Living Costs in the Dominican Republic

MikeFisher

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that sounds like a very reasonable thought of plan to me.
congratulations on the lil newborn and the upcoming wedding.
i have the 5MB plan now at one place and here at the Beach appartment where i type very most of my online stuff i have the 3MB claro plan only, both work very nice and fast enough for all my needs.
it depends on each area where you have a connection if the speed stays really up on ot's top or if it receives significant lower times. the most stable one of mine is the 3MB connection, she always provides 2.95-3.25/0.7-0.8, at all times day and night.

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Criss Colon

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IF ONLY, your plans for a "Visa" and a move to Miami were going to be as easy as posting them!
Many of us have different/MANY, "Horror Stories" about dealing with the US Consulate here!
I wish you all WELL!
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jeanchris

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I am a little bit surprised actually by the speed of Claro. I have 20mb/s and i usually get between 22 and 25!

Expensive but at least, its working well!


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MiamiDRGuy

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IF ONLY, your plans for a "Visa" and a move to Miami were going to be as easy as posting them!
Many of us have different/MANY, "Horror Stories" about dealing with the US Consulate here!
I wish you all WELL!
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I am aware of that and this is the reason I hired two attorney, one from Miami and one in DR so I can be on right track so the US Consulate cant mess with me ;)
 

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Just a heads up on Claro. Keep checking their website for deals. You may be paying more then you have to... I signed up 4 years ago and have adjusted my plan as they offer new deals. Claro will not inform you that they have better saving plans and just continue to bill you at the rate you received when you signed up. The website keeps fairly up-to-date so keep checking it for better costs and speeds.

For the Visa, I too am dealing with this as well. Ill keep you updated as mine progresses. So far I found a lawyer and the assistant offered to help me. The lawyer did not want to work on mine as she likes straight cut and dry cases. My girl already had children so that put a detail she did not wish to deal with, not sure why... There are about 5 forms to fill out as well as a statement of declaration on your relationship. A cost of $340.00 that is sent to the US and certified copies of your US birth certificate, get at lease 2 certified copies. Scan and save everything.

My ladies aunt just received a 10 year visitors visa in 5 days. It may be less crazy now but government is government.
 

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First of all. I quoted by testing it out buying a dinner at Carls Jr at Agora and it listed a meal cost $595RD so I decided to pay with my AmEx Bluebird and only paid $13.91USD. If you had Peso, you would be paying more becuase you easy run out of pesos, but with USD, you dont cuz it will convert from RD to USD itself.

My new condo is furniched, indeed. It's a brand new and top of line. That is why I choosen Bella Visita since its a perfect location for me and my family. The Claro will be a test for me to see how it goes for next 6 months.

I like A/C but I dont run it 24/7, I use fan and its cheaper and it does keep my condo cool. I pefer be wise with electric bill since Edenorte rip people off so that is why I dont wanan run AC 24/7.


For anyone who want to live in Santo Domingo, chose Bella Vista since it has many high rise condo/apts there and very clean and it has electric and water 24/7 :)
we both have same idea but going to naco found a nice apt there only 900 rent 2 bedroom just perfect. how does Edenorte rip rip people off ???? i guess be first guy in dr with 4k tv.
 

malko

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Campo shopping this morning.

Stopped a veg car in front of the house.
5lbs papas, 2lb carrots, bouquet of recaito, 1 repollo (?) Sort of cabbage. 200 pesos.

Down to nearest town.
5 whole, cleaned chicken. 770 pesos.

10 lb ace ( washing powder ) 250 pesos.
12 pack coca cola ( 500ml bottles ). 215 pesos.
1 big pack Rajito ( makes white clothes whiter....) 65 pesos.
1 galon acaite maciero 350 pesos. (450 pesos at national santiafo btw....)
1 box suppita Maggi 200 pesos
2lb cafe sto domingo 320 pesos.
12 box matches 26 pesos.
10lb salami ( for my dogs) 400 pesos.
A broom 115 pesos.
10 pack marlboro 1340 pesos.
2 lb queso a freir 220 pesos.
1 lb, mas o menos de queso de oro ( like fresh mozzarella mmmmmm ) 180 pesos.

Vet.
40 lb bag of alican dog food. 1300 pesos ( 1600 a la sirena santiago....)
10 lb corn, whole for chicken 80 pesos.
10 lb ali ente for chicks 120 pesos.

Bills.
Edenorte juin . 2500 pesos.
Water 2 mo ths 300 pesos.
Cable tv 1 month 500 pesos.

Oh and both shops ( vet and colmado) they offered us coffee that we drank and bread and cheese, that we refused.

Question. How can these places in the campo, be cheaper than la sirena and national ?? Beats me.......
 

AlterEgo

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Question. How can these places in the campo, be cheaper than la sirena and national ?? Beats me.......

Less overhead [high rent, employees, utilities]. No credit card fees, etc.. I find the same thing where we live, the colmado has prices cheaper than La Sirena [our closest big supermarket]. It's the variety that's usually lacking.
 

malko

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True but also much less volume of sales.........
When we go to our monthly trip to santiago, we go to sirena and/or national, mainly for "treats".
"Como los ricos", says my wife.......hhehehe
 

william webster

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they get it straight from the trees - the colmados..... not a sophisticated delivery sysytem to fatten up the costs

some kid gets them mangos, bananas, papaya, etc that he 'purloined' and can sell cheaply
I bet they pay less than anybody for their product.......thats where 'small is good'.... the boys cant supply a large chain

what my people bring to my kitchen is better, fresher than anything I can find 'commercially'
and if it wasn't free --- they wouldn't be giving it to me
 

mountainannie

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We've all been around it a few times, and the baseline amount for two adults to live in the DR at a level reasonably close to middle class life in Middle America is somewhere around 2-2.5k/month. That assumes minimal driving, moderate spending habits, no issues with alcohol/drugs/looking for love in all the wrong places, and eating locally produced food.

That number can go up very substantially and quickly if you are living in Santo Domingo or one of the nicer touristy areas, have school age children, and/or have an affinity for luxury.

Keep in mind, that number relates to folks who have been in the country for a few years, settled in, and learned the "real" costs of everything. The "gringo tax" assessed against newbies who simply don't understand the system is quite real, and rather steep.

Personally, my advice would be to stay for a shorter term period - say, two to six months - to get a sense of the actual lifestyle and attendant costs. If you are an all or nothing kind of person and insist on selling everything and throwing caution to the wind in a rush to move out here (which is a REALLY BAD idea, btw), then the second best thing would be to figure out a reasonable budget, and then double it.

I wanted to bring the thread back to the main theme which is cost of living. And for most of us it is cost of living as compared to somewhere, like the States or Europe. For me, the main issue is the cost of housing.

Say that food is the same as the States. Say internet and phone are as well. (I think that they are cheaper but it has been a long time), ditto electric.

Health insurance is a lot less but some will counter that health service is as well, I do not think so but the argument can be made. Some meds are cheaper.. OTC stuff like vitamins and big bottles of ibuprophen.. a lot more. Clothing? you buy on line unless you really like polyester.

But RENT? Rent is a bargin here . Since housing is usually a quarter to a third of one's budget, that is a big piece of the pie.

And ownership, well, I do not own. (see above) but ownership here is not the same as in the States where you are essentially just "renting" from the State.. your condo fees are going to be more in the $300 range there than the $50 range here.

So when we say a "middle class lifestlye" that covers a lot of ground.

For those of us who are smack in the middle of the middle or below it, I think that one can have a much higher standard of living here than in the States.

For the rent I pay here, I think I would only get a studio down in Crack Alley in Florida. (or a doublewide). To find a walkable down town location... well, in Miami, I would pay in week more than I pay in a month here Home for Rent - 7300 Ocean Ter Apt 112, Miami Beach, FL 33141 - realtor.com?

So with $3 to $4 k a month here, one is Living Large. Whereas back in the US, at least, one is just getting by.

But, one is NOT running with the wealthy here, certainly not in Santo Domingo. Not with the wealthy Dominicans whose wealth is astonishing or really even with a lot of the ex pats who are here "on assignment" with governments or NGOs or multinationals and have their lodgings, cars, utilities, and school bills paid for.

There are also luxuries here, such as maids, which I could NEVER afford in the States, and who have made my life infinitely more luxurious.

I don't own a car which is a luxury in and of itself. I take taxis. Or publicos. Or conchos in the campo. And buses. Or sometimes rent for a day or two. (I did the math once and figured I could take two cabs a day and rent a car every weekend and still come out ahead.. but I can walk to everything I need)

It is the folks who have under $2k a month who have to really figure out if they can make it here or if they want to because there is no safetly net or back up if something happens. With that amount, you are limited to looking for apartments under $500 which are here but get harder and harder to find. Your health insurance can go up to $200 a month, depending. Then the utilities can kick in at $200 combined. (just arguing here).

That leaves you $1100 just for food, right?

So it still looks like you have plenty.

But the apartment probably has a 5% increase in the lease.

So put that away right way. Plus another 10% just for safety. So there is another $225.

Down to $875.

Ok you are not a big boozer, but you like to go out a bit, like to eat steak every once in a while. So say $600 for food and entertainment?


Then you need to go home, what, once a year? once every two years? You have $3300 a year left to go and see your mother, your kids, your grandkids, whatever.

You made it.

*you hope that you are not put on any expensive meds but you have some safety with the savings.. your insurance covers some meds.

* you also hope that the landlord will not REALLY increase the rent but you are prepared to move if need be.

I am addressing this really to people who are thinking of retiring here or have an income from assets or a secure income flow from something on line. (there are a few rare birds who have started succesful ventures here but do not count on it).

We used to say it was 1.5k for a single person.. But I have a friend who has about that I think that I would have to say now that the figure is really more like 2k a month for a single person living in SD with a solid, really, Upper middle class lifestyle.

And I would add 500 to 1k per person per month for anyone living with.. for insurance, food and eating out. I found that I spent much more on eating out when my sister was here.. because I had someone to eat out with!

But that amount of money will NOT buy that lifestyle in the USA now.
 

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Out of curiosity; what social/economic class would you guys consider a person who makes around 4500 to 5000 dollars a month in DR, who's single with no kids and having a mortgage on a apartment being his only major expense? Sorry if this question is out of place, but I did not fee like creating a new thread for only one question.
 

william webster

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rico..... not off the chart, but solidly good and rico.

shouldn't have any problems....

just me saying........


UNLESS the mortgage is $5000/month....
then you're a Dominican
 
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Out of curiosity; what social/economic class would you guys consider a person who makes around 4500 to 5000 dollars a month in DR, who's single with no kids and having a mortgage on a apartment being his only major expense? Sorry if this question is out of place, but I did not fee like creating a new thread for only one question.

If you stick to a budget and keep everything within moderation (alcohol and women), you should be able to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle.
 

malko

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Out of curiosity; what social/economic class would you guys consider a person who makes around 4500 to 5000 dollars a month in DR, who's single with no kids and having a mortgage on a apartment being his only major expense? Sorry if this question is out of place, but I did not fee like creating a new thread for only one question.

Really, really, really well off........
 

CristoRey

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Out of curiosity; what social/economic class would you guys consider a person who makes around 4500 to 5000 dollars a month in DR, who's single with no kids and having a mortgage on a apartment being his only major expense? Sorry if this question is out of place, but I did not fee like creating a new thread for only one question.

Elite.
 

Gurabo444

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Thanks for all the reply guys.

rico..... not off the chart, but solidly good and rico.

shouldn't have any problems....

just me saying........


UNLESS the mortgage is $5000/month....
then you're a Dominican

That's what most Dominican say "rico", but I've always thought of someone with such an income as simply solid Middle class. Imao, the mortgage is no where near 5000.

If you stick to a budget and keep everything within moderation (alcohol and women), you should be able to enjoy a comfortable lifestyle.

Agreed. Although, with all the temptations that surrounds us, that's way easier said than done.


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PICHARDO

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Out of curiosity; what social/economic class would you guys consider a person who makes around 4500 to 5000 dollars a month in DR, who's single with no kids and having a mortgage on a apartment being his only major expense? Sorry if this question is out of place, but I did not fee like creating a new thread for only one question.



By 2011 figures:


Upper Middle Class 13%, Upper class 5%, Rich 2% = 20%

Middle 26%, Lower Middle 13%, Low Income 30.6%, Poor 10.4% = 80%

0. Poverty: USD$316 or less to live like 10.4% of these households
1. Low income: USD$527 to 922 to live like 30.6% of these households
2. Low middle class: USD$922 to 1,186 to live like 13% of these households
3. Middle class: USD$1,186 to 4,216 to live like 26% of these households
4. Upper middle class: USD$ 4,216 to 6,588 to live like 13% of these households
5. Upper class: USD$6,588 to 26,351 to live like 5% of these households
6. Rich/wealthy: USD$26,351 + to live like 2% of these households




*** Updates have been made to this breakdown for 2013-14 (available for purchase on demand)