Non Governmental Organizations

Guatiao

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The last couple of weeks everybody has been talking about NGOs and their desire to see the DR unite with Haiti & what not.... I have a question which NGOs specifically are spewing these messages. I have searched on the web and nothing, I can only find Amnesty International talking about human rights but it mostly involves the NP & Arm Forces.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-dom/index

Peace,
Capo
 

Guatiao

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Ummmm.... interesting

40 views and no replies or information..... ummmmmmmm.........interesting.

Capo :disappoin
 

ricktoronto

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Don't start expecting people have to have credible sources for what they post or the Airline Info section will vanish.
 

deelt

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Haitian-Dominicans Something Real on the Issue

Capo and all those in NYC- I suggest you attend this event.
Deelt

Dialogue on Integrating a Nation:
The Impact of the Recent Decision of the Inter-American Court
on the Rights of Haitian-Dominicans

Panelists:
Sonia Pierre, Director, Movimiento de Mujeres Dominico-Haitiana (MUDHA), Leading Organization for Haitian-Dominican Rights

David Baluarte, Centro Por La Justicia y el Derecho Internacional (CEJIL), Attorney Representing MUDHA before the Inter-American Court

Eduardo Paulino, City University of New York, Professor of History

Thursday, October 27
6:30pm-8:00pm
Columbia University - The Irving Cancer Research Center
1130 St. Nicholas Avenue, Near 168th St., Room 114 - First Floor
Washington Heights, New York City

For further information please contact Julissa Reynoso at 646 228 8610
or Radhames Rodriguez at 718 543 0410


Dialogo Sobre la Integracion de una Nacion:
El Impacto de la Reciente Decision de La Corte Inter-Americana a los Derechos de los Haitiano-Dominicanos

Panelistas:
Sonia Pierre, Directora, Movimiento de Mujeres Dominico-Haitiana (MUDHA), Organizacion para la Defensa de los Derechos de los Haitiano-Dominicanos

David Baluarte, Centro Por La Justicia y el Derecho Internacional (CEJIL), Abogado Representando a MUDHA Ante la Corte Inter-Americana

Eduardo Paulino, City University of New York, Profesor de Historia


Jueves, 27 de Octubre
6:30pm-8:00pm
Columbia University - The Irving Cancer Research Center
1130 St. Nicholas Avenue, Near 168th St., Room 114 - First Floor
Washington Heights, New York City

Para mas informacion llame a Julissa Reynoso al 646 228 8610
o a Radhames Rodriguez al 718 543 0410


capodominicano said:
The last couple of weeks everybody has been talking about NGOs and their desire to see the DR unite with Haiti & what not.... I have a question which NGOs specifically are spewing these messages. I have searched on the web and nothing, I can only find Amnesty International talking about human rights but it mostly involves the NP & Arm Forces.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-dom/index

Peace,
Capo
 

NALs

Economist by Profession
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capodominicano said:
The last couple of weeks everybody has been talking about NGOs and their desire to see the DR unite with Haiti & what not.... I have a question which NGOs specifically are spewing these messages. I have searched on the web and nothing, I can only find Amnesty International talking about human rights but it mostly involves the NP & Arm Forces.

http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-dom/index

Peace,
Capo
Its not an official declaration and its not clear what the desires of the NGO's organizations truly are.

Of course, some NGO groups are truly in favor of progress and well being for all types of peoples, but it's like Chiri once posted, there are NGO's and then there are NGO's.

For example,

An NGO complains that Haitian citizens are denied Dominican citizenship, then during Hipolito thousands of Haitian citizens were given Dominican citizenship, and those NGO continued through the acts of granting Dominican citizenship as if nothing was occuring.

Then there are the organizations presenting the issue at the Interamerican court in Costa Rica. The accusations were made by these organizations presenting the headlines of Dominican newspapers pertaining to the repercussions after the killing of the Dominican woman in Hatillo Palma by a couple of Haitian migrants. These organizations did not presented the newspaper headlines of that particular incident, but they did presented the headlines of the incidents that occured against Haitians by Dominican criminals, etc.

And then there is a host of things that many groups say and then you see them do something that is not consistent with what they said.

All of this leads to this, the allegations of Haitian take over of the island are just that, allegations. No body has concrete proof that this is actually occuring, but no body has concrete proof that is not occuring or that these organizations are or are not anti-dominican in nature.

Remember, being pro-Dominican is often considered to be an act of xenophobia, anti-haitianism, and racism while being pro-haitian is seen as justified, in search of equality, and the such, but never as anti-dominicanism.

There is some truth in both sides, but the word SOME has plenty of weight in this argument.

You can see this phenomenon here on DR1, where a Haitian would claim that they don't want the unification or destruction of the DR and then go on to degrade Dominican culture as something on the same level as Haitian culture, not taking into account that there are differences. Usually, they attempt to minimize the differences and often they charge the DR for things the DR had no say and/or influence over, things that affect Haiti. An example would be the Haitian initiated, executed, and defended coup of Aristide, also the issue of tourists primarily visiting the DR and not Haiti many Haitians consider this to be an act of Dominicans stealing Haitian tourists, in addition to the fact that the Haiti media only publishes anything about the DR when its regarding to deportations, bateyes, and of the sort, but hardly ever do they make comment on anything else that occurs in the DR.

Dominican media does a better job in covering things that occur in Haiti than does Haitian media towards things that occur in the DR, except negative things that occur with illegal Haitian migrants which make front page news and are blasted over and over on radio stations nationwide in Haiti.

You have the current prime minister who earlier this year claimed that Haitians don't need a visa to cross the border, and the list goes on.

To make the matter even less stable, its very clear that if any Haitian reveals his/her anti-dominicanismo and clearly states that he/she is anti-dominican, that would be a blow to the support system they have built around the issue of illegal aliens in the DR. In fact, the reason why the DR is often discredited is because the anti-Haitian phenomenon has been written about extensively, where as the anti-Dominican phenomenon which is just as strong and widespread in Haiti is hardly written about, and when it is its usually a line or two.

The list is long, but this mistrust is nothing new. It has existed since the two countries came into existence. And it will continue to exist as long as people say one thing and then do the other.

As examples take a look at this occurence:
http://www.dominicantoday.com/app/article.aspx?id=6153

If you want to review the Haitian media, check these sites (you will need an understanding of French to get most of the news):

www.metropolehaiti.com

This is one of the few Haitian media sources that actually posts its news in French, Creole, Spanish, and English, in addition to putting attention to the DR:
www.alterpresse.org

To see what attitude other Haitians have towards Dominicans and the sort, look into this forum:
http://www.haitixchange.com/hx/foru...forum=1&searchSort=dateDESC&ReturnPage=Search

-NAL
 
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deelt

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PRESS RELEASE OF TOMORROW's EVENT

Community Forum on the Rights of Haitian-Dominicans

and the Role of the Dominican Community in Promoting Democracy

October 27.- On October 7, 2005, the Inter-American Court for Human Rights, in a historic decision, recognized the right of Dominican-born children of Haitian ancestry to nationality and education. After a seven year legal battle, the ruling requires the Dominican government to reform public policy to address historic discrimination in its birth registration and education systems. The Dominican government has condemned the decision as a violation of state sovereignty.

In light of the decision and the controversy surrounding it, the Dominican community is holding a public forum to discuss the impact of the decision on the state of human rights in the Dominican Republic ? and what role the Dominican immigrant community can play in promoting human rights and democratic principles in the Dominican Republic.

The public forum will be held on Thursday, October 27 at 6:30 p.m. Columbia University, The Irving Cancer Research Center, 1130 St. Nicholas Avenue, Near 168th St., Room 114 - First Floor, Washington Heights, New York City.

Panelists include Sonia Pierre, Director of the Movement of Dominican-Haitian Women (MUDHA), one of the leading advocates for Haitian-Dominican rights; David Baluarte of the Center for Justice and International Law (CEJIL), attorney for MUDHA before the Inter-American Court; and Eduardo Paulino, History Professor at the City University of New York.

The forum is being organized and sponsored by the Dominican Women?s Development Center, Grassroots Haiti Solidarity, San Romero de las Americas, Coalition of Dominicans in Solidarity with the Haitian Community, La Aurora, and the Northern Manhattan Coalition for Immigrant Rights (list in information).

For further information please contact Julissa Reynoso at 646 228 8610 or Hortensia Gonzalez at 212 740 1929.

PARA PUBLICACI?N INMEDIATA
Foro Comunitario sobre los Derechos de los Haitianos-Dominicanos y el Rol de la Comunidad Dominicana en la Promoci?n de la Democracia

27 de octubre.- El 7 de octubre de 2005 la Corte Interamericana de Derechos Humanos, en una decisi?n hist?rica, reconoci? el derecho de los ni?os nativos Dominicanos de ancestros Haitianos a la nacionalidad y educaci?n. Luego de una batalla legal de siete a?os, la sentencia exige al Gobierno Dominicano reformar su orden p?blico a los efectos de atender la hist?rica discriminaci?n en el registro de nacimientos y sistemas educativos. El Gobierno Dominicano ha condenado la decisi?n como violatoria de la soberan?a estatal.

A la luz de la decisi?n y la controversia que la rodea, la comunidad Dominicana celebrar? un foro p?blico a los fines de debatir sobre el impacto de la sentencia en el estado de los derechos humanos en la Rep?blica Dominicana ? y qu? rol puede desarrollar la comunidad inmigrante Dominicana en la promoci?n de los derechos humanos y principios democr?ticos en la Rep?blica Dominicana.

El foro p?blico se celebrar? el jueves 27 de octubre a las 6:30 p.m. en la Universidad de Columbia, en ?The Irving Cancer Research Center?, 1130 St. Nicholas Avenue, cerca de 168 St., Aula 114 ? Primer Piso, Washington Heights, Ciudad de Nueva York.

Los panelistas incluyen a Sonia Pierre, Directora del Movimiento de Mujeres Haitiana-Dominicana (MUDHA), una de las principales defensoras de los derechos de los Haitianos-Dominicanos; David Baluarte del Centro para la Justicia y Ley Internacional (CEJIL), abogado representante de MUDHA ante la Corte Interamericana; y Eduardo Paulino, Profesor de Historia de la ?City University? de Nueva York.

El foro es organizado y patrocinado por el Centro de Desarrollo de la Mujer Dominicana, Grassroots Haiti Solidarity, San Romero de las Americas, Coalici?n de Dominicanos en Solidaridad con la Comunidad Haitiana, La Aurora y la Coalici?n del Norte Manhattan por los Derechos de los Inmigrantes (listado en informaci?n).

Para mayor informaci?n por favor cont?ctese con Julissa Reynoso al 646 228 8610 o con Hortensia Gonz?lez al 212 740 1929.