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Return to the UK
It was just a thought...... I imagined if she had a schengen visa/ european residency, then it might help for the move back to the UK.
I got married in the dr. Visited the UK embassy in STo domingo. They told me no need to declare wedding, UK recognises dr wedding certificates.
They also told/warned me that if my children ( thar we dont have ), want to be british, I had to live 2 years in the UK ( I never lived in the UK, bit in france....). They also told me that my wife had to live with me for 5 years in the UK to be entiteled to a british passport, they didnt say anything about visas or such.
2 points. This was in 2011, so maybe things change.
Also I hadnt told them my wife was also swiss as well as dominican ( when the lady took a breath, I slipped it in....).
So my swiss/dominican wife and I live in france half the year, work in switzerland and visit the UK fom time to time.
No paperwork for my wife to live in france. I live in france on a british passport.
So just thougt if brits can live and work anywhere in europe, why not bring their spouse there, get documents amd then, from there go back to the uk.
Once again, I have no idea, it was just a thought.
Your situation always confuses me.
You say your wife is Swiss/Dominican and you are a Brit but you've never lived in the UK. If your wife already has residency in Switzerland or was born there ( not sure) there is absolutely no comparison to a Dominican that has never traveled out of the DR and has married a foreigner when it comes to getting a spousal visa.
They told me at the time ( beginnig of 2011 ), that I had to have lived 2 years in the UK for my kids to be automatically british.
Back in 2000, when I was starting university, a guy who worked at the british consulate in Geneva, had told me and my parents that lots of brits born abroad often went back to the UK to study in order to get those 2 years umder the belt. He was suprised I wasnt doing that.
Seems strange, I agree, since I didnt ask to be british, I was born british. Maybe this only applies when one of the parents is british ( but if the coumtry of origin of the wife applies the same law and the country where the kid is born is not "droit du sol", ie switzerland, germany..... what natiomality is ure kid ???? Void??? ).
I never really looked into it since we are not planing kids for the time being.
Your situation always confuses me.
If your wife already has residency in Switzerland or was born there ( not sure) there is absolutely no comparison to a Dominican that has never traveled out of the DR and has married a foreigner when it comes to getting a spousal visa.
I agree, my wife travels, works..... does everything with her swiss passport.
I was just saying that after our wedding, I inquired at the french embassy ( cos I live there ), at the swiss embassy ( where we had to deposit all the stuff, my wifes side.), and at the british embassy ( cos I am british ).
That is when they explained the 2 years for kids and 5 for british passport. But I hadnt explained in detail the situation. They were talking as if my wife was dominican only.
Then when I added the swiss part, they told me I didnt need to do anything. If we wanted to live in the uk, just go and live in the uk. ( because obviously a british passport is of no more use to her than her current swiss one. ).
Wow, a confusing situation, I'm bamboozled. So you are British, does that mean born in the UK or you are British by descent?
A child born to a British parent outside of the UK can claim dual nationality, both as long as both countries allow that. I know Germany doesn't allow dual nationality. But I'm still a bit baffled by your situation.
Oh, alright, I kind of get it a little more now after reading above post!
A child born to a British parent outside of the UK can claim dual nationality, both as long as both countries allow that. I know Germany doesn't allow dual nationality. But I'm still a bit baffled by your situation.
Oh, alright, I kind of get it a little more now after reading above post!
Born in switzerland, geneva. Parents both british ( united nations civil sevants ). So I am born british.
Moved one year after birth across the border to france. U used to have a "carte d identite national for citizens of EU ", up u til say 1995.
After u didnt need any document, only ure british passport. I went to school and university in france.
I could of acquired french citizenship (bit it implied doing military service, so I declined ).
Never worked in france, always in switzerland. I have what one calls "frontalier work permit". A EU citizen,living in a country bordering switzerland, bit working in switzerland.
So yes it is a kind of original situation, but never has giving me a problem.
British passport, french driving license, swiss work permit, dr residency ( if it comes through.....)
Hows that for international citizen of the planet Earth ?????:laugh:
My wife our child and I came to live in England in early 2011. My mother sponsored my wife. Our child was automatically British as she is mine - she got a passport automatically in principle but there was a terrific amount of extra messing around to get it, mainly due to incompetence and general shoddiness of service. I did not have a job at the time and waaaay less than the pile of cash you need now - 65,000 squids?? Yikes!! (That's 100 dimes!)
If I now tried to move my family back to my home land to live like good little tax paying subjects and contribute to the general national good - well it just would never happen - impossible!
I have a polish friend who moved to the UK specifically to facilitate her Malawian husband getting a visa by some right of her being in the EU - as long as it was not her in home country - bizarre situation but many people in this position are heading to another country within the Euro-zone to work for a short period to get their non-EU spouse into Europe from where a UK visitor visa is a given.
Anyway, not to sound too gloomy but whatever else they are, the UK Border Agency are the most incompetent bunch of amoral buffoons you would ever dare worry about......
And it sucks that they are essentially forcing you to live apart from your family for at least 6 months until you qualify as a sponsor.
That's bollocks!
If I now tried to move my family back to my home land to live like good little tax paying subjects and contribute to the general national good - well it just would never happen - impossible!
I have a polish friend who moved to the UK specifically to facilitate her Malawian husband getting a visa by some right of her being in the EU - as long as it was not her in home country - bizarre situation but many people in this position are heading to another country within the Euro-zone to work for a short period to get their non-EU spouse into Europe from where a UK visitor visa is a given.
Anyway, not to sound too gloomy but whatever else they are, the UK Border Agency are the most incompetent bunch of amoral buffoons you would ever dare worry about......
And it sucks that they are essentially forcing you to live apart from your family for at least 6 months until you qualify as a sponsor.
That's bollocks!
Couldn't agree more. One extra point I am interested in is how the system was while getting your childs passport. I have had recent dealings with them and find them to be seriously ignorant and untrained. What was the whole process for you?
Please How? I have been told that i have to return to the UK and find work. This work has have a salary above 18500. Once i have worked continuously for 6 months then i can apply for her to join me.
My dad wants to be a sponsor for her so she can come with me now. He will pay all living costs and provide us with a home. But i cannot find any information to say he can do this. I have emailed the UK visa people however, i cannot get a direct answer.
My dad wants to be a sponsor for her so she can come with me now. He will pay all living costs and provide us with a home. But i cannot find any information to say he can do this. I have emailed the UK visa people however, i cannot get a direct answer.
I think we are telling you that as of 2012, you can't! You will have to be separated while you move back to the UK to secure employment. I can remember this whole mess in Feb 2012, my friend missed the cut by a week and so no third party sponsorship was allowed. This was after all the costs, English tests etc. Infact I think it might have been the waiting for the english results from the centre that cost them everything. I know he had a specialist lawyer, the works, but too late in handing in the file by the skin of his teeth.
All the frustration and logic in the world will not change how ar$e about tit this all is. But it is what it is, and it is unfortunately extremely difficult unless you yourself as husband are secure. And judging by how much stress they are under now, it is only going to get more difficult.
All the frustration and logic in the world will not change how ar$e about tit this all is. But it is what it is, and it is unfortunately extremely difficult unless you yourself as husband are secure. And judging by how much stress they are under now, it is only going to get more difficult.
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You are saying i could move to France ,Spain or any other European country with my wife at the same time. Dont i need to have a job??
But if I understood the OP correctly, ress8urces were not in the equation. Only the fact that he had to secure a job, work 6 months and earn 18 500 a year.
And of course he can hardly help being british.......
Truthfully, I dont know. U need to look into it. It was just an idea. Every time I go back to france, I dont have a job ( well I do but I sign a new contra t each time, so tecnically I do not have a job, and it is in switzerland when I do...).
I personally know 8f chinese girls who go back to spain every odd year to secure a schengen work permit, then they come back to switzerland where they are illegal, but can cross borders because of the visa schengen...... ( kind of like " me living here?? no way. Just visiting.).
sounds like resources to me.
I don't know what the big deal is. Canadians Living in the DR with their spouses have to return at some point to establish residency and our process can be as short as 4 months if the stars are all in the right place and as long as 8 to 12 months sometimes
At one time you could do a fiancee visa for 6 months to the UK. Laws change for a reason.
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Even if his father deposited ?65,000 in his bank, he still would need to show and income of ?18,700 per year for AT LEAST 6 months. We know it's going to be longer than that. Someone can not just give him ?65,000 and all is fine, doesn't work like that, of that I am 100% sure.
Even if his father deposited ?65,000 in his bank, he still would need to show and income of ?18,700 per year for AT LEAST 6 months. We know it's going to be longer than that. Someone can not just give him ?65,000 and all is fine, doesn't work like that, of that I am 100% sure.