Santiago Then and Now

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Do you know what happened this week back in 1562?
  • A strong earthquake destroys Santiago. The town is re-established on the banks of the Rio Yaque where it is located today.
  • Santiago de los Caballeros had no electricity.
  • The Government of Santiago de los Caballeros was bankrupt.
  • Almost everyone spoke Creole/Haitiano.
  • There were gun fights in the streets.
So basically, it was just like Santiago today except that all those rich, young, nubile, white, college chicks that chase after AZB had real tits.

Tom aka XR I put hardwood floors on top of my wall-to-wall carpet.
 

PICHARDO

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Santiago de Los 30 Caballeros
The city of Santiago de Los 30 Caballeros is situated on the bank of Yaque del Norte River, in the heart of the fertile Valle del Cibao. Whether founded in 1494 by Christopher Columbus (as some historians claim) or in 1495 by his brother Bartolomeo, Santiago was among the first European settlements in America and first Santiago of the New World. In 1504, 30 caballeros (gentlemen) of the Order of St. James (Santiago) moved from nearby La Isabela to Santiago, henceforth known as Santiago de los 30 Caballeros.
In 1508 King Fernando el Catolico of Spain, gives the city it's own Coat of Arms. After being destroyed by an earthquake in 1562, the city was rebuilt a few miles away, where the Arroyo (stream) Nibaje meets the Yaque; ruins of the old city are still visible in the district of San Francisco de Jacagua. Santiago survived numerous earthquakes and fires to serve repeatedly as the republic's capital. The city was looted by the pirate Fernando de la Fleur, in 1690 it was looted again but also burned by French troops settled in the western part of the island(Haiti), in 1805 Hatian troops looted and occupied the city and the island, slaying hundreds of it's residents by cutting their throats, in march 30 1844 the city was the host to one of the fiercest battles against the occupying Haitian troops, sealing the independance of the country from Haiti announced prior on the 27th of february of the same year. In 1857 Santiago revolts against the dictatorship of Bienaventura Baez and declared the City as capital of the the Dominican Republic naming General Desiderio Arias Valverde as president and declared a Liberal constitution, but the revolt was crushed by the troops of General Santana which annexed the Republic to Spain in 1861, The residents of Santiago where furious about the actions of General Santana and initiated a movement to overthrow his goverment and restore the Independance, the leaders where hunted and executed: Eugenio Perdomo,Pedro Ignacio Espaillat, Carlos de Lora, Vidal Pichardo(I'm one of his descendants, one of my brothers carries his name), Antonio Batista y el Coronel Pierret, in september of the same year santiagueros burned the city to force the spaniards that where besieged in the Fort of San Luis to flee, which they did, in september 14 1863 after many battles and persecutions. the city of Santiago rebuilt and more powerful is declared capital of the Republic with a provisioned Government presided by Jose A. Salcedo, After this Spain never again recovered a foothold in the local power struggle in the island, in July 1865 Spain ceded the Republic to the independentist Movement, after several bloody battles. In the year 1874 was founded The Amantes de la Luz y el Ateneo de Santiago Society, to teach and explain the Santiaguera Culture, in 1891 the first Daily was printed into circulation "El Dia", in 1916 Santiago is home of the General Command Post of the American Occupation forces in the Dominican Republic, after they leave the country in 1922 the third Republic period of 1924 is declared. It was during this period that the city was put under a capital public works, streets, bridges, plumbing and electricity where built to the level of that period's standarts.
Notable landmarks include the San Luis Fort, the University of the Catholic Mother and Teacher (Universidad Cat?lica Madre y Maestra; 1962), various palaces, and the Cathedral of Santiago el Mayor situated opposite the city park (Parque Duarte).

A staple of the city the monument built to commemorate the restoration of the Republic's Independance in the 1940's with 67 meters of altitude, in white marble, it has small museums in it's interior, several murals and frescos despicting the life of taino indians and other equally impressive works, it's a symbol of the city of Santiago, once named "Monumento to the peace of Trujillo" while the Dominican Dictator was in power, . It's a site that serves as a meeting destination for all Santiagueros, these are the residents of the City of Santiago, if you ever go there you'll notice something very much unique to this city, the absolute absence of any tourism aimed sites, we have none there, it's by far a tourism free city(if there ever was one), I think it's due to the fact that Santiago is home to the oldest and most traditional families in the Dom. Rep. the most prestigious and well to do merchants and industrial owners and executives make it their home, to mention one The Bermudez Family(yes the Bermudez Rum owners), and many others whom I wont mention because they don't like to be bugged too much, also it's worth mention that many of the country leaders, including most Dominican presidents, come from this region, Santiago is a city of old traditions, some are very unique to the region itself, for example it's custommary to close the business at 12:00 noon and re-open at 2:00 P.M. to resume sales and operations, that's the time in which Santiagueros have their main meal of the day, have some coffee, and a siesta before returning to work, the city comes to a letargic yet like in suspended time period, one can't hardly resist the custom oneself
The city's economy depends mainly on the production of cigarettes, rum, furniture, pharmaceuticals, soaps, leather articles, and processed foods, including cacao, milled rice, and dairy produce. Santiago is on the main highway linking Santo Domingo (85 mi [137 km]southeast) with Montecristi in the extreme northwest.
Santiago is the cradle of the Merengure Tipico, the most popular form and original Merengue of the island, called Pericos Ripiaos, these are candent fast paced Merengue tunes, it's home to one of the most dynamic Free Trade Zones in the country, and where the best nightclubs, discos, and restaurants in the country are located, it is known for it's very intense nocturnal life.


El Centro de Recreo de Santiago(Santiago Recreation Center) by the street "Benito Monci?n" is located on an extensive lot, of which a part was occupied by two houses, where one was a Bakery and residence of the Pichardo Family, and the other a house of the Widowed Pichardo Lady(My ancestors); the gallery of the house of one level that was expanded later to the two level house that at present it occupies was an elegant yet simple decorated one. It housed The Club Santiago at the same time, on which were celebrated animated and regal festivals as well as the "Arguinaldos" every Christmas season, dances of impecable dressed gentlemen and ladies and of "mamarrachos"(Masks) in seasons of carnaval and two large Dances of Salon filed thus the "Statutes" - on the August 5th, anniversary and December 31st of each year. The Arguinaldos were organized four or six weeks before Christmas. The first Saturday, many couples of ladies and young men were appointed by the elected executive in charge so that they carried it out to their own expenses and they also should leave the list of the subsequent selection of the couples that would do it on the next Saturday, and so on. These couples competed and tried to surpass in splendor and expense each previous festival. The suits of the large festivals was sometimes tuxedo for young men and long elegant night dresses for ladies, in those days very few dared show a clevage, and if so they did it discretely, although with time the clevages of the elegant life from the French parlors was accepted were naked backs gave way, they were well toned with the haute fashion of the times. The loyalty of those times was sensitive to the happiness and pain of all and supported each other in such form that when someone from the society circle or a close relative of one of them became ill or died the festivals were suspended and sorrow of three days was proclaimed. El Centro de Recreo de Santiago during the present Century had to our judgment its most brilliant splendor toward 1922 under the Presidency of the fine bardo Francisco Pereyra Hijo, Administration during which was named one of the two Institution's executive secretaries, besides becoming the boss of festivals, he organized some others parties of intellectual character. One of the most brilliant Conferences was the one in which parlors dictated Dr. Manuel Arturo Machado the attic of the notable Dominican letters, the jurist passed away a little later in his residence of the Capital, as well as the Sunday meetings and concerts of the Central Lyrical Club by Rafael Primero, and Art presentations to some of which travelled from the Capital the President of the Republic Mr. Juan Bta. Viccini Burgos and others. Those were the days in which the societies of the Capital and of Santiago de Los Caballeros came to see each other, after more than a 50 year-old separation in geography and social deal by the lack of communications until the inauguration May 6, of the Duarte Highway . But what had then greater splendor and news was the Carnaval of that year that broke the fashion of the parliamentary monarchical fiction of the countries of Europe and changed toward the style of the large Oriental festivals elegancies with the mud?jares of forms and technical arabic of the Century in its harmonic fusion of the Gothic and morisco. It was the Sultana, the Young lady Ana Julia Bonnelly, married later with the Lic. Jafet D. Hern?ndez that introduced the elegancy of the oriental royal court's splendor to the high society circles of Santiago de Los Caballeros.
 

Talldrink

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Pichardo

PICHARDO said:
Which by the way it's my VTourist account!!!

Thanks for exposing my VT Dominican Republic site!

LOL

So let me get this straight, you havent been to DR in 16 years but you have a site about tours of DR? AND on the first page it says that you LIVE In Santiago. You have no 'papers' and the site says:

REYNALDOPICHARDO's Travelogue About World. Travel experience, unbiased tips, reviews, and pictures on World.

Am I missing something??
 

PICHARDO

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Yes I do offer them my opinions because I'm a Dominican that grew in the DR, know every province of the country, traveled a lot before coming to NY in my last trip overseas and can provide for so much information many of the people in this forum couldn't even begin to imagine to say the least, apart from the point that I provide web hosting services to many Dominican business establishments from the DR, I have a server farm located in Santiago directly connected with the PUCMM systems, run multiple database solutions for clients whom do their biz in the DR, provide clients with VPN CCTV over IP worldwide from the DR providing support and logistics, I'm the source of a newly deployed "Topographic Mapping Overlay" to allow tracking of multiple services within the DR with precise accuracy, something of a next GPS G5 system, therefore I can map your dogs house within your backyard with military accuracy, nevertheless lets leave "Fido" alone and clear some air:
Why it's so hard for you to accept that what I said was the truth and it's something so simple yet so shocking to you?

Did I rationalized my situation so much that I made it too easy for me to accept and not follow on the steps of so many others as some had suggested I could had done?

Gosh! You're making me reconsider my prolonged stay here(USA) now! you're a bad influence!

The site puts my home in Santiago because it asks were you originate your tips as a home base, since I still consider myself a Santiaguero I saw no problem in that.
As for Travels I did visit many other countries before coming the states and believe me they haven't changed much since, the French still carry the bread home under their armpits, the German still serve raw cacao instead of hot cocoa, Spain's chicks don't use the shave cream the French should consider before eating their morning bread, Israeli girls still love the beach and those darn plastic chairs that stick to your tush, Venezuela it's still a danger to a single foreigner and the rest just equally they way I left it, what could had possibly had change other than the weather and the 5 pounds of pesos for one dollar exchange rate?
 
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PICHARDO said:
Yes I do offer them my opinions because I'm a Dominican that grew in the DR, know every province of the country, traveled a lot before coming to NY in my last trip overseas and can provide for so much information many of the people in this forum couldn't even begin to imagine to say the least... blah, blah, blah...

The site puts my home in Santiago because it asks were you originate your tips as a home base, since I still consider myself a Santiaguero I saw no problem in that.

Mr. Pichardo, your story has A LOT OF HOLES and that is not my fault. If I were an unsuspecting victim and read your webpage and then stumbled into your little sob story that you first posted here, I wouldnt believe a word you say in either sites!

How am I a bad influence? YOU put your life diary out (in 10 page long posts) and then you dont expect for folks to say anything? Did you forget where you are typing and where your messages go when you hit Submit?

You dont have to leave on my behalf... Who am I after all but another poster just like you?

Frankly, if your story is true, I feel bad for you that you havent seen your country in 16 years, but I guess I can get over it because you seem to have traveled the world.

Lastly, Why not add to your site that you live in NY - why b/c it will lack credibility - no? You should also add that the outlook that you bring of the DR and the rest of the wrold is 16 years old, that is of course if you are telling the truth... Que ni me quita ni me pone.
 

PICHARDO

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Talldrink said:
Mr. Pichardo, your story has A LOT OF HOLES and that is not my fault. If I were an unsuspecting victim and read your webpage and then stumbled into your little sob story that you first posted here, I wouldnt believe a word you say in either sites!

How am I a bad influence? YOU put your life diary out (in 10 page long posts) and then you dont expect for folks to say anything? Did you forget where you are typing and where your messages go when you hit Submit?

You dont have to leave on my behalf... Who am I after all but another poster just like you?

Frankly, if your story is true, I feel bad for you that you havent seen your country in 16 years, but I guess I can get over it because you seem to have traveled the world.

Lastly, Why not add to your site that you live in NY - why b/c it will lack credibility - no? You should also add that the outlook that you bring of the DR and the rest of the wrold is 16 years old, that is of course if you are telling the truth... Que ni me quita ni me pone.


LOL

First if you visit that site the VTourist and read on my New York travel page, gasp!!! you'll read that I'm living in ny, the outlook I have of the DR it's the actual one since I provide for many members of my family, and you have to know the price of everything to keep on top of the situation, like the gas etc, yet I do miss walking the streets and being there myself, I traveled a lot because if you read my posts in the VTourist you could find out my father was a Mercedes Benz sales agent and back then he had to attend many trainings and shipping issues overseas(lucky for me) and I had the opportunity to experience many cultures and people in my young years, later I did get to travel here to NY and fate had the best of me, yet I never intended the posting of my experiences here in NY to be a point of sobbing but that many of you living or otherwise visiting the DR can better understand that life in the DR it's more than just Puerto Plata's nice beaches and such, sometimes it's good to know the other side of the coin, what better way to know a people than to understand the inner workings of it's society?

When I said you're a bad influence I was being sarcastic not critic! LOL

Your comments are welcomed and I obligue!
 

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PICHARDO said:
LOL

First if you visit that site the VTourist and read on my New York travel page, gasp!!! you'll read....

No thanks, Im good. Dont really have time (or care about you) to do all that reading. Anywho, nice pictures and a good history overlook...