Massacre in Haiti

[AlterEgo]

Just when you thought you’d heard the worst

Las bandas no dan tregua a la población haitiana; masacraron a 184 ancianos

La masacre se produjo en la zona de Cité Soleil, en la capitalEl Gobierno asegura que aniquilará a los criminales

www.diariolibre.com

 

[cavok]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/12/09/americas/haiti-gang-massacre-voodoo-intl-latam/index.html

 

[CristoRey]

Doesn't surprise me at all.
Hopefully this administartion can keep the gangs (and their superstitions) out of the DR.

 

[drstock]

Doesn't surprise me at all.
Hopefully this administartion can keep the gangs (and their superstitions) out of the DR.

I was in a line at a public hospital with my Dominican friend who is black. Another woman in the line asked my friend if she knew anyone who could put a spell on her ex-boyfriend. It seems that to some Dominicans, anyone who is black either practices voodoo or knows somebody who does!

 

[NanSanPedro]

When I lived in okap, there was a voodoo pool fairly close to where I lived. I went with my church there to try and talk with them about voodoo and Christianity and the differences. Of course I, being white, had no success, but the practioners were receptive to the churches message when given by Haitians.

I did hear a story once about a witch doctor who believed in Christianity but would not give up his witch doctoring because that's how he fed his family. This was second hand so I don't know if true or not.

Bottom line is that voodoo has a handle on many Haitians. The story is tragic nonetheless.

 

[Ecoman1949]

Doesn't surprise me at all.
Hopefully this administartion can keep the gangs (and their superstitions) out of the DR.

CR. I referenced this in my post on the Kenyans thread today. The massacre was announced by some news outlets a few days ago. Just when you think the violence and depravity in Haiti can’t go any lower, they find a way to achieve it at great human cost. The need to secure the DR border increases every day as the intervention unravels. After January 20th, the need will be much greater.

 

[drpesson]

When I lived in okap, there was a voodoo pool fairly close to where I lived. I went with my church there to try and talk with them about voodoo and Christianity and the differences. Of course I, being white, had no success, but the practioners were receptive to the churches message when given by Haitians.

I did hear a story once about a witch doctor who believed in Christianity but would not give up his witch doctoring because that's how he fed his family. This was second hand so I don't know if true or not.

Bottom line is that voodoo has a handle on many Haitians. The story is tragic nonetheless.

it is also an important part of dominican culture. thats why they always use second names so someone doesnt put a curse on them.

 

[Big]

it is also an important part of dominican culture. thats why they always use second names so someone doesnt put a curse on them.

lol. If anyone lives their life like this, there is no helping them. On that note, I do not worry about a curse, I wear an amulet and have chicken bones and a black magic candle at my front door.

 

[Ecoman1949]

I was in a line at a public hospital with my Dominican friend who is black. Another woman in the line asked my friend if she knew anyone who could put a spell on her ex-boyfriend. It seems that to some Dominicans, anyone who is black either practices voodoo or knows somebody who does!

Watched an old Bogart movie, To Have And Have Not, a few days ago. It’s based on the island of Martinique. They featured a voodoo scene. Hollywood spread their version of voodoo around the world and gave it a dangerous mystique. Other cultures have their versions of voodoo. In Italy, you don’t mess with certain members of the clergy because they can curse you with the evil eye. Same for the Gypsy culture. They have more curses than any culture should. lol! Aboriginal cultures in North and South America have had their forms of voodoo to divine their future, read the omens, or curse their enemies.

People in desperate circumstances always gravitate towards some form of a messiah to free themselves from their poverty or oppression. No surprise voodoo is still practiced and believed in by Haitians. I’m not a big believer but I do use my chicken bones and dice to divine my weekly lotto numbers. Hasn’t worked yet. Missed a big one last week. $80 million tax free. 😢

 

[NALs]

I was in a line at a public hospital with my Dominican friend who is black. Another woman in the line asked my friend if she knew anyone who could put a spell on her ex-boyfriend. It seems that to some Dominicans, anyone who is black either practices voodoo or knows somebody who does!

That’s not it. They ask anyone. You just happened to be next to a Dominican above all else.

 

[NALs]

I did hear a story once about a witch doctor who believed in Christianity but would not give up his witch doctoring because that's how he fed his family. This was second hand so I don't know if true or not.

Ex-President Balaguer, who was very religious and is the main reason why their is a religious touch to many of the things that he made (ie. Plaza de la Bandera which was built by him looks like a giant Latin cross from the air), was known for getting advice from some brujo.

It’s also well known in the DR that consulting to a brujo in the DR can be hit or miss since many claim to be one when they aren’t. However, if you want the serious stuff, you visit a brujo in Haiti. Nowadays there are so many Haitians in the DR, going to Haiti may not be necessary.

 

[AlterEgo]

Ex-President Balaguer, who was very religious and is the main reason why their is a religious touch to many of the things that he made (ie. Plaza de la Bandera which was built by him looks like a giant Latin cross from the air), was known for getting advice from some brujo.

It’s also well known in the DR that consulting to a brujo in the DR can be hit or miss since many claim to be one when they aren’t. However, if you want the serious stuff, you visit a brujo in Haiti. Nowadays there are so many Haitians in the DR, going to Haiti may not be necessary.

I always thought there was a difference between a brujo/bruja and voodoo. All the “botanicos” in Spanish neighborhoods in the USA don’t seem to be voodoo based. More Santeria? I realize they’re similar but no dolls with pins.

 

[drstock]

That’s not it. They ask anyone. You just happened to be next to a Dominican above all else.

Well, my friend thought it was to do with her colour and I have never heard of anyone else being asked such a question. For sure nobody has asked me!

 

[NALs]

I always thought there was a difference between a brujo/bruja and voodoo. All the “botanicos” in Spanish neighborhoods in the USA don’t seem to be voodoo based. More Santeria? I realize they’re similar but no dolls with pins.

There is a difference. Hence the going to Haiti for the serious stuff (though now Haiti is coming to everybody in the DR.)

 

[NALs]

Well, my friend thought it was to do with her colour and I have never heard of anyone else being asked such a question.

I have.

For sure nobody has asked me!

You probably have the gringo look.

 

[JD Jones]

I always thought there was a difference between a brujo/bruja and voodoo. All the “botanicos” in Spanish neighborhoods in the USA don’t seem to be voodoo based. More Santeria? I realize they’re similar but no dolls with pins.

Yep. Two different worlds.