she says shes pregnant

[AZB]

I think you have little to worry about if you are just coming for vacation. How would she even know you were there?

My bigger question is how can this many of you have slept with these women without using protection??? And people talk about Dominicans being uneducated, etc. and that is why AIDS is spreading. Shocking!

let me give you a secret. When guys are on vacation, drinking cuba libres under palm trees and being hugged by a young girl, they are really not thinking of AIDS and other terrible consequences. Their worries start when they are heading back to their countries, thinking "what the hell I was thinking about when i was with her without protection...". hahahaha. too late.
AZB

 

[Fiesta Mama]

let me give you a secret. When guys are on vacation, drinking cuba libres under palm trees and being hugged by a young girl, they are really not thinking of AIDS and other terrible consequences. Their worries start when they are heading back to their countries, thinking "what the hell I was thinking about when i was with her without protection...". hahahaha. too late.
AZB

Yes, I agree but a better plan would be to assume you will sleep with someone and have some condoms handy.

 

[AZB]

Yes, I agree but a better plan would be to assume you will sleep with someone and have some condoms handy.

i agree with you 100%. If i would sleep with a sosua or boca chica chick, whom, I met in a bar, I would certainly take my precautions in order to not have a baby with her. many guys just lose their common sense and then cry later. This happens to many guys. This is why I laugh off at people who give advice to others on dangers of sexual diseases yet when you see them in sosua bars, they act no different from the rest.
I have a dominican friend who always says he uses condoms yet he had to pay for 3 abortion in the past 2 yrs. At least his girls were not from the streets but even then he was so afraid to deal with it. I had to help him out.
I agree, people should use more common sense and protect themselves when having sex with girls they don't care about. I would hate to have a baby with a girl who goes around the block with all the incoming tourists. This is why I date rather clean girls from good families. If by any chance she gets pregnant, I am prepared to be with her and feel honorable at the same time.
AZB

 

[rellosk]

Just let her sit and, bark at the moon. She can do nothing. No money, no power, have no more contact with her. Done deal.

Not according to the prior post.

It will be interesting to hear what the experts say.

 

[laurajane]

Stop trying to spread the Aids Hysteria, we had that thread a few months ago and to fill you in,it is almost impossible for a male to contract HIV from normal Heterosexual contact. Aids is not contracted from HIV either, So you need to stop the hysteria or start another thread and we can debate it all over again. Some of us don't like condoms and thats that.

I have heard many men feel this way and each to their own, but you are presuming we were referring to you catching Hiv from your partner, but do you think men who obviously have multiple partners should not think they they infact could be passing on a STD to the woman.

It is true that men contracting HIV from a female partner is at less risk but no where near impossible.

http://http://www.avert.org/usastatg.htm

Anyway seems this thread is really about pregnancy i should not go on, but i thought it was interesting.

As for the pregancy dilema i think most of the advice you have been given is spot on and call her bluff but at the same time if it is the truth, then step-up!

 

[laurapasinifan]

i agree with you 100%. If i would sleep with a sosua or boca chica chick, whom, I met in a bar, I would certainly take my precautions in order to not have a baby with her. many guys just lose their common sense and then cry later. This happens to many guys. This is why I laugh off at people who give advice to others on dangers of sexual diseases yet when you see them in sosua bars, they act no different from the rest.
I have a dominican friend who always says he uses condoms yet he had to pay for 3 abortion in the past 2 yrs. At least his girls were not from the streets but even then he was so afraid to deal with it. I had to help him out.
I agree, people should use more common sense and protect themselves when having sex with girls they don't care about. I would hate to have a baby with a girl who goes around the block with all the incoming tourists. This is why I date rather clean girls from good families. If by any chance she gets pregnant, I am prepared to be with her and feel honorable at the same time.
AZB

there isnt really a good reason not to use a condom in Sosua..they have a pharmacy that has a little opening in the steel cage doors that you can buy stuff 24 hours.

so if you need a condom at 4:30 am you can drive there tell the person working what you need you pay them through the little openiong and they give you want you need.

dont ask me how i know this ha ha

bad bad bob

ps why dont those girls have them in their purse??

 

[laurajane]

I do agree that woman should take more responsibility also, You are crazy if you let a man you dont know or come to that even one you do know not wear a condom.

Also many women here do not take steps to avoid pregnancy and then continue to moan, have abortions, or tap up some guy (not totally innocent) for a lifes worth of child maintenence.

I was talking to a young girl of 16 the other day, a neice of my husbands who already has one 2 year old, has had one abortion and is now pregnant again. She is blaming everyone but herself, I said "why dont you take the depo provera injection once every three months for 500 pesos if you are hell bent on sleeping around", she said "it is too expensive" to which i replied "well its a hell of alot cheaper than a child or an abortion, and if you are not mature enough to take precautions then you are not mature enough to be having sex"

I am not excusing the men at all, but if a child is considered equal responsibility of both involved then so should the sexual act!

If a woman you have only just met is not insistant that men wear a condom, my guess is she really is not someone a man wants to be messing around with...uuurrrggghhh!

 

[pedrochemical]

"It is true that men contracting HIV from a female partner is at less risk but no where near impossible."

www.avert.org/usastatg.htm



Where on this website does it refer to the amount of MEN catching HIV from WOMEN through regular heterosexual activity? It mentions the percentage of cases transmitted through heterosexual activity in general but does not say whether the infected people were men or women.

Please help me out here as my internet connection is terrible at the moment.
I have a very good reason for asking this question which I will share if you help me out with this website.

Thanks in advance

Pedro....

 

[MikeFisher]

I do agree that woman should take more responsibility also, You are crazy if you let a man you dont know or come to that even one you do know not wear a condom.

Also many women here do not take steps to avoid pregnancy and then continue to moan, have abortions, or tap up some guy (not totally innocent) for a lifes worth of child maintenence.

I was talking to a young girl of 16 the other day, a neice of my husbands who already has one 2 year old, has had one abortion and is now pregnant again. She is blaming everyone but herself, I said "why dont you take the depo provera injection once every three months for 500 pesos if you are hell bent on sleeping around", she said "it is too expensive" to which i replied "well its a hell of alot cheaper than a child or an abortion, and if you are not mature enough to take precautions then you are not mature enough to be having sex"

I am not excusing the men at all, but if a child is considered equal responsibility of both involved then so should the sexual act!

If a woman you have only just met is not insistant that men wear a condom, my guess is she really is not someone a man wants to be messing around with...uuurrrggghhh!

completely agree.
i don't like condoms,
but i know the gals where i don't use 'em,
with a new chick in town i take the half fun and use that rubber.
Mike

 

[sylindr]

dna test not too expensive

DNA tests are pretty expensive, better have her pay for it if she's so sure its yours.

It cost $475 usd....which is not bad considering the cost of raising a child

 

[SantiagoDR]

Just let her sit and, bark at the moon. She can do nothing. No money, no power, have no more contact with her. Done deal.

This is pure BS.

My sister-in-law was dating a man who said he wanted to have children. After getting her pregnant, he denied all responsibility and left the country.

On his return he was greeted by the authorities.

She is poor and not working, but the courts here in the DR protect the woman. She got him when he returned to the DR and the court ordered him to take the test. He was found to be the father and ordered to pay. He had two different lawyers, but still lost. Claimed the DNA test was rigged. The answer he got was that the test was sent to the U.S. for verification, not done here.

Bottom Line:

They can get you if you come back into the country!
Again, she has NO MONEY or CONNECTIONS, but got it done.
When it comes to the women here, the courts are there to help them.

Another example from years ago:

Some friends son was put in jail because a girl claimed he got her pregnant. After giving my friends a loan, they paid 15,000 pesos to the family to get their son out of jail.


Don - SantiagoDR

 

[sammystorm19]

I have to agree with Santiago. A friend of mine was just thrown in jail in Puerto Plata for not owning up to being the father. The mother doesn't have any money but she has lots of power when she is the one that had the baby.

The tests proved that he was the father and since he wasn't paying the money that he was suppose to, the cops closed his shop and now he is making new friends in the jail.

So money or no money, the mother does have the rights to collect money that is owed to her.

Bottom line is to get the DNA test done or for gods sake wear a condom!!!!

Cheers
Erin

 

[MikeFisher]

and the courts assist the mother/pregnant woman unless the "father" can proof something else.
Mike

 

[Berzin]

If a woman you have only just met is not insistent that men wear a condom, my guess is she really is not someone a man wants to be messing around with...uuurrrggghhh!

She is EXACTLY the type of women a tourist would want to mess around with. As for the condom issue, that is totally up to the man-its' HIS decision and if his partner doesn't mind, then everything is "chevere".

But the problem is two-fold. These guys fall in love with a hooker and give them all their information-home and email address, home, work and cell numbers and when they are coming back-everything except their social security numbers.

A Dominican would laugh in the chica's face and keep walking, whether it's his kid or not and the chica can't do a thing about it.

But these chicas know they can play that game with a tourist. They know these guys are easy to lay a guilt trip on.

So the hapless tourist is home lying awake with visions of his child sleeping in a corrugated tin-roof shack with no indoor plumbing, surrounded by putas and tigres.

Meanwhile the chica is sucking down Presidentes at the local colmado or in Classicos' Disco in Sosua looking for the next "cliente".

As for "manning up" and taking responsibility, yes. That is the classic western guilt trip response. But these chicas will have a kid and figure out how to take care of it later and they don't care about the consequences.

And paying child support will not guarantee that the child will be well-taken care of. The money will be spent on her chulo, her self and her friends first. And if there is any left she'll buy a couple of platanos and some sugar water to feed your kid for a week.

Besides, you could send enough money to have the kid enrolled in the Carol Morgan School in Santo Domingo and it will not change a thing in the kids' life.

He will be raised to be a tigre, taught by his mother to hassle and scam you for money at every opportunity until you get so sick of both of them that you eventually will have no choice but to disown them both.

Better off just wearing a condom, don't you think?

 

[catcherintherye]

I agree with Santiago, Sammystorm, and Mike.

As I said, if you are in doubt, get a lawyer and do the tests. As these guys say, if you are responsible then pay the price. It is the right thing to do anyway. It doesn't matter how poor or powerless a person is, a father should take responsibility.

Moreover, while it is fine, good, and necessary to point out the various tricks used by the women involved, the same type of stories are being told in the reverse by Dominicanas who have been left with a baby by a gringo.

The animosity that is created, and the bad name that is left behind does tremendous damage to everyone who travels to the DR, and does a particular disservice to those who would like to make the DR their home.

 

[Hillbilly]

I saw an announcement in the paper for DNA exams for less than RD$10,000.

Be worth it to find out.

HB

 

[MikeFisher]

I saw an announcement in the paper for DNA exams for less than RD$10,000.

Be worth it to find out.

HB

right on that HB.
and it doesn't matter the test costs a 200 or 500 bucks.
the guys have sex with chicks they don't know anything about without any protection, so they should know there 'can' come a bill afterwards, and in many cases the price for stu.. would be much higher than just a couple hundred bucks for a test.

David,
absolutely agree to that,
if a guy is the father of a child he should have the balls to take the responsibility for his actions.
at least the chick says he had enough balls to make her pregnant. after an 'accident' it comes up if they are real man's balls.
Mike

 

[rubio_higuey]

My bigger question is how can this many of you have slept with these women without using protection??? And people talk about Dominicans being uneducated, etc. and that is why AIDS is spreading. Shocking!

I completely agree!!! I don't do it otherwise (w/o) until I am married to a women by law, have certain degree of control over what she's doing, and I WANT a child. So far, the first and third condition has never been met, so .... no way to do it "a los locos".

 

[rubio_higuey]

Stop trying to spread the Aids Hysteria, we had that thread a few months ago and to fill you in,it is almost impossible for a male to contract HIV from normal Heterosexual contact. Aids is not contracted from HIV either, So you need to stop the hysteria or start another thread and we can debate it all over again. Some of us don't like condoms and thats that.

OK, if that's what you think... just go ahead... and keep doing what ya doing. Why wouldn't lots of Germans that went to Thailand in the 90's to have "sex a los locos" agree with you?

 

[Robert]

You can see who lives here and who doesn't by this thread

If you have no plan in coming back, then I guess it's case closed.

If you plan on coming back, tell her that you will get the baby DNA tested when it's born. It will be a done by a clinic of your choice etc.
Not by her cousin who works at a clinic and can get a good price

It most cases the girl will bail, if not, go through the motions above.

Whatever you do, make sure it's on your terms. As soon as they see one ounce of weakness, your dead. Her and the system will tear you apart here.

This thread is not about HIV or condoms, anymore posts with these words in any form, will be removed, so don't bother.