No worries Shalena. I will not let this thread turn into a bickering match.
Heed warnings all!!!!!!!!
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No worries Shalena. I will not let this thread turn into a bickering match.
Heed warnings all!!!!!!!!
There is nothing disingenuous in my post but positive advice in order that this very good medical procedure is accepted here in the DR. My only concern is helping this procedure be accepted as it is obviously beneficial to Dominican children. I'm sorry if people think so poorly of me that they think I would be taking such a serious matter so lightly. I will leave this thread at the request of the op.
I am sure that this is very fustrating for you but continue to "bang on that door" and be persistent. What you are bringing to light is very important and is needed. My sister in-law is a OBGYN outside of SFM and she has encountered the same stubborn attitude you are seeing. She did a internship in Cleveland a few years ago and when she came back with some ideas she was met with some resistance but she kept at it. Keep doing what your doing and someone will eventually listen. Unfortunately some here are slow to change and new ideas but again be persistent
Thank you so much, that gives me alot of hope. I would like to meet your sister-in-law anytime!
SHALENA
Shalena
First in spite of our differences I respect what you are doing and I always believe in promoting good no matter who is the author.
Second, there is no sarcasm in my post at all. The comment about "vaina" is something I had to learn the hard way in professional situations. If you have already learned this then all the better.
I think what you are doing for Dominican children is a good thing so hence I risked getting in trouble to give you advice based on my experiences.
it is already turning into cat fight. guys, give each other credit and take posts positively, ok?
shalena, as they say: rome was built in a day. you have to give it time. idea about maternal and child care is still fairly new, even as little as hundred years ago women and newborns were dying in the first world due to infections and other issues. it took long time and work of many individuals and entities to change that.
everywhere you will see that people are resistant to changes. it needs lots of education, patience and - mostly - time.
i think maybe you could bite this problem from other direction? maybe instead of talking about benefits of kangaroo care to mother and child outline its benefits to doctors and nursing staff? less work for them since mum will be in charge of the baby? more profit for the hospital since the cost of care will be lower? more prestige to the doctor since his patients are doing better?
i am not a specialist here, i am sure you can word this idea and sell it.
shalena, as they say: rome was built in a day. you have to give it time. idea about maternal and child care is still fairly new, even as little as hundred years ago women and newborns were dying in the first world due to infections and other issues. it took long time and work of many individuals and entities to change that.
everywhere you will see that people are resistant to changes. it needs lots of education, patience and - mostly - time.
i think maybe you could bite this problem from other direction? maybe instead of talking about benefits of kangaroo care to mother and child outline its benefits to doctors and nursing staff? less work for them since mum will be in charge of the baby? more profit for the hospital since the cost of care will be lower? more prestige to the doctor since his patients are doing better?
i am not a specialist here, i am sure you can word this idea and sell it.
I doubt any Dominican in DR1 would have an issue with what you've posted. You are neither being out of line nor disrespectful to the entire Dominican population.
Is the Hospital administrator or director aware of what you are trying to accomplish?
I don't know how generous your budget is, but this is the man or woman you have to impress. The staff will then follow his/her lead.
Have you shown them videos of this program been executed successfully abroad? I think this would be more effective than have them read stats on a brochure Pamphlet.
There is probably no escaping it, you might have reach and bribe someone; politely of course. I don't mean money. Maybe dinner for two (Dr and spouse) and or a couple tickets to a show.
It is sad you have to result to bribery when this is something they should embrace naturally for the sake of the kids.
It is even sadder that a lot of Drs. in the field don't have their hearts in the right places; hence the bribery!
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Is the Hospital administrator or director aware of what you are trying to accomplish?
I don't know how generous your budget is, but this is the man or woman you have to impress. The staff will then follow his/her lead.
Have you shown them videos of this program been executed successfully abroad? I think this would be more effective than have them read stats on a brochure Pamphlet.
There is probably no escaping it, you might have reach and bribe someone; politely of course. I don't mean money. Maybe dinner for two (Dr and spouse) and or a couple tickets to a show.
It is sad you have to result to bribery when this is something they should embrace naturally for the sake of the kids.
It is even sadder that a lot of Drs. in the field don't have their hearts in the right places; hence the bribery!
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I never thought about the Hospital administrator, I will try that direction.
I would need to take them out to show them a video, they are waaaaay to busy in the hosptal, hence the written information.
The OB Director never gives me any opposition, says "Si, si, si" alot like I'm wasting his time. The they do what I ask but its the follow through that sucks, and the fact that they wait until I'm back in the States to tell the girls no.
I was not going to move to Santiago until I finished my Midwifery schooling but moved back early becasue I saw that nothing was going to get done if I wasn't actively there. But I have to work to support my family and my studies so still I am only there 2 weeks out of every month and not consecutively. Melanie (LaTeacher was doing alot while I was in the States but of course she has her job and family too).
Yeah about the bribery....I already know. They didn't listen to me at first until I started bringing stuff.
What is the best restaurant in Santiago then? Maybe I will get a gift card for dinner for two, take it to the Hospital Director's office, and ask him for an appointment to speak with him. After speaking with him, maybe I can get the go ahead for some of the projects and if I do....tickets to a show
thanking him for his time and his supportI will try that NAS, thanks.
SHALENA
The work that is being done for maternal health here is remarkable, however, most people don't even know what is going on! I speak to people frequently and hey have no idea of the services being offered around. Perhaps if we can educate the women to stand up for themselves, they can cause the ruckus for the cause. The more women who are educated before going into labor, the better chances they will demand these services when they need them.
SKing is doing great work - it's not easy to pack up your family and move to another country because of something you believe in! keep up the good work, shalena. (ps. call me)
SKing is doing great work - it's not easy to pack up your family and move to another country because of something you believe in! keep up the good work, shalena. (ps. call me)
another idea is to involve a celebrity. which in dominican terms means someone who is featured in "ritmo social" basically a rich influential woman who is going to brag about your project to the media.
i am not sure who could help here and help you reach the rich. but having someone of high social status back you up is going to move your case forward faster than any dinner or show.
maybe it is worth to flip the pages of domincan weekly magazines that come with listin diario and hoy. check who is getting married and who is getting pregnant. connect with those women via your project's facebook profile. present your ideas as a new fad, a way to shine as a mother. granted, rich women's kids are brought up by nannies but those women themselves never miss the opportunity to talk about how motherhood changed them and how kids are the light of their lives. play with that.
basically a rich influential woman who is going to brag about your project to the media.i am not sure who could help here and help you reach the rich. but having someone of high social status back you up is going to move your case forward faster than any dinner or show.
maybe it is worth to flip the pages of domincan weekly magazines that come with listin diario and hoy. check who is getting married and who is getting pregnant. connect with those women via your project's facebook profile. present your ideas as a new fad, a way to shine as a mother. granted, rich women's kids are brought up by nannies but those women themselves never miss the opportunity to talk about how motherhood changed them and how kids are the light of their lives. play with that.
Yes, we have had some. The money goes so quickly we could never raise enough. Cabral at times has up to 900 births per month, sometimes 20-30 per day. Just trying to provide even the smallest of things (like sheets) is a task. Everything goes so quickly. The Haitian women usually arrive with nothing and need extra. One of the ladies wanting to join has some ideas, we are just waiting till I talk to Melanie to gather a time to discuss things.
Of course, if you would like o make us your Christmas charity this year we would gladly appreciate it!
SHALENA
SHALENA
listen, how about you start off in private hospitals rather than public? because women pay and the financial situation of such institutions is different the staff can have more time on their hands, especially doctors. i know you aim to help those who really need it but one has to start small and smart. nearly all doctors from private clinics clock time in public hospitals too. if they learn some habits at their paid jobs they make take it further.
your second goal could be students - future doctors and medical staff. maybe HB could hook you up with some people in PUCMM so you could give - free - a course or a presentation to medical students?
and do try to worm your way to margarita. she likes to play the mother of the nation. with her support anything is possible. maybe you could join PLD? just joking... but in any case, there must be some people here who know big fish in PLD.
your second goal could be students - future doctors and medical staff. maybe HB could hook you up with some people in PUCMM so you could give - free - a course or a presentation to medical students?
and do try to worm your way to margarita. she likes to play the mother of the nation. with her support anything is possible. maybe you could join PLD? just joking... but in any case, there must be some people here who know big fish in PLD.