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Narco state
There is one way to solve the problem of drugs. If we poison all the drugs that they have and release them back into the system and any shipments they stop only poison them and let them go. When the buying stops the problem stops also. If you don't have customers you can't sell drugs. It is no good to legalize we already have a drug problem with tobacco and alcohol we don't need the list to get any bigger.
I can understand your frustration BUT if one of your kids or family members were hooked, you would think twice about your comment.
Remember, drug abuse is a disease.
And then there are very bad alternate ideas...
There is nothing you said that I can agree with.
There is nothing you said that I can agree with.
I personally think we have something severely wrong with our society that openly supports illegal drug use. There is so much pressure from the music industry on our youths even in grade school to use drugs that it's obvious why so many feel like they needed to do it to be cool.
In fact almost all of my friends in hs smoked weed and many did coke. I lost count of how many times I was offered it. I didn't do it because I went to a Catholic grade school, was afraid of what my dad would do and never got invited to parties anyway(jeje).
My honest solution would be to make it illegal to promote drugs in movies and in music and make examples of those who do. It needs to be ostracized every much as pedophilia in my opinion and you certainly don't see that in the popular media or if you do there is a lot of outrage.
I'm sure some will say freedom of speech is more important but then again one can't go out and spread child pornography so there are obviously times where censorship is the correct thing to do.
In fact almost all of my friends in hs smoked weed and many did coke. I lost count of how many times I was offered it. I didn't do it because I went to a Catholic grade school, was afraid of what my dad would do and never got invited to parties anyway(jeje).
My honest solution would be to make it illegal to promote drugs in movies and in music and make examples of those who do. It needs to be ostracized every much as pedophilia in my opinion and you certainly don't see that in the popular media or if you do there is a lot of outrage.
I'm sure some will say freedom of speech is more important but then again one can't go out and spread child pornography so there are obviously times where censorship is the correct thing to do.
Comparing child pornography and drugs are non-sequitors.
Child porn requires a victim unable to make their own decisions and understand the consequences.
Drugs have no such victims. While I am 100% all for legalization, I also understand the wisdom in requiring someone to be at the age of majority to make that decision.
The primary harm drugs cause society are crimes committed to obtain them and actions that harm other people while under their influence (like alcohol.) And the ONLY way to stop the crimes associated with drugs is to remove much of the profit from them that drive the supply underground. All intervention does is reduce the supply, making them even MORE expensive, insuring the crime cycle to continue unabated.
Secondarily, I'd advocate making them as cheap and pure as possible, encouraging overuse, in the hopes that users, frankly, die.
But with lagalization comes responsibility. If you harm another's person, property or life because of YOUR drug use, you should make restitution and/or rot in jail.
My point wasn't to say drug use is as serious as child pornography, only that drug use should be censored in the media like child pornography.
Why advocate media censorship?
That does more harm than good and empowers censors.
A parent should be in charge of what their spawn are exposed to at home, not some agenda-driven bureaucrat...
When drugs are no longer pleasurable to consume they will go away. But mankind has ALWAYS sought ways to alter perception. And I suspect will continue to do so.
The media censorship would be no more than what is done now with regards to child pornography. Still that is censorship and is accepted by a free society as necessary.
Child porn and drug use are very different things and cannot be compared.
You still lack in the understanding of a fundamental issue. Prohibition does not work.
Censorship is not going to do the job, nor is it a good idea. I do understand that you are the kind of
person who does not like people to be able to make up their own minds about things. Instead they should act like sheep led in the way you see fit. I believe they should be able to make their own choices and see the benefits or pay the consequences based upon their actions.
"The media" , by the way, has changed to being much more than TV, music and the movies.
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I've heard of youtube and facebook too buddy.
You say I can't grasp a fundamental concept and I can say the same thing about you. I see what my kids are watching on tv and listening to on the radio and know they are very influenced by what they see just as I was as a teen and pre-teen.
Our youth are being enticed by the media. There is a reason advertising is a trillion dollar business and it is because it brings a return on an investment.
I'm also certain my proposition would never be accepted based on the reasons I stated before not to mention that people will get up in arms about censorship - even though child pornography is censored. Still it would be a cheaper plan and would no doubt actually work. But alas, drugs will never go away.
Still when you've got so many youths in hs and college and from stable family homes with good grades and a bright future and proud to use weed and crack on the weekends that is a sign of a serious problem in society. Mommy and Daddy can only control so much, and it is getting harder and harder to counterbalance all the crap out there - anymore.
Not really......lots of jobs would be lost and I'm sure we would see a collapse in apartment construction, ridiculous restaurants and mall openings in many countries
Somehow people never ask themselves if drug trafficking and money laundering is capable of creating much development, why did Haiti never saw an economic boom during the decades it was, for all practical purposes, narco state?
Where are the malls? The apartment buildings? Where's the boom?
Ah yes, nowhere to be seen. Not that money laundering was tiny in Haiti, it's just that it doesn't really propels development on a large scale as does proper macroeconomic policies.
And that's the difference with the DR. Some people just ignore that fact in attempts of discrediting the progress the DR has been accomplishing in the last few decades.
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As for what should the DR government do regarding drug trafficking, despite the very visible accomplishments in the last few years (hardly any narco planes are entering Dominican airspace anymore, thanks to the Tucanos!, all the big fishes have been falling due to government pursuit after them - Quirino only lasted 3 years in the business before being caught, Figueroa Agosto also lasted a very small amount of time in 'the business'; to mention two examples of many); I'm beginning to incline myself more towards the Peruvian model.
In a nutshell, this really is an American problem. Let them deal with it.
Peru is a major producer of cocaine, but since the government there hardly meddles in such affairs, they're not suffering the bloodbath Mexico is.
The Dominican resources being committed to control this problem that is not even of our creation could be better spent on other more important things.
The topic seems to be "choice" versus "control" for you. I contend that censorship in the media would be just another aspect of prohibition and it will not help. It just makes the "forbidden fruit" sweeter. Advocate education and treatment as opposed to censorhip, and I will agree.