Re: Tourist look for the worst in countries, WHY!

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tgf

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Re: Tourist look for the worst in countries, WHY!

Junior,

Good post. Unfortunately, there are some sick individuals who will take advantage of countries with lots of poverty and poor enforcement of existing laws. The Dominican Republic does have strong laws against sex with minors. However, while some progress is being made in enforcing these laws, all too often scum (both foreign and Dominican individuals) get away with breaking these laws and subjecting children (16 or younger) to sexual abuse.
 
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Roberto

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Re: Tourist look for the worst in countries, WHY!

Spatially when we have Some strong people Foreigner lawyer and local defending those type of Tourist

Regards

Roberto
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: Tourist look for the worst in countries, WHY!

FYI - The age of sexual consent (male-female sex with an adult of any age) in the USA:

Hawaii - 14 years old
34 states, Washington D.C., plus the military - 16 years old
8 states - 17 years old
7 states - 18 years old

The age of sexual consent varies amongst countries around the world from 12 to 18, but most are 14-16.

Examples:

Argentina 12, Canada 14, China 14, Colombia 14, Japan 13, Mexico, 12, Nigeria 13, Spain 12, Thailand 15.

Source: <A HREF="http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm">http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm</A>

It appears that most of the world, including most of the USA, considers sex between an adult and a 16 year old, perfectly legal. I make know judgement on this, but for the life of me, I can't understand how there could be a sexual attraction to someone that is obviously a child.

Jim Hinsch
JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Joseph McCarthy

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Re: Tourist look for the worst in countries, WHY!

Jim said "It appears that most of the world, including most of the USA, considers sex between an adult and a 16 year old, perfectly legal. I make know judgement on this, but for the life of me, I can't understand how there could be a sexual attraction to someone that is obviously a child."

Oh my God, for once I agree with Jim. Let me write this date down.

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arcoiris

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Re: age of consent

I think the age of consent refers, not to age of consent to "illicit" sex, but to age at which a person can consent to a marriage! Under this age a child needs special permission to get married, but at this age a person can get married without parental consent. Age of consent rules date from much before the '"sexual revolution". Fornication is what is called sex with someone single outside of marriage, and is considered morally wrong by most cultures no matter what the age. Adultery is what sex with a married person is called and is considered illicit in most cultures at any age. Marriage is considered good, but takes some maturity and so there is the age of consent which is a measure of maturity prerequisite to getting married. There are cultures wherein a younger child can be betrothed or promised to someone, but marriage is when they are mature enough. Age of consent doesn't mean being old enough to be a prostitute either, since prostitution is considered illicit in all cultures at any age.
 
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Steven

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Remove the Rose Glasses and put down your bible

"Another expression is if you give someone enough rope they will hang themselves. I prefer the second tactic myself."

You profess to be "peace loving" and wish the best for your fellow man, but you would let someone go astray and hang themselves to satisfy your end?

"Age of consent doesn't mean being old enough to be a prostitute either, since prostitution is considered illicit in all cultures at any age. "

Good lord, your name implies you are posting from Yale University. I suggest you leave those Ivy covered hall sometime and glance at the real world. Prostitution is illegal in all cultures? Have you heard of a country called Thailand, Holland, the United States of America?

I read one of your other posts where you say we are all condemned to "hell" if we are not peace loving and follow your ideals, the others will live in comfort in "heaven"

If you are trying to promote the tourism or growth of the Republic, please stop before any person reading your esoteric, fire and brimstone messages conclude the entire country is made up of persons such as yourself
 
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Sarah

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Re: Remove the Rose Glasses and put down your bibl

You mean to say that it is not illegal in Thailand, Holland, and the United States of America?
 
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Tom

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Re: Remove the Rose Glasses and put down your bibl

Sarah

Prostituion is LEGAL in most counties of Nevada USA, parts of Amsterdam and I don't know about Thailand, but if it is not legal it certainly is not enforced

Tom
 
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Jim Hinsch

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Re: age of consent

Read the top of the site that supplied the age of consent data. It profides the following definition:

"The age shown in the chart is the age at which one person may legally consent to sexual intercourse with another person who is at least that age or older, provided that there are no ties between them (ie: one is not in a position of trust or responsibility over the other)."

Jim Hinsch
JimHinsch@CSI.COM
 
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Maurice

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Re: age of consent

HAve you been to or hear dof Denmark, The Netherlqands?

Your preachings are so sancrosect that it makes me want to puke. I don't think there is a bigger phony on this forum than you. You don't have any purpose other than to waste time by posting usless unsubstainated messages for your own use, or to tell your friends about.

You really should return to wherever you cam from
 
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ECH, M.D.

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

As per usual, Arco engages her mouth before putting her mind in gear. And she may be surrounded by all the books in the Yale library but it appears she does not read any of them or research her material.
Acro, if they can consent to marriage......it stands to reason that it also is a consent to consumate the marriage (that means sex)
I am familiar with the American Revolution, the Industrial Revolution, The War Between the States, but I am not familiar with the Sexual revolution......who won???
Check your history books in your great library Arco...you will find incidences of Kings and Crown Princes ACTUALLY MARRYING at the age of 4 or 5 and the bride is the same age. This of course was to cement an alliance but none the less...it was a valid marriage. And there is Pu Yi, the last Emperor of China who was married at 13 to TWO teenagers and had a M?nage a tois relationship and this was considered quite NORMAL in their culture(I am sure you find it appaling).BTW he also had a "page boy" on the side that was his real love
And hold on to your hat and anything else necessary but there were South Pacific Cultures studied by the famed Margaret Meade that had older boys living with younger boys "practicing for marriage" so they would know "what to do" and make good husbands.
And finally, hate to bust your bubble, cause god knows you live on a different planet than the rest of us, but PROSTITUTION IS LEGAL IN MANY COUNTRIES, (including our own State of Nevada) AND MANY CULTURES AND ETHNIC GROUPS. There was a time that when a guest visited Inuit Indians that the host offered his wife to the guest. To refuse was a great insult. This custom was also practiced among some of the Native Americans in the South West also. There are many countries that do not have the hang up regarding prostitution that some of the fanatics try to promulgate. Hell, look at the history of Hawaii before, during and after the missionaries came. Where do they (the missionaries)get the idea that half nude bodies are "sinful". The sin is not what is between the thighs. or protruding from the chest (breasts)......but between the ears!
And finally, might I invite you to visit Amsterdam, a very modern city with modern ideas. The prostitutes there sit in windows on the Damrak for the clients to observe. And in South East Asia, sex between consenting adults is just as normal as apple pie in America. There are an estimated 50 thousand female prostitutes and 10,000 + male prostitutes in the sex industry in Thailand. And so you don't jump to conclusions that the males are for the gay crowd....women engage their services as well as men. So, before you start writing a big dissertation about the subject........check it out. You are going to be surprised and you will also find that there are many, many people in this world that do not share your views about religion and morality. You are so hell bent to protect the indigineous Dominicans and their way of life.....how about these other groups.....you want to protect them also? Or is their culture so foreign to you it is not worth preserving and protecting even though it has been in existence for hundereds of years. Just some quesitons??
 
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Joseph McCarthy

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

Yes, slavery was legal too, but it doesnt mean it was right.
It bothers me when just because someone or some country has done something due to tradition, culture, or a "Modern Society" does it, it is deemed exceptable. Wrong is Wrong.

You made references to Kings and Princes and Emperors, and your comment of -
"And finally, might I invite you to visit Amsterdam, a very modern city with modern ideas. The prostitutes there sit in windows on the Damrak for the clients to observe. And in South East Asia, sex between consenting adults is just as normal as apple pie in America."

What the hell is a modern city with modern ideas.

I want to point out something that all of these have in common.
The victim or as you may put it "consenting adult" have similarities.

1. They generally under control or working for someone with power, wealth, money etc, because they themselves do not have anything.
2. the victim, generally does not have money, meaning poor. "You generally do not find too many wealthy young prostitutes, with 4 acres of land, two cars and a house maid."
3. They generally do not have a say, as you referenced a 13 year old marrying Kings or Princes...(you noticed I did not say queens or rich woman, It appears older man with control and power build an attraction of extremely young people.

My point is 9 times out of 10 if these prostitutes or consenting adults as you put it, had more options they probably would not do what they do.

Just because things are legal, does not mean its right, I know its easy to believe so, but you know and I know, especially in America, things were and are legal, and they are completely wrong. And I'm not trying to sit here and ride this high moral ground. "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, ITS A DUCK."
 
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Susanne

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

This is getting tedious and we have covered the aspect of prostitution before.

However, Arco claimed that "fornication" was considered morally wrong in most cultures. Ernest just proved her wrong. You and Arco may consider it morally wrong, but whether it is or not is something that can be disputed. It is nothing factual. If a given society allows it, it is usually because the majority of the population do not have a moral problem with it.

Regards,
Susanne
 
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arcoiris

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

The term "fornication" means that it is illicit sex. If you mean a single person having sex with another single person, then there are cultures which allow that - these cultures however don't allow every single person to sleep with every other single person. Every culture has some kind of mores governing sexual behavior. Not every culture has European style marriages. In some cultures when a single male has sex with a single female that constitutes a marriage in itself. It may not be a European Christian marriage wherein it is expected to be monogamous or forever, but it is considered a kind of marriage. I think you guys are assuming that I am a prude, which comes for a certain type of "christian" attitude. I am not a prude, though I think sex is sacred and very special, and that children are a gift from God. I understand that there are other cultures wherein the mores governing sexual behavior are different. I still consider prostitution, as in the NEtherlands, and Thailand very sad.
 
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arcoiris

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Re: age of consent

I did not see the post you are referring to. If everyone understands that to be the definition of the term then that is a valid definition and I am glad you clarified it. The definition has apparently changed since the sexual revolution. The sexual revolution is what the changes in sexual mores that took place in the '60's and '70's with the Roe vs Wade decision and availability of the Pill, and with the encouragement of women to consider being a homemaker just one of the alternative careers she could pursue. The results are that many sexual behaviors are widely considred acceptable now that in the '50's would be considered deviant.
 
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Roberto

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

I Have being in amtesrdam

the Prostitute there are prostitute fore they free wile
not because they
authorities did not take care of they educations
not because some gringo when to they small villages
and take the non educated one and bring them to Sosua/Boca Chica/Amsterdam/Madrid/Italy etc.....
promising them a lots of things, and then make some strange sycological games and get them making prostitution fore they business etc

we also have tift taking the money from people on the street
we have them in every city's of this planet
should we close ours eyes because it happening every where?

should we stop the police wen they are on pursuit of them?

is that right?

it is also right that some rich Gringos, use the calamity situations of A young Girl/Boy
to have sex with them ,and get them pregnant then live them on the street?
giving them a few dolars in return>?
would you like you kids to have sex with A adults because his/she don't have anything to eat?

Peace:)

Roberto
 
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Tom

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Re:CULTURAL DIFFERENCES

"it is also right that some rich Gringos, use the calamity situations of A young Girl/Boy
to have sex with them ,and get them pregnant then live them on the street?
giving them a few dolars in return>?
would you like you kids to have sex with A adults because his/she don't have anything to eat?

Peace:)

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Roberto

I know this sounds terrible, but I would rather my child did what they had to if it meant living or dying. Not a nice answer, but not a nice choice

Regards,

Tom
 
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