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cavok

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I hope they decide to make it a little easier again. For instance they could lower the requirement of investment in a property. It was very easy 10-15 years ago. In a way its a contradiction making it more difficult on the one hand and then accepting multiple overstaying on the other.
That would be nice, but the trend has been to make it progressively harder and more expensive.
 

aarhus

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That would be nice, but the trend has been to make it progressively harder and more expensive.
Thats good making it harder regarding documentation but not sure making it more expensive is smart at this time and then at the same time accepting multiple overstaying.
 

aarhus

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Actually, the paperwork was much less. You didn't have to go to the US and apply for a residency visa with all the time, expense, and paperwork that involves.
Yes wherever you come from you have to start the process in your country of origin. Maybe that is one requirement they could make easier to get past the problem. Not sure what the reason is for the requirement but probably has to do with background check.
 

aarhus

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You had indicated you knew people to come and go. That's all. Just asking what their take on it was. No one suggested they were shady, but my you are very defensive
I think it was in another thread I merely pointed out property owners don’t always need to have residency. I believe that was the group I was referring to. If they come and go and don’t overstay there is not a problem. Then there is the snowbirds who stay longer and they overstay technically and hopefully are accommodated with a snowbird type visa. Finally there is a group you keep talking about and I don’t know anybody like that who have stayed for years and don’t legalize. Maybe the new DR government should look at that.
 

MikeFisher

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Yes the grace period during the big naturalization push was the time to do this. The amount of paperwork is the same but the scrutiny and duration of various phases of the approval process have expanded
exactly.
the naturalization process gave everybody the possibility to doit by the DR rules, with long time illegality pardoned.
what could any Illegal Immigrant in any country ask more for?
the ones who are here since yars and decades and did decide to not go the naturalization way, have nothing to complain and nobody to fault abaout than themselves, IF the DR government would in some future decide to run more strict by the long time existing Immigrations Law.
I personally see the urgent need for a 6months staying allowance.
may that been named a snowbird visa or the possibility to extend the 30 days tourist card under certaincircumstances for more months/up to 6months etc.
for our mid term visitors we need such max6 months alowance to Legaly stay,
so medical insurances and such things stay valid and donot expire after 31 days.
many snowbirds are "elderly" guests, so they are onaverage more in need of medical assistance, purchase meds etcetc while here in DR.
it would be important that they can get such services covered by their insurances.
I do not see a reason why illegal long term overstayers should be allowed at all to stay, run businesses, purchase properties etc.
but thats just my personal point of view.
 
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MikeFisher

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Yes wherever you come from you have to start the process in your country of origin. Maybe that is one requirement they could make easier to get past the problem. Not sure what the reason is for the requirement but probably has to do with background check.
to get residency should be made easier in a way where you can apply for it solely online, without traveling to ny embassy etc.
in todays times all such stuff can be done online and once all paperwork is submitted completely and approved as to be complete, then the person can get his/her cita at the Immigrations office to get their temp residency card.
even the interpol checks and all that stuff can all be done online.
there is no need to be at any specific location for the whole process other than to go their in person to receive the card.
 
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william webster

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The urgency for residency will go away with a better tourist card...ranging up to 6 months

want more than 6 month?
residency".......get in line
 
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MikeFisher

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The urgency for residency will go away with a better tourist card...ranging up to 6 months

want more than 6 month?
residency".......get in line
yes, a possibility that would work.
leave the actual 10 bucks tourist card valid for 30 days
and allow to extend it prior to expiring easy at any DGII or Immigrations office, just by presenting your valid passport, return flight ticket and payig there on the spot the fee for the added months, possible up to a 6 months total.
such could e easy and coost efficient handled administratively and hassle free for the traveler.
and nobody had any reason to complain about anything when caught as a illegal immigrant due what so ever coincedence in life.
who's not even going such simple way is simply up for deportation then.
 

windeguy

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I am not as dogmatic as you on this. I think the system needs to be adjusted yes but maybe the current overstayers should be warned if there is suddenly a change. Give them the chance to leave and then come back and an easier way to legal residency and a snowbird visa option.
Why should those who violated laws have an easier situation than someone who did not?
 

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Yes the grace period during the big naturalization push was the time to do this. The amount of paperwork is the same but the scrutiny and duration of various phases of the approval process have expanded
It was called "Regularization" . Two people in my development went for it. One of them got residency that way, the other didn't follow up.

(Naturalization means getting citizenship. )
 
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windeguy

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I think it was in another thread I merely pointed out property owners don’t always need to have residency. I believe that was the group I was referring to. If they come and go and don’t overstay there is not a problem. Then there is the snowbirds who stay longer and they overstay technically and hopefully are accommodated with a snowbird type visa. Finally there is a group you keep talking about and I don’t know anybody like that who have stayed for years and don’t legalize. Maybe the new DR government should look at that.
You forgot another group. Those that live here and only take short trips out but are not legal residents. I do know people like that. Others mentioned they know many people like that in Sosua.
 

GusFring

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Tourism is a moot point right now for next weeks agenda.

Tourism in this country is deader than Abe Lincoln.

Let's pick back up in February.

But yea, the government should limit the stays of people that are not coming here in the first place🙄
 
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