President Abinader establishes committee to review country’s migration legal framework

windeguy

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Meemselle, It does not surprise me in the least that people like the special treatment they get when they arrive on a tourist card.

Why would such people have an issue with it?
 

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Let's hope they do something to make it easier for people who want to live here legally to get Residency. Many countries in the region have much more straightforward Residency processes. And a friend just told me that further afield, you can now get a ten-year tourist visa for Thailand.
they can go back to their country and start the process there.
 
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johne

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A very pompous but complete explanation of your persona. I'm sure the greater percentage of the population here have the same feelings about "your citizenship "here in the DR.
 

windeguy

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A very pompous but complete explanation of your persona. I'm sure the greater percentage of the population here have the same feelings about "your citizenship "here in the DR.
Thank you . I use facts to explain my position based in the laws, which are not being observed for a special group of people.

I could care less what others think about it.
 

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I have explalined this before. But here goes the short answer.
I don't like illegals in either country where I am a citizen.

I don't like illegls working here illegally. And as long as the government does not care about people
from tourist card countries working, they will. The government provides them with special treatment by
ignoring the immigration laws. The government only cares about one group of illegals.
I'm rooting for the underdogs.
Long Live The Overstayers!
 
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It has been reported in the news that banks in the DR will only let people on tourist cards open an account within 30 days of arrival into the DR.
That is because they are only legally here for 30 days when arriving on a tourist card.


If you’re a foreign non-resident opening a bank account in the DR, it’s a straightforward process, and local banks are accustomed to establishing accounts for foreigners. So, you’ll have no issues opening an account, assuming you’ve provided the required documentation and are in the country legally. This means for non-residents within the first 30 days of their stay in the country, or if they entered with a visa and did not pass the allowed time.

(Why within 30 days on a tourist card? After that you are NOT LEGALLY IN THE DR... This is very hard for some people to understand. Even some imbecile lawyers it appears.)
Tell me, which normal tourist with 30 days max would ever feel the need to open a bank account here?
 

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they can go back to their country and start the process there.
If you are referring to foreigners living in the DR, you are right, but as I have said earlier in this thread, the process is unnecessarily complex. I did what you said many years ago and it was fairly difficult then, but now it is worse. I know of many people here, British, Canadian, American and Italian who have started the process and given up. It is even more difficult if you do not have a place to stay somewhere near an Embassy that handles the process, because of all the waiting and back-and-forth that goes on. For example, Brits now have to go the Dom. Embassy in Paris to do it. An English friend of mine was lucky because his family had a place near Paris and they could stay there for a couple of months while going through the process. Other people would not be willing or able to go through the expense and time to do it.
 

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By the way, whenever the DR government refers to Migration Reform, that only means Haitians. There is no focus on others at all - they just don't care about them.

Until there’s 30k Americans, 30k Chinese, 30k Russians engaging in what is nothing more than “birth tourism”, then yeh it’ll probably just and rightly be targeted towards the population practicing this ie Haitians.
 

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windeguy

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Until there’s 30k Americans, 30k Chinese, 30k Russians engaging in what is nothing more than “birth tourism”, then yeh it’ll probably just and rightly be targeted towards the population practicing this ie Haitians.
Until the 12th of never, until then the focus will alawys be on Haitians. Others can prettty much do what they please.
 

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Until there’s 30k Americans, 30k Chinese, 30k Russians engaging in what is nothing more than “birth tourism”, then yeh it’ll probably just and rightly be targeted towards the population practicing this ie Haitians.
I expect to see a significant drop in numbers for the remainder of this year thanks to Luis stationing immigration officers
at each hospital.
 

windeguy

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No, they wouldn't work as hard as the Haitians! ;):)
On that I have no doubt.

Despite that if they are illegal the bosses should be fined and the illegal workers deported.

If they can come up with a work visa, that would be so much better, but I understand they really aren't doing many of those for Haitians these days.

And so it goes.
 

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By the way I have a response from a well respected lawyer who shall remain nameless and also will not let me quote verbatim their direct message to me about illegal stays for tourist cards after 30 days.

That lawyer said a tourist card cannot be extended legally despite the payment allowed on Migracions web site. That lawyer also called the money payed on exiting the DR when exceeding 30 days a fine and not a fee. So there is that.

Sadly, I cannot quote verbatim since I don't have permission to do that. But that agrees with everything I have ever seen on the topic .
Immigration Law 285-04 from the year 2004, (article 40 and 36),and law 631-11, state that someone who enters with a visa or tourist card can stay for sixty days. (Article 81). It also provides that tourists can extend their stay. The law describe multiple categories of non residents and how they can extend their stay. If your lawyer calls them fines, keep in mind that immigration itself doesn´t call them that. It´s fees.
 
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It has been reported in the news that banks in the DR will only let people on tourist cards open an account within 30 days of arrival into the DR.
That is because they are only legally here for 30 days when arriving on a tourist card.

So you´re talking about something that WILL happen? I asked a couple of bank employees about this and they had no idea.
 

windeguy

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So you´re talking about something that WILL happen? I asked a couple of bank employees about this and they had no idea.
Am I surprised that a bank employee has no idea of DR laws regarding accounts? Uhm nope.
No, this is something that does happen as was said in very simple language from the article:

If you’re a foreign non-resident opening a bank account in the DR, it’s a straightforward process, and local banks are accustomed to establishing accounts for foreigners. So, you’ll have no issues opening an account, assuming you’ve provided the required documentation and are in the country legally. This means for non-residents within the first 30 days of their stay in the country, or if they entered with a visa and did not pass the allowed time.
After 30 days on a tourist card, you are in the country illegally and should not be allowed to open a bank account. Does that still happen? You are in the DR..