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TOOBER_SDQ

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As it is in England:
Litter facts

The amount of litter dropped yearly in the UK has increased by 500% since the 1960s.
Nearly half the population (48%) admit to dropping litter.
It is illegal to drop litter and you can be fined up to ?80 on the spot if you're caught littering.
Nearly 44,000 people were issued with fixed penalty notices last year for littering.
Litter costs the taxpayer nearly ?550m a year to clean-up.
MPs get more letters complaining about litter and dog fouling than anything else.
The most common litter today is smoking related, closely followed by fast food litter.
The rat population has boomed to 60 million due to the huge amounts of litter around. This means there are now almost as many rats as people in the UK.
Over 373,000 pieces of litter were found on beaches in the UK in 2006 - equivalent to 1,989 items per kilometre - the Marine Conservation Society reports a 90% increase in beach litter since 2004.

??.seems to coincide with the immigration explosion??..:ermm:
 

bob saunders

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…….seems to coincide with the immigration explosion……..:ermm:

My thoughts also, but perhaps it's also to do with our throw-away society. They opened a Tim Hortons close to where I live as well as a fish & chips/burger takeout place. Both are about a block away from a large high school (1000+ students) I said to myself at that time " now we'll have garbage all over the place " Sure enough there is coffee cups, and Styrofoam plate...etc everywhere.
 
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Do you say this because you saw me at super colmado randy french kissing your maid? Or because you know me? or because...you're just making stuff up?

Ironically, the 'better class' of Dominicans, are actually BIGGER pricks than the peasants.

ie. All the rich donias in the supermarket near my area are all bitches to their maids. All the rich guys who are professionals are assholes to their wives and have 3 or 4 beeper chikas on the go at the same time, and well in general the more richer and 'better educated', the more racist against Haitians.

And sure, maybe the impressarios and medico's i'm spending my time with are all the exception and not the rule. But is everyone in bella vista the exception and not the rule?

So, so much for your theory!
Okey Dokey.

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I struggle about what to do if I hit somebody and it's my fault.

While I understand ~why~ not sticking around would be a viable option, I'm not 100% sure I could do it In Real Life, especially if that person is really hurt.

Hard to say how clearly one might think under extreme stress and fear.
 
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I struggle about what to do if I hit somebody and it's my fault.

While I understand ~why~ not sticking around would be a viable option, I'm not 100% sure I could do it In Real Life, especially if that person is really hurt.

Hard to say how clearly one might think under extreme stress and fear.

I just have a little comment to add.

In October of 2008, while crossing a street in Puerto Plata, I was struck and literally run over by a mini-van taxi.

The driver took enough responsibility to stop and take me to the hospital. At the time I was too dazed to realize how unusual that was. He returned to the hospital to check on my condition and sent a friend to take me home when I was released.

Given the extent of my injuries (and they were bad) I was advised to go to the Fiscal and initiate proceedings against him. He did give me some cash to help with my expenses (a laughable amount in light of the fact that my insurance was billed over $100,000 US for my care) so after a long period of thought I chose not to cause him legal problems.

It was an accident, he was responsible enough to stop and transport me and he tried to help with my costs. IMO, not the "typical Dominican" who most people on this board talk about.

CB, I can tell you from the point of view of someone who was injured by a car that the simple act of caring and compassion went a long way towards my eventual behavior towards the driver.

Sometimes "doing the right thing" is actually the best course of action to take.
 
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Sometimes "doing the right thing" is actually the best course of action to take.
i think that unfortunately there is a gap between a dominican causing an accident and a gringo doing the same. a dominican is on his own ground, he knows what to do and what can be done so that he does not get into any legal problems. a gringo is lost, eaten by nerves and under attack.
when i had my little car crash some little arsehole showed up telling me "you gringa, you will go to prison, you will have to pay, police will take you away". i asked him: "are you an owner of a car i hit? no, then f*** off". but many would be intimidated and would make easy victims of money extraction.
DR is for dominicans. not many gringos pay dominican prices, eat dominican food and live dominican life.
 

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i think that unfortunately there is a gap between a dominican causing an accident and a gringo doing the same. a dominican is on his own ground, he knows what to do and what can be done so that he does not get into any legal problems. a gringo is lost, eaten by nerves and under attack.
when i had my little car crash some little arsehole showed up telling me "you gringa, you will go to prison, you will have to pay, police will take you away". i asked him: "are you an owner of a car i hit? no, then f*** off". but many would be intimidated and would make easy victims of money extraction.
DR is for dominicans. not many gringos pay dominican prices, eat dominican food and live dominican life.

You meant to say a "gringo" in a tourist area.
 

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CB, I can tell you from the point of view of someone who was injured by a car that the simple act of caring and compassion went a long way towards my eventual behavior towards the driver.

Sometimes "doing the right thing" is actually the best course of action to take.

That can be said of the USA, Europe and many other more developed countries. But that is not the norm here, by any stretch of the imagination.

My advice, leave the scene if you can. Do not show compassion or hang around, the odds are very much stacked against you, regardless of who caused the accident. Avoid the mob at all costs!

When you are away from the scene and have gathered your head, find your lawyer or good Dominican friend and go to the police station. If you have "Casa de Conductor" as part of your insurance (idiot if you don't), go there.

If you cannot leave the scene and you have "Casa de Conductor" only go there, do not go to the police station, unless you're physically cuffed and dragged.

Under no circumstances admit liability or offer to pay anyone anything.
In 95% of cases if the other party is at obvious fault, they will lie through their teeth, regardless how stupid it might sound.
Let the cops, lawyer, fiscal, your insurance rep fight it out.

I know a guy that got hit by a drunk ex-cop that jumped an intersection going the wrong way on a one-way. He made that persons life hell for ages, because the victim was a Gringo and assumed he could get money out of him, despite being 100% at fault and breaking a bunch of laws.

You need to be very much Dominican in these situations, leave your worthless 1st world morals at home, they will often get you into more trouble and could end up costing you a ton of $$$, even if it's the other persons fault.
 
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That can be said of the USA, Europe and many other more developed countries. But that is not the norm here, by any stretch of the imagination.

My advice, leave the scene if you can. Do not show compassion or hang around, the odds are very much stacked against you, regardless of who caused the accident. Avoid the mob at all costs!

When you are away from the scene and have gathered your head, find your lawyer or good Dominican friend and go to the police station. If you have "Casa de Conductor" as part of your insurance (idiot if you don't), go there.

If you cannot leave the scene and you have "Casa de Conductor" only go there, do not go to the police station, unless you're physically cuffed and dragged.

Under no circumstances admit liability or offer to pay anyone anything.
In 95% of cases if the other party is at obvious fault, they will lie through their teeth, regardless how stupid it might sound.
Let the cops, lawyer, fiscal, your insurance rep fight it out.

I know a guy that got hit by a drunk ex-cop that jumped an intersection going the wrong way on a one-way. He made that persons life hell for ages, because the victim was a Gringo and assumed he could get money out of him, despite being 100% at fault and breaking a bunch of laws.

You need to be very much Dominican in these situations, leave your worthless 1st world morals at home, they will often get you into more trouble and could end up costing you a ton of $$$, even if it's the other persons fault.

Robert, my post was from the point of view of the victim, not the driver. I don't drive in the DR, PERIOD.
 

Robert

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Robert, my post was from the point of view of the victim, not the driver. I don't drive in the DR, PERIOD.

I'm aware of that, but the same rules apply.

Even if it's obviously their fault, your the victim, most will lie, regardless of how ridiculous it sounds.
 
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You need to be very much Dominican in these situations, leave your worthless 1st world morals at home, they will often get you into more trouble and could end up costing you a ton of $$$, even if it's the other persons fault.

lol. glad we agree Dominican's are immoral!
 

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lol. glad we agree Dominican's are immoral!

Unfortunately where money is concerned I have to agree, sickening and frustrating that I can find myself behaving the same to avoid exploitation, but that's how it is, when in Rome.......