Quisqueya said:
I do understand your fustration regarding illegal immigration of only haitians
Frustration regarding illegal migration, period.
I don't care if the illegals are Haitians, Cubans, Colombians, you name it (and all three have relatively large numbers of illegals here, Colombians even need a Visa to come now!).
It's not my fault that most illegals are Haitians, but all illegals I put in the same basket.
Quisqueya said:
to the DR but you have to ask yourself...if these illegal haitians were not here who would do all the work dominincans don't want to do.
Much of the works illegals do can be mechanized, such as cutting cane and the sort.
Remember, we got industries here that employ 5 people to do something that normally would take only one person to do, why? The price of labor is very cheap and the lower the price goes depends on the supply.
You know this...
I always wonder why Dominicans don't apply for coffee picking here, but in Puerto Rico the people picking coffee are, no it can't be, Dominicans!!
Hmm...
Why would Dominicans pick coffee in PR, if they don't want to do that here?
Well, the answer is simple, picking coffee in Puerto Rico pays more than picking coffee in DR and people always follow the money, so please stop saying Dominicans don't want to do those jobs.
Everybody will do anything, for a price...
Quisqueya said:
Again, its the businesses that are inticing illegal haitians to come because they will pay them less.
The bulk of the perpetrators for illegal migration is the sugar industry and that industry is on its way out of existence.
Where will all those Haitian braceros go? What will happen to the wages in the other sectors once those braceros begin to flood the other sectors, which many are already flooded with cheap illegal labor?
Quisqueya said:
hopefully the DR-CAFTA setting shop in haiti will lure the illegals to come back on their own turf.
Not at all, every economic agreement done all over the world benefits those involved in the agreement and those countries that trade with those involved in the agreement.
But, the biggest beneficiaries are those involved, not those benefiting indirectly.
The DR is the country that has benefited the most from the Caribbean Basin Economic Initiative agreement signed between the United States and several Caribbean nations. This initiative allows Dominican products to enter the US duty free and this agreement has been around for a few decades already.
The DR benefited the most from all Caribbean countries as has been proven in study after study of this, and so too has Haiti benefited through economic trade to the DR. But, has that changed the tide of illegal migration?
Look around, the answer is obvious...
Quisqueya said:
There is a middle and upper class haitian community in the DR that contributes to the dominican society and will not tolerate the extremist groups who are really talking out of thier arse..
Nobody is talking about these Haitians, these are actually encouraged to move to this country. We need more educated, economically heeled people.
You know this very well and you know very well that when people talk about legal Haitians, they are referring to those legal here and poor, in addition to every single Haitian who is here illegal, but even high income Haitians who are here illegally are not counted in the same basket as those who are poor and illegal.
You know this very well, especially if you are of the well to do of Haitians with family members here, so please, stop playing politics.
Quisqueya said:
I agree that it does stigmatize the haitians that are in the DR legally but I dont think its that significant.....
It is for those Haitians who are here legally and are poor at the sametime.
Quisqueya said:
Nals, no disrespect but why do we have to see what Washington have to say?
Because what an ambassador of any country says almost always is different from what the officials of their respective countries say of any issue.
Hertell can say anything he wants in attempts of pleasing the locals, if Washington says something else regarding this issue, guess what, Washington wins and Hertell would have to come up with a way of blending what he previously said with what Washington declares.
Thus, let's see what Washington has to say about this situation.
Quisqueya said:
What does Uncle Sam have to always be the arbitator...This is the same thing Pres. Chavez was talking about..stop being their lap dog...
I was referring to Hertell's recent comment on the US interest in helping the DR control the illegal migration flow.
Thus, my comment on let's wait and see what Washington has to say about this as oppose to what Hertell said on a meeting sorrounded by Dominicans.
Let's the see the correlation between the two messages.
-NAL