you ever "FAIL" or not,it's about how you learn,grow,and go ahead,AFTER you "FAIL"!
"You know:"That which does not kill me,only serves to make me stronger!"
Better change your attitude,you still have time to change!
"
So,you like my "Backside" eh?""Come kiss it next time you are in town!!:classic:
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As one who has spent thousands of dollars trying to establish a small business in the DR I wish you all of the luck in the world. The best advice that I can give you is listen to MrMike. Your plan is not exactly one right out of Harvard Business School. With out a niche product or service you will be buried existing competitors.
There are few if any secrets in the DR, within the first few days of operation everyone in the country will know that the business is fronted by a wealthy gringo and your troubles will really begin. The government guys in their suits and uniforms will start their visits. Shipments of products will be delayed, or will never arrive. Landlords will start raising rents regardless of contracts. Employees will start asserting their need for benefits (better check DR laws on employee rights) and wages.
Good luck man.
I still prefer the Escott and Rocky philosophy of doing business in the DR. ?Give me a million dollars now and I?ll give you $500, 000 when you are ready to leave.? Believe me this is the only way.
Chuckuindy
There are few if any secrets in the DR, within the first few days of operation everyone in the country will know that the business is fronted by a wealthy gringo and your troubles will really begin. The government guys in their suits and uniforms will start their visits. Shipments of products will be delayed, or will never arrive. Landlords will start raising rents regardless of contracts. Employees will start asserting their need for benefits (better check DR laws on employee rights) and wages.
Good luck man.
I still prefer the Escott and Rocky philosophy of doing business in the DR. ?Give me a million dollars now and I?ll give you $500, 000 when you are ready to leave.? Believe me this is the only way.
Chuckuindy
"Pearls Before Swine"! "Howmar"
Most posts of this nature are really not seeking any "Advice",just looking for "Yesmen" to support what they are doing!Or seeking a little attention.Just like the "Women/Men" who ask advice about weather or not they should marry their "Sankie/Hooker".They have made their decision,just looking for moral,or should I say,immoral",support!
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Most posts of this nature are really not seeking any "Advice",just looking for "Yesmen" to support what they are doing!Or seeking a little attention.Just like the "Women/Men" who ask advice about weather or not they should marry their "Sankie/Hooker".They have made their decision,just looking for moral,or should I say,immoral",support!
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John is no young kid, he maybe older than you CC. The only difference is that he made millions in NY and since he knows nothing about DR other than juan dolio, he will soon learn the norms of doing business in this country. I wish him success but since he is so rich, even if he losses all, its just pocket change to him.
What I don't understand is why would he waste time on pocket change businesses when he can concentrate more on his 50 apartments in NY and make real cash? many guys open up BS businesses in DR so they can find excuses to come here, alone (away from wives) and play a bit with the local chicas. I mean, a millionaire like john has no need to invest anything here, there is nothing here for people who play with big bucks back home; unless you open up a huge business and invest serious wealth you are only looking at play money at best with small businesses.
AZB
What I don't understand is why would he waste time on pocket change businesses when he can concentrate more on his 50 apartments in NY and make real cash? many guys open up BS businesses in DR so they can find excuses to come here, alone (away from wives) and play a bit with the local chicas. I mean, a millionaire like john has no need to invest anything here, there is nothing here for people who play with big bucks back home; unless you open up a huge business and invest serious wealth you are only looking at play money at best with small businesses.
AZB
John is a mature adult from what I've gathered with resources so let him do what he wants to do. If it fails, hey it's a big deduction on his income tax return as a business loss.
He's putting his money to work and not just handing it over in taxes. I'm sure it's helping others and if anything it's an experience.
This isn't some young kid with 2000 to his name trying to make a fortune in paradise.
He's putting his money to work and not just handing it over in taxes. I'm sure it's helping others and if anything it's an experience.
This isn't some young kid with 2000 to his name trying to make a fortune in paradise.
But Dead Money businesses make it harder for the rest. In my industry for example XYZ Company opens a competing operation and offers above market wages to lure them. In turn what happens:Anna Coniglio said:John is a mature adult from what I've gathered with resources so let him do what he wants to do. If it fails, hey it's a big deduction on his income tax return as a business loss.
He's putting his money to work and not just handing it over in taxes. I'm sure it's helping others and if anything it's an experience.
This isn't some young kid with 2000 to his name trying to make a fortune in paradise.
- Employees try every method to be fired and liquidated so they can go to new company.
- Our company has to recruit and train new work force to replace them
- Company XYZ is out of business in 6 months, leaving their workforce unemployed.
"everyone" Is A "millionaire" On The "net"!
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That, along with all your other ideas are totally wrong. Have a great day in your clean house (hope your kids are off to school) and when I see you I will decide about your backside.
Love,
JOHN
BTW - I wanted to congratulate you on your intelligent post you made this week-on my other tread about why you moved to the DR. For all the readers that perhaps didnt see it-check it out. Soooo mature and tastefully done.
One other thing that you will learn about me -be prepared--for every time you attack or post a piece of trash about me- to get it back in spades as I will tell you every time what I think of you. In private, in public, doesnt matter. Im not young, Im old, have no desire to listen to your crap Mr.
you must be "very young" God, I wish all the girls that I meet would say that!Criss Colon said:I don't go to "Ho Houses",they come to my "HOUSE"!:lick:
Those who come to the DR with the attitude that "I NEVER FAIL",SOON learn different!
Besides,you must be VERY YOUNG, and inexperienced.
Can't blame you for either of those!
I am "OLD" ,AND "Experienced"! Can't blame me for THAT either!
Difference is,I have failed LOTS of times(And NOT just maintaining an ERECTION!)
"It's NOT about weather you ever "FAIL" or not,it's about how you learn,grow,and go ahead,AFTER you "FAIL"!
"You know:"That which does not kill me,only serves to make me stronger!"
Better change your attitude,you still have time to change!
"
"Come kiss it next time you are in town!!:classic:
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That, along with all your other ideas are totally wrong. Have a great day in your clean house (hope your kids are off to school) and when I see you I will decide about your backside.
Love,
JOHN
BTW - I wanted to congratulate you on your intelligent post you made this week-on my other tread about why you moved to the DR. For all the readers that perhaps didnt see it-check it out. Soooo mature and tastefully done.
One other thing that you will learn about me -be prepared--for every time you attack or post a piece of trash about me- to get it back in spades as I will tell you every time what I think of you. In private, in public, doesnt matter. Im not young, Im old, have no desire to listen to your crap Mr.
The key line here is...
Isn't it obvious that what I showed as a plan doesnt make any sense without the endplay?
I think you naysayers should do your sleeping at home and be awake at the computer before you write trash
JOHN
"what I don't understand here". I had promised myself I wouldnt spend any more time on defense but this hit the nail on the head. No, its not for a GF or chicas. The long term plan for this business is exactly that "what I dont understand is why..." AND Im not giving it to youAZB said:
Isn't it obvious that what I showed as a plan doesnt make any sense without the endplay?
I think you naysayers should do your sleeping at home and be awake at the computer before you write trash
JOHN
Come to think of it, I am a little sleepy. I will take a short nap and then give you my verdict.johne said:
Anyway, seriously john, I wish you good luck. I am now beginning to see that your intentions are sincere in helping out the locals but I also think you are making a mistake. Good thing you are rich and don't care to lose a few thousand dollars here and there. I wish if I can become rich like you, without working as hard (ofcourse). I just want the money to be given to me. hehehehehe. Nevermind. have a great weekend and good luck.
AZB
All trash talk aside, John, I think that what some posters are trying to tell you is to proceed with caution. I know of no one, repeat, no one, that wants to throw money away. We all work hard for what we have and all of us want to make the right decisions.
Believe me people like Chris, AZB, CC, MrMike and others have paid their dues in the DR. They all know the pitfalls of doing business in a land of no or ever changing rules. Regardless of your net worth you will find that doing business in the DR is far different than anything you have done before.
I was a personal aide to an American billionaire who spent many years in the DR. He owned several estates and associated with the DR elite. In all of the years I worked for him not once did he consider doing business in the DR because of the risks involved. Please tell us what makes you so special that you can succeed where so many others have failed.
Again, I wish you the best, however proceed with caution.
Chuckuindy
Believe me people like Chris, AZB, CC, MrMike and others have paid their dues in the DR. They all know the pitfalls of doing business in a land of no or ever changing rules. Regardless of your net worth you will find that doing business in the DR is far different than anything you have done before.
I was a personal aide to an American billionaire who spent many years in the DR. He owned several estates and associated with the DR elite. In all of the years I worked for him not once did he consider doing business in the DR because of the risks involved. Please tell us what makes you so special that you can succeed where so many others have failed.
Again, I wish you the best, however proceed with caution.
Chuckuindy