Questions on Air Conditioner Type: "Aire Split"

chico bill

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Installation will require 220V electrical service to the install location for the compressor, a hole drilled in the wall for the tubing from compressor to evaporator, a place for the condensate to drain to that won't mold or pool. Can be mounted high up on a wall using brackets but seems normal for people to take some steps to keep the outdoor until from growing legs and walking away.
They do sell 110 Volt units at Refrio en Puerto Plata. I installed a 12K BTU one in an Apt in Montellano
 

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If whatever room you are looking to cool is small enough and you don't have a 220 volt service at your property than by all means go with a 120 volt unit.It is a common misconception that a 240 volt unit will be more efficient and or will save you electricity.wattage is wattage is wattage. European household appliances are 220 volt but their rated wattage is the same IE 1800 watt hair dryer,600 watt coffee maker,1200 watt microwave.Whenever you increase Voltage you decrease amperage (indirectly proportional) the only savings that come into play is wire size and less current draw on your service.

So what in a nutshell does my mumbo jumbo get at? You shouldn't be concerned with 220 vs 110 if indeed the room you'll be cooling is small enough so that either 9k or 12k BTU mini split will serve your purpose.
When using 220V wires, the current required is less than 110V wires. Power is measured in watts. Therefore, to obtain 900 watts of power, using a 220-volt wire will require 4.1 amperes, and using a 110-volt wire will require approximately 8.2 amperes.
 

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You also should seriously consider an Inverter split A/C. They are much cheaper to operate whether they are 110 or 220.
I've heard really good things about inverter A/C units, but two A/C technicians told me they don't recommend them if you live close to the beach because the salt air will burn out the tarjeta too quickly.
 

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What are the choices for placement of a split AC compressor other than the roof (which I want to avoid due to theft--and there is definitely theft in the area where I live)? Got you point about location of units in the world. Split units seem more designed for warm/hot countries that do not need heating and therefore do not need a centralized system
At the risk of sounding like a mini split sales person I will try my best to convince you on a mini split, especially the inverter type. One of the top attributes for an inverter mini split.( Considering you're going to be using on the island) is the fact that the motors on the compressors ramp up to full power, in addition once your room reaches desired temp the unit will run at a slower pace. Unlike non-inverter units that motor will run at full power regardless if it's maintaining temperature or bringing you down to desired temperature.

This is a major advantage for someone who is looking to have his or her cooling on an inverter (provided you have the battery capacity). The amount of start up current required for a non-inverter mini split is much higher because that motor is coming on full blast, and continues at that same speed just to maintain set temp.Whichever route you take there on the island you're gonna pay more upfront but at the very least with the inverter the cost will offset in electric bill savings.
 
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When using 220V wires, the current required is less than 110V wires. Power is measured in watts. Therefore, to obtain 900 watts of power, using a 220-volt wire will require 4.1 amperes, and using a 110-volt wire will require approximately 8.2 amperes.
It will still be the same number of kWh clocked in the power meter
 
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As far as brand is concerned, I would buy in this order:

Daikin
Carrier
Lennox
LG
Ciac
KTC
Innovair
TGM

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Other brand Chinese AC

A SEER 21 Inverter mini split Daikin / Carrier / Lennox is a very worthy investment.
 
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chico bill

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A 220 v

All things being equal, a 220 volt motor uses less power on startup that a 110 volt motor. A/C's are constantly turning on and off. It might not be much. but the 220 volt motor will use less electric. You can use smaller wires and breakers, too.
Yes and although a utility company bills us for wattage - an electrician should consider voltage drop due to resistance in wires - this causes loss due to high resistance and why 220 is recommended.
All things equal (wire size, distance) 220 is a more efficient unit as it splits the load. Like having two workers carrying a loaded trash barrel instead on one straining to lift it.
If you have 220 service from your utility provider absolutely go with 220.
And the primary cost of the unit is cheaper per BTU output. And a 110 AC is usually limited to 12 K BTU which is only enough for a medium sized bedroom. .
 
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Installation will require 220V electrical service to the install location for the compressor, a hole drilled in the wall for the tubing from compressor to evaporator, a place for the condensate to drain to that won't mold or pool. Can be mounted high up on a wall using brackets but seems normal for people to take some steps to keep the outdoor until from growing legs and walking away.
My new split AC unit from KTC in our bedroom is 120V. It replaced a Samsung model that was 220V. The KTC is quieter and uses less power than the Samsung. NO issues at all with it being only 110V. None. It's 9,000 BTUs keep the room cold enough to hang meat, like my wife likes it.
 

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My new split AC unit from KTC in our bedroom is 120V. It replaced a Samsung model that was 220V. The KTC is quieter and uses less power than the Samsung. NO issues at all with it being only 110V. None. It's 9,000 BTUs keep the room cold enough to hang meat, like my wife likes it.
Is she planning your demise ?
 
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As far as brand is concerned, I would buy in this order:

Daikin
Carrier
Lennox
LG
Ciac
KTC
Innovair
TGM

...
Other brand Chinese AC

A SEER 21 Inverter mini split Daikin / Carrier / Lennox is a very worthy investment.
I had ONE choice where I lived two years ago for a 9,000 BTU split. That choice was KTC.
REFRIPARTES in Puerto Plata had NONE in that size range, so I purchased the KTC from a distributor in Bombita near the Hormigones plant.
Options even then were "CV19" limited. Spare parts from my TGM in my studio? Oh my... don't get me started.
 
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I had ONE choice where I lived two years ago for a 9,000 BTU split. That choice was KTC.
REFRIPARTES in Puerto Plata had NONE in that size range, so I purchased the KTC from a distributor in Bombita near the Hormigones plant.
Options even then were "CV19" limited. Spare parts from my TGM in my studio? Oh my... don't get me started.
You can buy spare parts for TGM directly from distributor in Miami and ship via courier, in case they are not available locally.

 
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As far as brand is concerned, I would buy in this order:

Daikin
Carrier
Lennox
LG
Ciac
KTC
Innovair
TGM

...

Other brand Chinese AC

A SEER 21 Inverter mini split Daikin / Carrier / Lennox is a very worthy investment.

The leading brand in my area for reliability, serviceability and warranty is by a wide margin Mitsubishi, followed closely by Fujitsu.


Respectfully,
Playacaribe2
 

windeguy

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You can buy spare parts for TGM directly from distributor in Miami and ship via courier, in case they are not available locally.

I called them, they didn't have the part, either. The local repair guy tracked one down.

PC2- I don't think I have seen a Mitsubishi or Fujitsu for sale on the north coast.
 

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I called them, they didn't have the part, either. The local repair guy tracked one down.

PC2- I don't think I have seen a Mitsubishi or Fujitsu for sale on the north coast.
I bought a compressor from them for my A/C. They had to search for a few hours to find one and it was the last in stock.
 

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You mentioned not seeing split units in the usa...I have a mitsubishi split system that provides both a/c and heat. I have a 24K compressor with three ports for the inside air handlers. Presently, I am using one 18K (living area) and one 8K air handlers (master bedroom) and one port not yet used. I do plan to install another 8K air handler in a guest bedroom. I do have central hvac although with the installation of the split units I very seldom have the need to use the central unit as I close off rooms that are not in use. In the winter months any thing below 25F I use central heating, mainly to keep the water pipes from freezing.
I'm sure you could mimic my setup, use a compressor unit with several ports and run air handlers as needed. Not all air handlers would need to be on at one time if you are not using the area. As to voltages, you will be running new electric and control cable to the compressor regardless. Might as well make it 220 vac and save a few bucks in the long run. Rgds
 
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correct,there is NO monetary/power savings of a 220 anything over a 110,simple math.
actually it's near 5% savings when line loss is considered plus the size of the wiring for 220 is reduced for additional savings.
 

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I don't think many large spaces can be cooled by a 110 Volt AC.
And as far as cooling it is best to over size slightly the BTU capacity so not to have to over work a small AC on hot days to keep up.
a 9K BTU on the top floor in DR will likely not even keep a bedroom at the temperature gringos prefer.
Best to size for 18K for a larger Bedroom and 24 K for living space
 
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My new split AC unit from KTC in our bedroom is 120V. It replaced a Samsung model that was 220V. The KTC is quieter and uses less power than the Samsung. NO issues at all with it being only 110V. None. It's 9,000 BTUs keep the room cold enough to hang meat, like my wife likes it.
Must be the inverter models compare to the regular old type AC. The principle behind Digital inverter technology for AC or fridge is that compressor does not start and stop constantly to supply the demand but rather only slows down or speed up to supply the demand. Economical because when motor/compressor starts pulls a lot of current.