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The article in Dominican Today seems to imply that those who got the one year permit were here working - probably Hatians. Does anyone know differently? It will be interesting to see how those that received the two year visas will be handled. Probably have to wait another year to find out.
 

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The article in Dominican Today seems to imply that those who got the one year permit were here working - probably Hatians. Does anyone know differently? It will be interesting to see how those that received the two year visas will be handled. Probably have to wait another year to find out.

I got an insert in my passport that says it expires 27/07/2017, but i don't know what it entitles me to. I also says "No residente" on it.
 

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I got an insert in my passport that says it expires 27/07/2017, but i don't know what it entitles me to. I also says "No residente" on it.

One thing it entitles you to is to have the time to try and be a legal resident.
 

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Submit an employment certification

Santo Domingo.- Deputy Interior and Police minister Washington Gonzalez announced Wednesday that the renewal of ID cards for all aliens who applied for the National Plan to Regularize Foreigners starts mid-July.

He said the renewal will be for those immigrants who obtained a one-year permit.

?It?s not true that some cards are expired, as has been said. The renewal starts in July, when the first anniversary of the issue,? the official said.

Gonzalez said for the new process Interior and Police has already compiled all the data of the people who?ve been issued an ID by the Immigration Agency, where those interested should go to renew them. ?For such purposes they must submit an employment certification, since the rest of the documents were submitted during regularization.

The Plan regularized 239,000 foreigners, of which 207,000 have retrieved their documents.

Gonzalez spoke during the event, ?Migration and Citizenship, reality and Challenges,? organized by the Jesuit Migrants Network, where Border Solidarity director Benigno Toribio demanded government policies which encourage the development of migrants in an ambiance of rights.

Source: DT

June 2, 2016
 

windeguy

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In other words, regularization is like a work visa. No work means no renewal and potential deportation.
 

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According to what I posted, which of course could be wrong, you renew it along with your proof of having a job. For all intents that would make it a work permit/visa.

My thoughts,

As I understand it most 1 year validations were for those people that submitted birth certificates.

Presumably mostly Haitians.

Those that submitted passports (Expats / Gringos) were given 2 years.

For the 1 year they're probably asking about employment, to find out where they're working (potentially illegally).

I don't have the link, but I recall it reported that Immigration would be visiting places that employ workers illegally.

So now those that have submitted under the Plan, now are faced with potentially outting their employers or be denied renewal.

Presumably Immigration will be visiting these places to ensure compliance; and perhaps finding many others who didn't go in the Plan...
 

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True that the Expats I know got 2 years. For the one year people, did regularization not give them the right to work?
 

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True that the Expats I know got 2 years. For the one year people, did regularization not give them the right to work?

When I got the stamp in my passport i asked the man in the office what this stamp meant for me, and he said he had no idea, then I asked him if he had a copy of what I had to do to get my residency from that, and again he had no idea. WHether right to work or what! Nada.
Der Fish
 

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Theoretically it is not possible to be an employee (legally) with the regularization card or sticker, since an employer ask the Cedula or Visa work permit to its employees. That is why I doubt the information "For such purposes they must submit an employment certification" published in the DT

When I got the stamp in my passport i asked the man in the office what this stamp meant for me, and he said he had no idea, then I asked him if he had a copy of what I had to do to get my residency from that, and again he had no idea. WHether right to work or what! Nada.
Der Fish
 

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Theoretically it is not possible to be an employee (legally) with the regularization card or sticker, since an employer ask the Cedula or Visa work permit to its employees. That is why I doubt the information "For such purposes they must submit an employment certification" published in the DT

Perhaps we can get a good answer from the DR1 legal time about regularization and working and providing proof of a job to renew 1 year permits.
 

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Theoretically it is not possible to be an employee (legally) with the regularization card or sticker, since an employer ask the Cedula or Visa work permit to its employees. That is why I doubt the information "For such purposes they must submit an employment certification" published in the DT

Are you sure.

Last year DGM posted a number of videos in the national press on line and these videos are still viewable on the DGM website. The message is get your regularization papers and you can live and work here without worry and then move on to residency.

Check them out. Third and fourth lines.

http://www.migracion.gob.do/sitev1/videos/
 

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Are you sure.

Last year DGM posted a number of videos in the national press on line and these videos are still viewable on the DGM website. The message is get your regularization papers and you can live and work here without worry and then move on to residency.

Check them out. Third and fourth lines.

http://www.migracion.gob.do/sitev1/videos/

Thanks, I have enuff problems understanding Spanish, and haven't gotten to Kreyol at all as yet. But with a bit of Spanish in the mix I believe what you are saying is probably correct. Oops, I went back and maybe I first hit the only one in Kreyol, the others seem to be in Spanish, and are informative.
Der Fish
 
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MpJuly

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For me seem to be just promotional video (propaganda) :D to encourage haitians that work (legally employed or not, I do not know...) to regulate...nor more... but in no way I can confirm that the card or sticker allow to be employed.


Are you sure.

Last year DGM posted a number of videos in the national press on line and these videos are still viewable on the DGM website. The message is get your regularization papers and you can live and work here without worry and then move on to residency.

Check them out. Third and fourth lines.

http://www.migracion.gob.do/sitev1/videos/
 

MpJuly

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But the simpler it is to ask someone who has a business if it can hire someone with just its regularization card and no cedula.
 

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I have a business. You can hire a haitian if they are in the regularization program, but they cannot be registered with the Department of Labor (TSS). Therefore as a business you need to buy them private insurance. The TSS only accepts Cedula numbers into the online system, but cedulas were never issued. Private insurance is more expensive and there are no rules that I know about regarding how much insurance you need to buy and etc. All other labor laws apply to Haitians working for you. There is severance, minimum wage and etc. All employers should have a valid work contract to avoid possible future problems but not everyone does.
 

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I have a business. You can hire a haitian if they are in the regularization program, but they cannot be registered with the Department of Labor (TSS). Therefore as a business you need to buy them private insurance. The TSS only accepts Cedula numbers into the online system. All other labor laws apply to Haitians working for you. There is severance, minimum wage and etc. All employers should have a valid work contract to avoid future problems but not everyone does.

But they can be registered for social security according to an article in Listin Diaro today:

http://www.listindiario.com/la-repu...s-con-contratos-de-trabajo-pueden-estar-en-ss
 

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I think that is only for people that got the temporary residency under the program. I have gone over this with Guzman and an accountant Guzman works with and no one could figure out a way to register the employees in the social security system if they did not have a cedula.
 

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Thank you for the clarification

I have a business. You can hire a haitian if they are in the regularization program, but they cannot be registered with the Department of Labor (TSS). Therefore as a business you need to buy them private insurance. The TSS only accepts Cedula numbers into the online system, but cedulas were never issued. Private insurance is more expensive and there are no rules that I know about regarding how much insurance you need to buy and etc. All other labor laws apply to Haitians working for you. There is severance, minimum wage and etc. All employers should have a valid work contract to avoid possible future problems but not everyone does.