PAWA Dominicana announces Flights to US and Caribbean

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caribNY said:
Those AA prices were dirt cheap. Put it this way with the PAWA website down they wouldn't have gotten that business. If a cheap fare is available, even if it isn't the absolute lowest the nonstop flight will grab the passenger. Most people try to minimize time spent on planes.

With the 3rd largest Caribbean origin population in the USA (behind Puerto Ricans, and Cubans) there is no doubt that PAWA will do well on its JFK/MIA routes. With strong ties between PR and DR (both directions) clearly PAWA should also do well into SJU.

So it isn't as if I am claiming that PAWA will not do well. Even if no leisure passenger steps foot on these planes the huge Dominican population guarantees a market. I have never seen a bad review for this airline so I assume that most Dominicans will give them a try.

My point is PAWA thinking that SDQ will emerge as a hub for travel between the Caribbean and the USA. It will not for all the reasons that I gave. This isn't to say that they might not get some business, but if on any MIA flight only 10 or 15 passengers transfer that really isn't a hub.

I also see no reason why PAWA will kill its yields to compete against carriers with nonstop service to JFK/MIA when they can definitely command good yields on the JFK/MIA SDQ, given the very strong ethnic market which exists.
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It appears as if Insel is in full meltdown, and it will not surprise me if the CUR grounds them, as they have begun to cannibalize their planes for parts. So short of cash, because Venezuela has their $$$. Some one will replace them as CUR is too valuable a hub for Caribbean/South America traffic. So this PAWA advantage will be short term.

So PAWA can do well on its CUR/AUA routes, even into SXM where Insel (theoretically) flies daily nonstop, And of course into PAP/HAV from its Caribbean points, as these have poor connectivity to most parts of the Caribbean.

PAWA will really have to be cheap to PAP to entice some one to spend 5 hours flying, plus a transfer, when MIA/FLL is a mere 1 1/2 hours away. Remember also that Haitians travel very heavy, so lugging cabin bags around will be tough with a transfer. The 4 y/o kid will use their cabin allocation. Obviously the adult will have to carry this, plus their own.
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Im agree with you about JFK/MIA/SJU where there are a tons of Dominicans living, but remember that PAWA is not thinking only serve Dominicans. So can you tell me what are your recomendations for the next routs they plan to open like POS, KIN, NASS, where there are not a lot Dominicans living? Hub mean habilibity of connect between flights and that is what PAWA is doing now in SDQ now, connecting south Caribbean - East Caribbean, Mayor Antilleans - and USA, and the only way to do that is working as a Hub.

About faster way to arrive is not the only reason to use an airline, bedside the price if plane is full or travel schedule can make you to take a longer route with stop in some other airport.
 
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Riva_31 said:
Im agree with you about JFK/MIA/SJU where there are a tons of Dominicans living, but remember that PAWA is not thinking only serve Dominicans. So can you tell me what are your recomendations for the next routs they plan to open like POS, KIN, NASS, where there are not a lot Dominicans living? Hub mean habilibity of connect between flights and that is what PAWA is doing now in SDQ now, connecting south Caribbean - East Caribbean, Mayor Antilleans - and USA, and the only way to do that is working as a Hub.

About faster way to arrive is not the only reason to use an airline, bedside the price if plane is full or travel schedule can make you to take a longer route with stop in some other airport.
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KIN, POS, and NAS don't need SDQ as a hub to get to MIA and JFK.

SDQ is a major destination/point of origin in itself. Its the poor transportation to this city from the points noted that has hampered the development of that route. SDQ can also be a hub for people traveling to HAV, and PAP from POS. PAWA can run a KIN PAP SDQ service, with connections to SJU. In fact SDQ can even be a hub for people traveling POS SJU, given that many now travel via MIA. And, subject to route rights, PAWA can run an SDQ KIN HAV service, alternating with the flight to KIN via PAP.

HAV PAP and SDQ are very isolated from most of the English speaking, and its improving this connectivity that is needed.

There are also decent numbers of Dominicans living in POS. After all Dominicans, along with Haitians, are the cheap labor in most parts of the Caribbean.
 
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Pawa Dominicana MD87 at San Juan on Dec 9th 2016, engine shut down in flight

A Pawa Dominicana McDonnell Douglas MD-87, registration HI978 performing flight 7N-750 from San Juan (Puerto Rico) to Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) with 112 people on board, was in the initial climb out of San Juan's runway 08 when the crew declared Mayday reporting the failure of the left hand engine (JT8D) and requested an immediate return to San Juan via left hand turns, no emergency services were needed. The aircraft joined a left downwind to runway 08 while tower instructed aircraft on approach to runway 08 to go around. The MD-87 landed safely on runway 08 about 10 minutes after departure and taxied to the apron.

The airline confirmed an engine failure on departure from San Juan. The passengers returned to the terminal waiting for a replacement aircraft.
 
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When my wife saw the news, she said there is no way she would ever fly on a DR Airline. She had already said that when they started service.
 
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Two days ago at MIA I witnessed PAWA enforcing the return ticket rule, the planes may fall down but they won't let you board with a one way ticket. A Dominican woman with a US passport was denied travelling on a one way ticket. Needless to say she started arguing.
 
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windeguy said:
When my wife saw the news, she said there is no way she would ever fly on a DR Airline. She had already said that when they started service.
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Tell your wife to think also twice if she is planning about fly with Copa, they had 2 issues in less than 2 weeks with same problem as PAWA with an engine.

This was like 2 weeks ago.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/artic...ba-mexico-aterriza-de-emergencia-en-guatemala

This was 2 days ago in Cuba
http://laestrella.com.pa/panama/nac...s-presenta-falla-antes-despegar-cuba/23975691
 
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Has PAWA determined when they will start JFK SDQ run? It seems as if they should do so soon before people start making their summer plans as that is a good time to make $$.
 
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interesting article in la zeta today saying that aerodom (a company that administers many of the airports in DR) wants local authorities to investigate financial solvency of PAWA.
according to aerodom PAWA owed them about a million bucks for airport services and also owes more money to other airport management companies. they say that apparently PAWA does not have the capacity to cover the operation costs.

http://z101digital.com/articulos/ae...ca-de-la-aerolinea-pawa-dominicana-07-07-2017
 
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i don't see why Kingston..is there any traffic there? Air Jamaica tried it with those puddle jumpers that American Eagle uses, and had to give up.
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Conections mostly, and maybe Jamaicans are giving some facilities and incentives to PAWA to open the route, a lot tourist come here and will be easy to do multidestination, I know some that came here and from here fly to other islands.
 
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Riva_31 said:
Conections mostly, and maybe Jamaicans are giving some facilities and incentives to PAWA to open the route, a lot tourist come here and will be easy to do multidestination, I know some that came here and from here fly to other islands.
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makes a lot of sense, now that you explain it that way.
 
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Riva_31 said:
Conections mostly, and maybe Jamaicans are giving some facilities and incentives to PAWA to open the route, a lot tourist come here and will be easy to do multidestination, I know some that came here and from here fly to other islands.
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Connections where? In the short run I can see to CUR but once Insel is back up and running Jamaicans will prefer the direct service. I know that both the DR and the Jamaicans gov'ts want direct service as they believe that will stimulate business ties, and maybe some leisure traffic. Sometimes direct service has been known to stimulate travel that didn't previously exist.

I can more see POS as I think that there is already solid business travel to SDQ and there is also a Dominican population in POS.
 
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