Inactivated virus vaccines like Sinovac have never been known to have adverse effects that show up long after receiving the vaccine. There have been some long term consequences that showed up shortly after the vaccine was given. I haven't even heard of any of those yet.
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I have a friend in Australia , a retired air force commander (colonel equivalent ) that has been doing extensive research on all the vaccines, others medicines being used for treatment....etc and one point he brought up that I hadn't though of is that the Chinese are not trying to copy or use a mRNA vaccine. Why?
The Chinese are a lot smarter that you think and they are expert thieves, plus I said they aren't working on one.
Is your friend a qualified scientist? Medical researcher?
I'm well aware of how smart and technologically advanced the Chinese are, but most the advanced technology they have, we either taught them how to do or they outright stole the intellectual property from us. I read that several months ago, China did begin work on developing their own mRNA vaccine. There's a lot more to it than just copying it.
Moderna analysis: Those vaccinated last year twice more likely to get COVID-19 than those jabbed recently
Moderna released data showing its COVID-19 vaccine is effective in preventing serious health issues or death from “variants of concern" but admitting that those who received the vaccine last year were twice as likely to get the coronavirus disease.
www.foxnews.com
Indeed - they have a couple of mRNA projects going.
China’s Sinopharm seeks to develop its own mRNA Covid vaccine
Well your friend was wrong..
China’s mRNA Covid Shot-Maker Expects Efficacy Data by Year End
The company behind China’s first homegrown mRNA Covid-19 vaccine aims to have efficacy data from late-stage testing of the shot before the end of the year, a key step in the nation’s drive to match western use of the cutting-edge technology.
www.bloomberg.com
Guess they must have found a way to steal it.Well your friend was wrong..
China’s mRNA Covid Shot-Maker Expects Efficacy Data by Year End
The company behind China’s first homegrown mRNA Covid-19 vaccine aims to have efficacy data from late-stage testing of the shot before the end of the year, a key step in the nation’s drive to match western use of the cutting-edge technology.
They certainly are trying;
Exclusive: China-backed hackers 'targeted COVID-19 vaccine firm Moderna'
Chinese government-linked hackers targeted biotech company Moderna Inc, a U.S.-based coronavirus vaccine research developer, this year in a bid to steal data, according to a U.S. security official tracking Chinese hacking.
www.reuters.com
And yes, I think you could say they are "experts" at it.
Survey of Chinese Espionage in the United States Since 2000
This survey lists 160 publicly reported instances of Chinese espionage directed at the United States since 2000. It does not include espionage against other countries, against U.S. firms or persons located in China, nor more than 50 additional cases involving attempts to smuggle munitions or...
www.csis.org
Germany has been working on developing their own mRNA vaccine and haven't very good results yet and Germany is more technologically advanced than China. mRNA vaccines are not easy to copy or steal. If Pfizer or Moderna were producing it in China, that might be a possibility, but they're not.
www.telegraph.co.uk
Trial reveals disappointing results for German-developed mRNA vaccine
Emergence of new variants blamed for low efficacy rates
www.telegraph.co.uk
Your article references CureVac.Germany has been working on developing their own mRNA vaccine and haven't very good results yet and Germany is more technologically advanced than China. mRNA vaccines are not easy to copy or steal. If Pfizer or Moderna were producing it in China, that might be a possibility, but they're not.
Trial reveals disappointing results for German-developed mRNA vaccine
Emergence of new variants blamed for low efficacy rates
But BionNTech, also German, has combined forces with Pfizer and all those Pfizer jabs given in the DR and elsewhere around the globe were mRNA.........developed by BionTech in collaboration between the two companies.
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Playacaribe2
I think that only highlights just how hard it is for a company to develop an mRNA vaccine.
It does...................hence why countries like China prefer to let others do the work on vaccines.............then steal their intellectual property.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
It's not all that easy or fast to steal intellectual property. That's why China still hasn't produced a mRNA vaccine.
We sold our soul to the devil when we started producing a lot of very advanced technology in China. A lot of the intellectual property was stolen right in China.
Take processors and SSD's for example. You can't take them apart and see what's inside like you could with a circuit board on an amplifier. We went into China and built extremely complicated production facilities. They saw how it was done. They have advanced and leap-frogged ahead decades as a result of this.
Agreed. But still faster and easier than developing your own. If it were not easier/faster to steal it, none of this likely would have taken place;
Survey of Chinese Espionage in the United States Since 2000
This survey lists 160 publicly reported instances of Chinese espionage directed at the United States since 2000. It does not include espionage against other countries, against U.S. firms or persons located in China, nor more than 50 additional cases involving attempts to smuggle munitions or...
www.csis.org
If they do develop (not steal) an mRNA vaccine, I certainly hope it has better results than the placebo-like Si-No Vac. For awhile they head-faked lots of countries............who are just now finally awakening.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
play a different record. It's a bad tune and not very accurate.Agreed. But still faster and easier than developing your own. If it were not easier/faster to steal it, none of this likely would have taken place;
Survey of Chinese Espionage in the United States Since 2000
This survey lists 160 publicly reported instances of Chinese espionage directed at the United States since 2000. It does not include espionage against other countries, against U.S. firms or persons located in China, nor more than 50 additional cases involving attempts to smuggle munitions or...
If they do develop (not steal) an mRNA vaccine, I certainly hope it has better results than the placebo-like Si-No Vac. For awhile they head-faked lots of countries............who are just now finally awakening.
Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
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